Compatibility Check for my first PC?

[Forchukb]

Will these parts be compatible with each other? First build sorry for the lack of knowledge, looking for the best bang for my buck! Might go AMD but I think Intel is the way for me. Thanks!

Case:
Fractal Design: Arc XL Full Tower Case, Black w/ Window

Motherboard:
MSI: Z87-GD65 GAMING w/ Dual DDR3 1600, SB Cinema 7.1 Audio, Killer™ GB Lan, CrossFireX / SLI, HDMI, DVI, D-Sub

CPU:
Intel: Core™ i5-4670K Processor, 3.40GHz w/ 6MB Cache

RAM:
Corsair: Vengeance Pro 16GB DDR3 2400MHz CL10 Dual Channel Kit (2 x 8GB)

GPU:
MSI: N770 GAMING GeForce GTX 770 2GB PCI-E w/ Dual DVI, HDMI, Display Port

Hard Drives:
WD: 2TB Red SATA III Hard Drive w/ 64MB Cache
Kingston: SSDNow V300 Solid State Drive, 120GB

PSU:
Corsair: Enthusiast Series TX850M Modular Power Supply

CPU Cooler:
Zalman: CNPS9900 MAX CPU Cooler w/ Red LED

OS:
Microsoft: Windows 7 Home Premium x64 (64-bit)

Peripherals:
BenQ: RL2455HM 24in Gaming LED LCD w/ Speakers
ThermalTake Meka G1 Mechanical Gaming Keyboard w/ Detachable Wrist Rest

 

[sosofm]

If is for gaming 8GB RAM are enough and if you don't plan to SLI a good 600W-650W PSU is more than enough even with all your system overclocked.
All the parts what you choosed are compatible.

 

[filippi]

Its all good. This PSU will be enough for 2x GTX770.

 

[filippi]

Check out this EVGA SuperNOVA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply for $60 at newegg:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438005&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

 

[M0kujin]

yes its compatible alright, but thats not bang for your buck.

Get z87-GD45 gaming instead of GD65 -20$
CPU get i7 4770k instead of i5, its better to prepare for future gaming. +100$
RAM get 8GB first then upgrade later 1600mhz is enough, there a no significant difference between the 1600 and 2400 -60$
PSU http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx750m -60$

 

[Forchukb]

Awesome thanks guys! MOkujin what is the difference between the CPU's?

 

[M0kujin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Cj8RP4kEGo
http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=4546&game=Watch%20Dogs = Check the Ultra requirements it needs 3770k at least

you might want to consider that in the future, gaming will have multi core support so having hyperthreading is beneficial for next gen gaming.

 

[Forchukb]

Sounds good i7 it is then! All my components are optimized for each other then if i lower my power supply to a 650W, an i7 and a lower MHz ram?

 

[boulbox]

You really only need 8GB of ram for games and may want to stick with 1600 speed to save money. In most cases, faster ram does not always mean better for games and price wise too. Only on BF4 i have seen higher speed ram do more work but you would rather get that extra performance from other means.

Assuming your complete build is about $1500

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($222.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U9B SE2 37.9 CFM CPU Cooler ($46.99 @ Mwave)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($57.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($79.76 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($334.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define XL R2 (Black Pearl) ATX Full Tower Case ($109.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 760W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($88.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Asus VG23AH 23.0" Monitor ($177.58 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Ducky Zero Shine Blue LED Keyboard Wired Gaming Keyboard ($112.14 @ NCIX US)
Mouse: SteelSeries Sensei RAW Wired Laser Mouse ($49.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: $1585.36
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-15 03:39 EST-0500)

If you really want that 16GB of ram http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f31866c9d16gxm

 

[M0kujin]

Sounds good i7 it is then! All my components are optimized for each other then if i lower my power supply to a 650W, an i7 and a lower MHz ram?

Yes 650w is enough. i7 and GTX 770 has a low power consumption compare to AMD. so you're all good.

 

[boulbox]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Cj8RP4kEGo
http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=4546&game=Watch%20Dogs = Check the Ultra requirements it needs 3770k at least

you might want to consider that in the future, gaming will have multi core support so having hyperthreading is beneficial for next gen gaming.

Multi-core support and hyperthreading is different. i5 and i7 are just the same in gaming performance and hyperthreading sometimes lead to lower performance

 

[M0kujin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Cj8RP4kEGo
http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=4546&game=Watch%20Dogs = Check the Ultra requirements it needs 3770k at least

you might want to consider that in the future, gaming will have multi core support so having hyperthreading is beneficial for next gen gaming.

Multi-core support and hyperthreading is different. i5 and i7 are just the same in gaming performance and hyperthreading sometimes lead to lower performance

yeah, but with hyperthreading you can get 4 logical cores not the same as physical but it acts almost the same. As per the reasearch shows that it would be optimized also on hyperthreading technology. so its better to get i7 now just to be safe in the near future. I'm not saying that i5 is stupid slow compare to i7 on gaming but what I am saying is for future purposes specially when he is just building his computer. Back then its ok to suggest i5 for gaming, but as of this moment as we are seeing how the technology in gaming goes., its really not a good idea to get i5 specially if he can avail i7 4770k, theres no problem with it.

