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I don´t see any mistakes!

<b><font color=red> Care for a BANANA , ASS_HOLE?</font color=red></b>

Btw, compared to some mispellings you often make i could pass for an English Citizen a lot better than you could!
And you are supposed to be American??
Maybe you should go back to school and do something usefull
with your time , instead of making a sorry ass of yourself!

<b>I ate so much Cookies , i think i´m gonna puke!</b> <font color=red>CHANGE THAT DAMN SIG OF THE WEEK!</font color=red>
 
Sighs @ ZaNtHeR.
You are such a looser, I'm starting to feel sorry for you.

You expect people to listen to your opinions after you flame all the old members on this board <shakes his head>

I vote that ZaNtHeR is put to Number#1 on "The List" (you guys know what I'm talking about *hehe*)

Compaq<font color=red>👎</font color=red><font color=purple>Com/pac:</font color=purple> A lemon in a flash case
 
Compaq: Shows the power and mystique of the 90's. Great marketing can always make up for a shaky product. This almost always works when you try to woo the masses. Thank god most of us have more sense than that. Makes you wonder why he wastes so much of his time (aside from entertaining us) trying to convince us otherwise.
I guess he is trying to show compaq in the same light as the other companies with great marketing. Microsh*t, Nortel (ouch), etc...


This parachute is guaranteed for the life of the user...
 
my my my you lot make interesting reading. Zanther - yo earth to Zanther - woo hoo - nope he's a gonner

If it ain't broke don't fix it
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the problem is you do not understand that those things happen to the best computer's what you need to think about is the cost for what you have compairable to a gateway!!!!!!!
 
the problem is you do not understand that those things happen to the best computer's what you need to think about is the cost for what you have compairable to a gateway!!!!!!!
 
Good Lord!

This Thread is still going!!! Maw haw haw

Down with Compaq!

Compaq<font color=red>👎</font color=red><font color=purple>Com/pac:</font color=purple> A lemon in a flash case
 
Ok, here's my contribution: I tried to upgrade my fathers Compaq. He needed more RAM. Piece of cake, right? Buy SDRAM, plug it in... Windows din't boot anymore, while DOS worked fine. Too bad he only uses windows. My brother has an identical machine, so I tried it there. This one wouldn't boot at all. Back to the store, got a replacement. Same problems. Visited the Compaq site. Ah! They do sell RAM that is compatible with a Compaq. A bit (understatement of the year) more expensive than normal RAM, though.

This story does have a happy ending, though: we went to a different store, bought RAM, and that worked fine. It costed about 5 hours of my valuable time in total, though.
 
It's never ceased to amaze me how audacious manufacturers can be. They will sell the same RAM module for 300% its market price because *they* say it will work on their computer.

In this particular case, the problem was likely as much the memory as it was Compaq.

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In this case, well over 500% of the neighbourhood computer store's price, not to mention the dirt cheap store where I got my machine. On the mobo, there were solder points for a third SDRAM slot, but there was no slot. I mean, why didn't they just add the slot? Would make upgrading easier...
 
I am an ex Scrappaq owner.

I tryed to download IE5.5 update of size about 6MB.The connection died at apr. 4MB.I tried again and again.I got always some 4MB,no moore.I of course checked all the modem settings and such,but Scrappaq refused to download longer then about 45 minutes(dialup).I was convinced that I had missed something and I contacted Scrappaq "Helpdesk".They told me it's an ISP problem(then I didn't know better).I called my ISP and they tryed to help me the best they could(several different modem init strings etc.),but of no help.
Finally I gave up and didn't trye to download anything bigger then 4MB.
Only after I had scrapped the Scrappaq I found out I wasn't alone whit this problem.The Scrappaq intelligently desided that the line was inactive because it was only downloading.Oh well.

Next time I'll tell you about the memory update.
 
Well I hate proprietary parts any ways, but compaq and gate way have even worse! I got a 33.6 Voice modem in a presario I got a few years back befroe I started building my own rigs. Come to find out if you use this modem in another computer it will cause damage to the mother board!!! Same with gateway. I was replacing the CD-Rom for a gateway of my freinds. he got a CD burner. I installed it and nothing. So I install it in another computer.. Get a hardware error. So I get a normal CD-Rom and install it in the gateway. Nothing. Back to the regular computer Hardware error. Put the original CD-Rom back in the gate way and worked fine. Not only proprietary parts but parts that pretend to be standard and break things!! Thats ridiculous!

Computer: $2000 Internet Access: $40 Registering for forums: Free A good signature: Priceless
 
So Compaq rocks huh Zanther...... well you must pony up with some of that crack you are smokin' cause it must be good stuff. I went over to a friends house one day back in 1999(I think) and he had a Crappaq Pesario something or another. He had onboard everything (of course) and it was one of those micro ATX (Compaq proprietary) boards. He wanted to install a 16MB Voodoo 2 PCI vidcard. So I rip open the case and bust out the manual. It says there is a jumper to disable onboard video. I move the jumble of wires around and..... nada. I look and look and look. Finally I figured out that the actual plastic jumper isn't there, just the pins for it. Oh great, now I had to go down and scrounge one out of my bin o' parts. I get back and I install both the card and jumper. Boot up the PC and You guessed it...... Nothing. It posts, but I can't see anything. So I says, okay I will pull said jumper and use both vidcards. Nope, noway, not havin that. So I tell the poor guy that I will buy that badboy off of him for his cost and tell him to save his dinero for me to build he a PC. I took home my new card and 3 days later he offloaded that Crappaq to some web surfing granny and paid me a good sum to build him a top o' the line PC (a PIII). I did so and he has never bought another pre-built since.

