Commonest question here, is this a good build?

[moedaff]

Hey guys

So I linked my build below.
I am trying to make a gaming PC that can run most games at the highest setting and get me 60fps or more. I will be playing at 1080p.
Also, do you think it is wise to get something like the rx580 or should I wait till new gen comes up.

thanks all

Build:
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Gkd8xG

 

[kanewolf]

You could be limited by the single DIMM memory. You could get a B350 motherboard that won't boot because a BIOS update is required. It is getting less likely, but still possible. Check the motherboard box for a sticker or logo that says it is series 2 compatible. A B450 motherboard won't have that risk.

 

[moedaff]

You could be limited by the single DIMM memory. You could get a B350 motherboard that won't boot because a BIOS update is required. It is getting less likely, but still possible. Check the motherboard box for a sticker or logo that says it is series 2 compatible. A B450 motherboard won't have that risk.

Thank you for your reply.
Sorry, I am a bit of a newbie. For the DIMM memory is it better to go for 4gbx2 or you mean get 8x2gb. The reason I chose one, for now, is because of the budget.
The mobo I know what you mean, I might just go for B450 actually.

Thanks Again.

 

[kanewolf]

2x4GB with provide better performance than 1x8GB. 2x8GB will provide the same performance and give you memory capacity for the future.

 

[moedaff]

2x4GB with provide better performance than 1x8GB. 2x8GB will provide the same performance and give you memory capacity for the future.

Thanks for the reply.
This is the updated build https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/zDjjq4.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

2x4GB with provide better performance than 1x8GB. 2x8GB will provide the same performance and give you memory capacity for the future.

Thanks for the reply.
This is the updated build https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/zDjjq4.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor (£142.48 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI - B450-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard (£85.97 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£74.16 @ Technextday)
Storage: Kingston - A400 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£33.54 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX 580 8GB ARMOR OC Video Card (£229.97 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Corsair - Carbide SPEC-04 (Black/Gray) ATX Mid Tower Case (£44.39 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£65.47 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £675.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-28 17:08 BST+0100

Slightly better PSU, roughly the same price. Couldn't find the same case though.

 

[pistolpete69]

I'd recommend going for 2666mhz as a minimum for ram if this is a gaming build, Ryzen scales well with faster RAM unlike Intel builds. Don't pay too much for fastest, swaggiest, RGB ram, but if its only say an extra $20-30 to get 8gbs of 3000 mhz or something I would definitely do so.

Also like mentioned, going with 2x4gb and then upgrading to 4x4gb down the line is a better bet than starting with 1x8gb


Edit:
Here's 2 x 4gb @ 3000 mhz added to the build, and I think it's cheaper than what you had in there https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/zk8FYT

 

[moedaff]

2x4GB with provide better performance than 1x8GB. 2x8GB will provide the same performance and give you memory capacity for the future.

Thanks for the reply.
This is the updated build https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/zDjjq4.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor (£142.48 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI - B450-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard (£85.97 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£74.16 @ Technextday)
Storage: Kingston - A400 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£33.54 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX 580 8GB ARMOR OC Video Card (£229.97 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Corsair - Carbide SPEC-04 (Black/Gray) ATX Mid Tower Case (£44.39 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£65.47 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £675.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-28 17:08 BST+0100

Slightly better PSU, roughly the same price. Couldn't find the same case though.

Thank you for your input.
I noticed you changed the mobo which is more expensive, is it important or can I stick with the MSI - B450M PRO-M2 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard?

 

[moedaff]

I'd recommend going for 2666mhz as a minimum for ram if this is a gaming build, Ryzen scales well with faster RAM unlike Intel builds. Don't pay too much for fastest, swaggiest, RGB ram, but if its only say an extra $20-30 to get 8gbs of 3000 mhz or something I would definitely do so.