 

[boulbox]

Hyperthreading has been around for 10 years, it is not optimized for gaming. There is no research that is going to say/show that it helps in games because it doesn't. Also if there is research, please do post as i would love to see what they have.

 

[M0kujin]

http://techreport.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=86637 you can see a performance difference

I really don't know what is your problem with i7 being on gaming but he can never be wrong on getting one, performance/technology wise its better than i5...

And the only thing to note that if he can afford it, why not??? specially when the next gen games requirements like watchdogs requires 3770k for ultra.

The only thing hinders him from getting i7 4770k is if he cant afford it.

 

[Jimmy Mosher]

he should get the i7 4770k over the i5 3770k and if he wants 16 gb of ram thats good but there no reason to get 2400 mhz either get 1600 or 1866 and other than that his rig is perfect

 

[boulbox]

So you are saying that he should get the i7 because of +1 or 2 FPS. The reason why i do not like the i7 is because it costs $100 more than the i5 and for gaming performance, it is pretty much on-par. If he has that extra $100 to spend, i would rather suggest beefing up the GPU which will provide a lot more FPS.

 

[Jimmy Mosher]

So you are saying that he should get the i7 because of +1 or 2 FPS. The reason why i do not like the i7 is because it costs $100 more than the i5 and for gaming performance, it is pretty much on-par. If he has that extra $100 to spend, i would rather suggest beefing up the GPU which will provide a lot more FPS.

Well I should have said if he wants to record games or stream he should get the i7 which is alot better then the i5 when it comes to that and if he is just gaming then the i5 is perfect for him but if i could afford a rig i would get the i7 because i would want to record and stream. As far as beefing up the GPU a extra 100 isn't gonna add nothing a extra 300-500 will and if he did get anything better he wouldn't see any extra performance for the next 2-3 years and by that time the (gtx 880 ti boost turbo) will be out and it (hopefully) will be around the same price that the 770 he is getting now

 

[M0kujin]

So you are saying that he should get the i7 because of +1 or 2 FPS. The reason why i do not like the i7 is because it costs $100 more than the i5 and for gaming performance, it is pretty much on-par. If he has that extra $100 to spend, i would rather suggest beefing up the GPU which will provide a lot more FPS.

Man, if you have a fetish on i5, don't force it to everyone... sorry man, It seems like you're saying if someone is getting i7 for gaming is stupid (even if you can afford it), getting 4770k has more benefits other than gaming, and he will benefit from it one way or another. Even if his build is on the purpose of being a gaming PC, later on may he could be video editing, streaming, recording, better multi-tasking and i7 4770k is the perfect CPU for it..

And what I am saying is to prepare for future gaming when more cores/threads are needed to get the maximum experience on gaming, that's why its a safer bet to go with i7 if he can afford it.

And lets say for a moment that the information of next gen gaming needs more cores/threads is false, does that mean that he wasted his money for a more premium cpu? I guess not... he would still benefit from more premium CPU in gaming or not gaming, he will get what he payed for..

 

[boulbox]

You still don't get that a 780+i5 will have more performance than 770+i7 for gaming? Even with streaming and video editing, i5 will do the job plain and simple. You get the i7 for a workstation CPU meaning most of your time is going to be wasted into video editing and rendering. That is where an i7 shines the most over an i5.

 

[Jimmy Mosher]

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-n770tf2gd5oc

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-n780tf3gd5oc

$175.01 for what? nothing if you are only using 1 monitor

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54670k

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i74770k

$97 for what? 1-5 better fps and if he wants to use fraps or record for youtube/stream then its alot better

 

[MDXX]

LOL OP does not need an i7!

 

[M0kujin]

www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=4546&game=Watch%20Dogs


well I already prove my point that some next gen games needs i7 for maximum gaming experience i just posted it above.
nobody said that i7/gtx770 is better than i5/gtx780 thats very elementary man, of course 780 will better at gaming. But I already standing on my point I wont go any further, next gen games like watchdogs requires atleast i7 for maximum gaming experience and many more games will be cpu intensive too, because a lot of articles are saying that next gen games will rely more on CPU for better performance. Im not saying that i5 cannot play those next gen games but it might bottleneck and holdback the gpu due to the lack of cores/threads.

if you are playing the current games i5 would be sufficient because games are not optimize with multicores and thread like bf3, with only 2 cores running on i7 you can actually play it with almost just 2fps lower than playing it with 4 cores (linus reference) but as new games emerge specially with system requirements showing up on the net,it surely is wiser to go with i7 or even fx 8350.

actually fx 8350 is also safer bet than i5 and much cheaper,if that is your problem with i7 then go with fx8350 instead of i5 if you are thinking what future gaming may hold.

www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-future-proofing-your-pc-for-next-gen