Things I noticed to be proprietary to Crappaq:

PSU had a wierd connector on it and the fan was on the other side.

The Floppy disk mounting holes were in the wrong spot for a normal case and it had to front on it cause of the type of Crappaq case.

The motherboard was of a make and model noone except compaq had any info on.

Just a computer junky
 
Ummmm... you do realize that the Voodoo 2 card is a 3D add-on card only, right? It will NOT display your desktop or ANY 2D content. You have to use a VGA pass-thru cable from your current vid card into the Voodoo 2 card. Then out of the V2 into your monitor. If you disabled the onboard video... then that explains the problem. The Voodoo 2 has never been and never will be a standalone card.

Also, a few years ago, yes Compaq was proprietary. However, most of their newer Presario models (5000 series comes to mind) don't require Compaq parts. Want a new mobo? No problem... need a more powerful PS? Throw it in. You can't point to a computer more than 4 years old and say AH-HA! I was right!



<font color=red> If you design software that is fool-proof, only a fool will want to use it. </font color=red>
 
ur right, my bad it was a VooDoo banshee card. It was a long time ago so I got it a little mixed up with an HP I did around the same time that I had a few problems with too.

Just a computer junky
 
Sup Zanther!

Saw your posts here, and I just HAD to aquire an account so I could tell you, and all, my compaq tale. You tell me, once I am done, what you think of my "configuration".

This happened about 4 years ago. I worked at a bank that used only compaq. Compaq servers, desktops, raid arrays... Oh yeah, it was happenin' compaq big time.

So, on a fairly regular interval, the compaq servers would need a "redesign kit" to be implemented. We had the Big rack mount boys that were about 12 inches high. Anyhow, you would get this kit, and you basically had to gut the thing, then take the support rails outta the case, rearrange the supports with new parts, and put everything back. Now the hard disks would be on a different side, cooling airflow would be redirected all different, etc.

Now, you ask, why would they do that? Isnt that expensive? Why dont they engineer right before mass produce? Well... you know... cheapest QA dept in the world is, your customer base.

So here's my story-

I had this standup server that had a 8 disk raid array at a remote location. And, a fix it kit came in... turns out the backplane on the raid controller was a FIRE HAZARD. Well, how-dee! Thats enough to have the boss-man tell me to drop everything and go fix it. Fires, it seems, are not viewed favorably in the IT world. So, I go down to the remote office, complete with this new backplane. No big deal. Now this was about 8" by 6" and I would say over 1/8 inch thick. The extra thick PCB. Tough mother.

I start dismantling the server, back the hot swappable raid cage out, unplg the IDE(or whatever kind) cables off the back of it, swap out backplanes (very careful with ESD, thank you) and thats it. Start to put it back in and realize that the hot swap feature does not leave much room for the cables. See, the engineers designed for the airflow without condsidering the cables. At least, thats what it looks like to me. Maybe they had a cut in banana pay that year, who knows. (ooh ooh)

SO I finally trick the cables into falling the right way so the raid cage seats. Plug in all the hard disks again. And I power the server on.

Ready for the fun Zanther? You got your popcorn ready? This is, the good part here. Try to listen now. Turn off Pokemon for a minute. Good.

The server, within 1 second of power up, is POURING, no BELCHING forth THICK BLACK SMOKE. The thickest I have ever seen. This is no VW bus exhaust, this is maybe Vegas smoke, some sort of magic trick. Dark dark black. Woulda been funny except for one thing-

That was the FOULEST smell I have ever smelled. Burning PCB is the absolute worst. Stayed in my clothing, car and hands for a week.

So of course I shut that @&*(^$# thing off as fast as I could. Beat it to HD initialization so no data was lost. Thanks goodness for that. The cause, as determined by a very sheepish compaq engineer I personally spoke with later (which actually speaks to thier benefit that they spoke personally with me- then again, exposing people to FIRE with bad engineering, that may have been a legal dept call in terms of damage control). Anyhow, it was; a bad capacitor/layout problem combo on the backplane.

The kicker? They were having me replace the other one due to a POSSIBLE FIRE HAZARD. Too funny.

The backplane afterwards, the thick one, had a hole burned through it the size of a silver dollar. It was only on for maybe 2-4 seconds! Good god!

Yeah Zanther, explain how that was MY fault, and not compaqs brilliant engineering. And we all know that the servers get the better engineers too, which speaks very well for the PCs, dont it? Was it bad RAM? LOL.

And the name of the company that manufactured that board was on the board... can you guess who it was?

C*****

Theres your first hint.

RD

PS- On the flp side- this is the funniest thing that I have ever seen in the sysadmin biz, and I do have compaq to thank for a great tale. Everyone enjoys that story. Thanks compaq! For that I am truly thankful. Good stuff.
 
I'm sure any number of sys admins could tell you any number of horror stories about any number of manufacturers. The point? Could have easily been an IBM or HP server. Compaq engineers are certainly NOT the only ones to have performed technological boners.

The important issue is what do they do to fix it? Do they simply laugh and shrug you off or do they help you until the issue is resolved to your satisfaction? You aren't the first and you certainly won't be the last to receive a defective replacement part (Dell does this quite often).

What I'm asking is this: What did Compaq do about it?

<font color=red> If you design software that is fool-proof, only a fool will want to use it. </font color=red>
 
An excellent point, Zoron. That's what will keep me from EVER buying a Canon printer or a Visioneer scanner in the future. Even the initial quality of an item doesn't mean a thing unless the manufacturer steps up to the plate on service and support.

Admittedly, there is no such thing as "Zero Defect". But if the manufacturer will take care of problems in a way that's timely and convenient to the customer, then that kind of thing can be allowed for.

=== Never assume ANYTHING ===