News Chinese CPUs are closing the gap on AMD — next-gen Zhaoxin chips feature 96 cores, 12-channel DDR5 memory, and 128 PCIe 5.0 Lanes

[Admin]

Zhaoxin has announced the new KaiXian KX-7000N and Kaisheng KH-50000 processors at the World Artificial Intelligence Conference 2025.

Chinese CPUs are closing the gap on AMD — next-gen Zhaoxin chips feature 96 cores, 12-channel DDR5 memory, and 128 PCIe 5.0 Lanes : Read more

 

[Joshua Thornton]

Even though it's all using stolen technology and IP, their progress is impressive.

 

[bcountry71]

It's one thing to start from scratch and build up the tech from nothing but communist china has pulled off the biggest tech theft in the history of mankind and it's mostly because of the western nations lust for short term profits from cheap labor but will now end up destroying the western companies because of it.

 

[93QSD5]

It's one thing to start from scratch and build up the tech from nothing but communist china has pulled off the biggest tech theft in the history of mankind and it's mostly because of the western nations lust for short term profits from cheap labor but will now end up destroying the western companies because of it.

They destroy western markets by creating the illusion of competition to flood selection (BKK Electronics), and lower prices (even below break-even values) to the point where western counter parts have either no chance or ruin themselves financially in the long run (while creating shiitier products of course).

I'm surprised, that people are only just now learning about this.

 

[gunish_d]

I agree it may be tech theft, but how many empires do we need to go back to understand how resources have exchanged empires and hands over time.

We have taken from the east in other ways, they have taken intellectual property (although I don't agree with it) but it's the way it always has been.

One thing that I can see when the Chinese chips do take off (if they actually do), the west will play the chinese tech down by saying there are security concerns etc.

 

[SkyBill40]

The more companies like Nvidia and AMD keep selling them (or "licensing") tech, the faster the Chinese will reverse engineer or outright steal it and develop their own based on it. Profits aren't everything in business, but greed is the name of the game in those circles.

Gordon Gekko, if he were a real person, would be beamingly proud.

 

[nookoool]

Low core benchmarks but huge core/thread density. Fine for web and app servers. China Unicom recently had a 1 billion dollar server tender. 90% went to domestic chinese cpu. This will likely be the future trend on the server side. More revenue means more RnD and the cycle will continue.

 

[closs.sebastien]

Airbus authorized a "knowledge sharing" and built a shared fab in china, to be allowed to sell its planes to china.
Yet, a chinese company "comac" sell a new plane, 100% chinese, which is very very very similar to ... an airbus.
And they want to sell it, not only to chinese companies, but of course, to the rest of the world.
We - european-, and more generally west-countries, are just naive.. and now, we start to see the results.

 

[Rob1C]

Our short term gain: Saved a buck.
Our long term loss: Lost a few bucks, and jobs; other things such as military advantage.

Their long term and irreversible loss: Pollution and death.

 

[abufrejoval]

They destroy western markets by creating the illusion of competition to flood selection (BKK Electronics), and lower prices (even below break-even values) to the point where western counter parts have either no chance or ruin themselves financially in the long run (while creating shiitier products of course).

Such tactics aren't uniquely Chinese.

IBM used them for mainframes, the Japanese used them for DRAM, and there are probably thousands of other markets where it's been done before, e.g. Rockefeller with SOHIO.

It's never nice to be on the receiving end of dirty tricks.

 

[Moores_Ghost]

Tariffs will not hold back China forever.
That said that chip is ARM.
They WILL develop an Nvidia killer and simply not sell it to anyone else for a time.
Some know this and decided to try and slow their process with tariffs instead of trying to work together for the entire planet, not just one country.
Why so few see this I do not know.
There is no stopping the Chinese Juggernaut. So why not benefit alongside them? The only reason left is human rights. If over a billion Chinese haven't stormed their military to proclaim this, why are we still believing it? We are taught all are equal and we can all get along, except the Chinese. North Korea I fully understand and Russia is lost with Putin but China? They have the ability to be one of our biggest allies. They lend us money. They buy our products even with tariffs that are doing way more to hurt us than them. Times up now. Time to politely ask China to take a seat at our table. Remember, you have to ask twice and allow them to decline once if you know your etiquette.

 

[abufrejoval]

Tariffs will not hold back China forever.
That said that chip is ARM.
They WILL develop an Nvidia killer and simply not sell it to anyone else for a time.
Some know this and decided to try and slow their process with tariffs instead of trying to work together for the entire planet, not just one country.
Why so few see this I do not know.
There is no stopping the Chinese Juggernaut. So why not benefit alongside them? The only reason left is human rights. If over a billion Chinese haven't stormed their military to proclaim this, why are we still believing it? We are taught all are equal and we can all get along, except the Chinese. North Korea I fully understand and Russia is lost with Putin but China? They have the ability to be one of our biggest allies. They lend us money. They buy our products even with tariffs that are doing way more to hurt us than them. Times up now. Time to politely ask China to take a seat at our table. Remember, you have to ask twice and allow them to decline once if you know your etiquette.

Let's skip the political stuff...

But I'm not sure it's going to be ARM, because China doesn't want anyone's fat fingers in their cookie jar, but their own.

So they are betting on RISC-V, ARM is just a stepping stone, unless they choose to simply ignore ARM intellectual property rights and declare their local ARM subsidiary the only rightful owner of that IP.