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How does it work? Some items turn up pink, but I can't find what
it means. Should I delete them? My indispensable Flamingo of
Decay turns up red. "Overrides game rules", it says. Oh, yes 🙂

T.
 
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The Flamingo of Decay allows you to
have a great many friends -- if you place
more than 1, you need only interact with
those other Sims that you *want* to, and
so you can have many more friends than
normal.

You'll find that it has problems if any Sim
on the lot has more than 110 (wow!)
acquaintances. Look for a revised version
at http://www.livin-it-up.net -- it may already
be on the site or it may be there in a day
or two.

The installer, I don't know about.
 
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It took me a while too, but I think I understand it now. Red items are game
hacks of some form. They over-write or supersede some Maxis-shipped code.
Pink items are third-party objects of which two (or more, I suppose) share
the same 'MD5'

If you wait until the program has finished loading and checking the folder
(you will know when this is so because the folder option will no longer be
greyed out), then you can sort by the MD5 and the related pink items will be
adjacent. I then tend to manually delete the mentioned file as I don't quite
understand how the program goes about turning items on and off.

MM



"Taemon" <Taemon@zonnet.nl> wrote in message
news:363r4tF4u489mU1@individual.net...
> How does it work? Some items turn up pink, but I can't find what
> it means. Should I delete them? My indispensable Flamingo of
> Decay turns up red. "Overrides game rules", it says. Oh, yes 🙂
>
> T.
>
>
 
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Madame Mim wrote:

> It took me a while too, but I think I understand it now.
> Red items are game hacks of some form. They over-write or
> supersede some Maxis-shipped code. Pink items are
> third-party objects of which two (or more, I suppose)
> share the same 'MD5'

Uhm. That a bad thing?

> If you wait until the program has finished loading and
> checking the folder (you will know when this is so
> because the folder option will no longer be greyed out),
> then you can sort by the MD5 and the related pink items
> will be adjacent. I then tend to manually delete the
> mentioned file as I don't quite understand how the
> program goes about turning items on and off.

I'm not deleting my Flamingo of Decay, thank you very much 🙂

T.
 
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"Taemon" <Taemon@zonnet.nl> wrote in message
news:364iorF4t1rv9U1@individual.net...
> Madame Mim wrote:
>
> > It took me a while too, but I think I understand it now.
> > Red items are game hacks of some form. They over-write or
> > supersede some Maxis-shipped code. Pink items are
> > third-party objects of which two (or more, I suppose)
> > share the same 'MD5'
>
> Uhm. That a bad thing?

Yep.

> > If you wait until the program has finished loading and
> > checking the folder (you will know when this is so
> > because the folder option will no longer be greyed out),
> > then you can sort by the MD5 and the related pink items
> > will be adjacent. I then tend to manually delete the
> > mentioned file as I don't quite understand how the
> > program goes about turning items on and off.
>
> I'm not deleting my Flamingo of Decay, thank you very much 🙂

:') But have you looked to see what is conflicting with your flamingo of
decay? Maybe you'd be willing to delete it??

> T.

MM
 
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Madame Mim wrote:

> "Taemon" <Taemon@zonnet.nl> wrote in message
> news:364iorF4t1rv9U1@individual.net...
> > Madame Mim wrote:
> > > It took me a while too, but I think I understand it
> > > now. Red items are game hacks of some form. They
> > > over-write or supersede some Maxis-shipped code. Pink
> > > items are third-party objects of which two (or more,
> > > I suppose) share the same 'MD5'
> > Uhm. That a bad thing?
> Yep.

And why, pray tell? What is MD5, anyway?

> > I'm not deleting my Flamingo of Decay, thank you very
> > much 🙂
> :') But have you looked to see what is conflicting with
> your flamingo of decay? Maybe you'd be willing to delete
> it??

I don't know. There is only one red file, which is the flamingo.
How can I see this?

Thanks!

T.
 
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On Mon, 31 Jan 2005, Taemon wrote:
> And why, pray tell? What is MD5, anyway?

A decent explanation of MD5 checksums can be found here:

http://www.oberon.ethz.ch/ethoberon/defs/MD5.Def.html

Basically, it's a digital fingerprint of the file - alter the contents of
a file without calculating a new fingerprint, you'll get notifications that
the file's been messed with when it's checked by another program. (which
knows what to expect, in the case of programs checking its own contents, or
by doing the calculations to figure out the MD5 itself - unless a program is
recompiled/recompressed, the MD5 won't match an altered file)

--
"...there are hardly any excesses of the most crazed psychopath that cannot
easily be duplicated by a normal, kindly family man who just comes into
work every day and has a job to do." [Terry Pratchett, "Small Gods"]
http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/~aa343/index.html
 
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"Taemon" <Taemon@zonnet.nl> wrote in message
news:36792oF4u6cd3U1@individual.net...
> Madame Mim wrote:
>
> > "Taemon" <Taemon@zonnet.nl> wrote in message
> > news:364iorF4t1rv9U1@individual.net...
> > > Madame Mim wrote:
> > > > It took me a while too, but I think I understand it
> > > > now. Red items are game hacks of some form. They
> > > > over-write or supersede some Maxis-shipped code. Pink
> > > > items are third-party objects of which two (or more,
> > > > I suppose) share the same 'MD5'
> > > Uhm. That a bad thing?
> > Yep.
>
> And why, pray tell? What is MD5, anyway?