Also like mentioned, going with 2x4gb and then upgrading to 4x4gb down the line is a better bet than starting with 1x8gb


Edit:
Here's 2 x 4gb @ 3000 mhz added to the build, and I think it's cheaper than what you had in there https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/zk8FYT

Thank you for your advice.
I read some things about ryzen and ram speeds and I think I will aim for at least 3000mhz if not ill do 2666.
Thank you for the recomendation!

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

2x4GB with provide better performance than 1x8GB. 2x8GB will provide the same performance and give you memory capacity for the future.

Thanks for the reply.
This is the updated build https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/zDjjq4.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor (£142.48 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI - B450-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard (£85.97 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£74.16 @ Technextday)
Storage: Kingston - A400 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£33.54 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX 580 8GB ARMOR OC Video Card (£229.97 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Corsair - Carbide SPEC-04 (Black/Gray) ATX Mid Tower Case (£44.39 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£65.47 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £675.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-28 17:08 BST+0100

Slightly better PSU, roughly the same price. Couldn't find the same case though.

Thank you for your input.
I noticed you changed the mobo which is more expensive, is it important or can I stick with the MSI - B450M PRO-M2 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard?

There's one or two difference, the most important being the number of ram slots. 4 on the Pro A 2 on the Pro M2. Just for being able to add more ram down the line it's a better option. The Pro A has slightly better audio too.

It also has a rollback feature for the bios which can be quite useful.

 

[pistolpete69]

2x4GB with provide better performance than 1x8GB. 2x8GB will provide the same performance and give you memory capacity for the future.

Thanks for the reply.
This is the updated build https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/zDjjq4.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor (£142.48 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI - B450-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard (£85.97 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£74.16 @ Technextday)
Storage: Kingston - A400 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£33.54 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX 580 8GB ARMOR OC Video Card (£229.97 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Corsair - Carbide SPEC-04 (Black/Gray) ATX Mid Tower Case (£44.39 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£65.47 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £675.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-28 17:08 BST+0100

Slightly better PSU, roughly the same price. Couldn't find the same case though.

Thank you for your input.
I noticed you changed the mobo which is more expensive, is it important or can I stick with the MSI - B450M PRO-M2 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard?

There's one or two difference, the most important being the number of ram slots. 4 on the Pro A 2 on the Pro M2. Just for being able to add more ram down the line it's a better option. The Pro A has slightly better audio too.

It also has a rollback feature for the bios which can be quite useful.

He's right you should definitely try to get a board with 4 ram slots if possible, especially if you're only planning to start with 8gb (2x4). I'm sure there are plenty micro-atx boards with 4 slots, just find the one with the features you need. I personally have never had issues with Asus boards but that's just been my experience

 

[kanewolf]

He's right you should definitely try to get a board with 4 ram slots if possible, especially if you're only planning to start with 8gb (2x4). I'm sure there are plenty micro-atx boards with 4 slots, just find the one with the features you need. I personally have never had issues with Asus boards but that's just been my experience

Generally the maximum clock speed supported with 4 DIMMs is lower. Also mix-and-match of RAM is always a gamble. The best and highest performing configuration is to have 1 DIMM per memory channel on the CPU. Replacing the 2x4GB with 2x8GB in the future is a better path than adding another 2x4GB.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

He's right you should definitely try to get a board with 4 ram slots if possible, especially if you're only planning to start with 8gb (2x4). I'm sure there are plenty micro-atx boards with 4 slots, just find the one with the features you need. I personally have never had issues with Asus boards but that's just been my experience

Generally the maximum clock speed supported with 4 DIMMs is lower. Also mix-and-match of RAM is always a gamble. The best and highest performing configuration is to have 1 DIMM per memory channel on the CPU. Replacing the 2x4GB with 2x8GB in the future is a better path than adding another 2x4GB.

That is true. For Ryzen with 4 dimms populated it can be as low as 1866 or 2133mhz more often than not. Depends on whether the DIMMS are single or dual ranked. Agree on the replacement kits 2 for 2. Too hit and miss mixing DIMMS.