Something to do with GUID (I think) - when they are the same the objects
conflict.

> > > I'm not deleting my Flamingo of Decay, thank you very
> > > much 🙂
> > :') But have you looked to see what is conflicting with
> > your flamingo of decay? Maybe you'd be willing to delete
> > it??
>
> I don't know. There is only one red file, which is the flamingo.
> How can I see this?
>
> Thanks!
>
> T.

Oopsy, my mistake. Pink is bad. Red is a hack. I said this before but I must
have not been clear (I know I can talk in circles). Your flamingo of decay
is red because it makes friends for you (or slows down decay of
friendships). It hacks the friendship ratings (in some way) and so the
program makes it red (must be so you can find and remove unwanted hacks). As
for how you'd find the conflicting MD5 - if you click on the MD5 heading all
the objects will be sorted by their MD5's and so two _pink_ (conflicting)
objects would be next to each other, allowing you to choose which one you
would keep.

MM
 
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Madame Mim wrote:

> Oopsy, my mistake. Pink is bad. Red is a hack. I said
> this before but I must have not been clear (I know I can
> talk in circles). Your flamingo of decay is red because
> it makes friends for you (or slows down decay of
> friendships). It hacks the friendship ratings (in some
> way) and so the program makes it red (must be so you can
> find and remove unwanted hacks). As for how you'd find
> the conflicting MD5 - if you click on the MD5 heading all
> the objects will be sorted by their MD5's and so two
> _pink_ (conflicting) objects would be next to each other,
> allowing you to choose which one you would keep.

Ah! Now I see. Yes, there were two pink items. But what happens
if I delete an item (say, an eye colour) which is in the game?

T.
 
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They revert to a Maxis default eye colour

MM]
"Taemon" <Taemon@zonnet.nl> wrote in message
news:369uvfF4rbbqrU1@individual.net...
> Madame Mim wrote:
>
> > Oopsy, my mistake. Pink is bad. Red is a hack. I said
> > this before but I must have not been clear (I know I can
> > talk in circles). Your flamingo of decay is red because
> > it makes friends for you (or slows down decay of
> > friendships). It hacks the friendship ratings (in some
> > way) and so the program makes it red (must be so you can
> > find and remove unwanted hacks). As for how you'd find
> > the conflicting MD5 - if you click on the MD5 heading all
> > the objects will be sorted by their MD5's and so two
> > _pink_ (conflicting) objects would be next to each other,
> > allowing you to choose which one you would keep.
>
> Ah! Now I see. Yes, there were two pink items. But what happens
> if I delete an item (say, an eye colour) which is in the game?
>
> T.
>
>
 
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No they don't if your sim is already in a family and in the game - at least
I've not found that with the clothes. I tried to delete some clothing which
I decided I didn't like. However, one of my sims was wearing it at the
time. I expected that she would appear wearing a different outfit but she
didn't - she was still wearing the outfit I'd deleted. Because the
families/lots are package files, like everything else, it seems to have
retained a copy of the clothes stored in that file (rather than the
Downloads folder where I'd deleted it). It seems to me to be the same issue
they're having at the exchange where houses come with a whole lot of
additional objects and hacks - not just the stuff in the house but also
everything the uploader has in their game. Maxis really didn't think this
one through. It's going to make it very difficult to get rid of stuff once
it's actually in your game.

Best wishes
Maxon

"Madame Mim" <mad.mim@S.P.A.M.bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:ufULd.144367$K7.115879@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> They revert to a Maxis default eye colour
>
> MM]
> "Taemon" <Taemon@zonnet.nl> wrote in message
> news:369uvfF4rbbqrU1@individual.net...
> > Madame Mim wrote:
> >
> > > Oopsy, my mistake. Pink is bad. Red is a hack. I said
> > > this before but I must have not been clear (I know I can
> > > talk in circles). Your flamingo of decay is red because
> > > it makes friends for you (or slows down decay of
> > > friendships). It hacks the friendship ratings (in some
> > > way) and so the program makes it red (must be so you can
> > > find and remove unwanted hacks). As for how you'd find
> > > the conflicting MD5 - if you click on the MD5 heading all
> > > the objects will be sorted by their MD5's and so two
> > > _pink_ (conflicting) objects would be next to each other,
> > > allowing you to choose which one you would keep.
> >
> > Ah! Now I see. Yes, there were two pink items. But what happens
> > if I delete an item (say, an eye colour) which is in the game?
> >
> > T.
> >
> >
>
>
 
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