Computer completely Locking up

[Jenkins453]

Today I went into my BIOS and changed some of the settings around to allow for better performance from my PC using the ASUS easy tools. It was literally just clicking the performance tab to apply the pre-configured settings then saving and exiting. I restarted as normal, and browsed the internet for a few hours with no problems. So I started up Rainbow Six Siege after browsing the web and watching some YouTube videos and then almost 2 minutes into it my PC (one I'm currently on) completely locks up. I have no idea why, and its totally 100% unresponsive. Also, as I am typing this a message just popped up from my AI Suite Tools showing a red indicator with my +3.3V meter (being too high maybe?) I changed nothing with voltages in BIOS. I then proceeded to go back into BIOS and revert everything back to its default settings to remedy the problem, yet it still persists. Also, my temps for my CPU have gone up about 7 - 10C at idle when last night with the same ambient room temp, and I have absolutely no idea why. Any possible solutions to my problem would be greatly appreciated.

Oh, and before I forget to add it: last night there were zero issues with heat, lockups or anything and I played Siege for about 4 hours continuously with other programs running in the background


EDIT: So I stress tested my CPU and when it starts heating up (hitting 48C in particular) every single time I get a message from AI Suite talking about my 3.3 voltages being in a "Red Zone." Can anyone clarify what that means and how to fix it?

 

[Multipack]

You either have your voltage set too high in BIOS, still have overclocked setting that are making it go too high, or blew your PSU by overclocking in the first place.

 

[MeanMachine41]

Hi Jenkins453 You may now have instability issues and possibly AISuite conflicting with changes to Bios.

Don't use AISuite to OC your system. If it continues then uninstall AISuite. It does not work well with some systems. Always best to OC from with the Bios. Clear CMOS back to default or flash your Bios to latest in case of corruption.

There are a series of stress tests that will determine if your PSU is doing its job when under load. I doubt that is your problem as your PSU is one of the best. No guarantee of coarse.

I use AIDA64 in conjunction with HWMonitor when testing for stability.
Put them on your desktop side by side and run the various tests in AIDA64.
Run the tests for CPU, FPU first and post the results here for scrutiny if not sure of the readings.
Stop testing if temps reach 80C and take screen shots at the 10min mark.
Run the other test separately on you other sub systems.
Please report back.

 

[Jenkins453]

Hi Jenkins453 You may now have instability issues and possibly AISuite conflicting with changes to Bios.

Don't use AISuite to OC your system. If it continues then uninstall AISuite. It does not work well with some systems. Always best to OC from with the Bios. Clear CMOS back to default or flash your Bios to latest in case of corruption.

There are a series of stress tests that will determine if your PSU is doing its job when under load. I doubt that is your problem as your PSU is one of the best. No guarantee of coarse.

I use AIDA64 in conjunction with HWMonitor when testing for stability.
Put them on your desktop side by side and run the various tests in AIDA64.
Run the tests for CPU, FPU first and post the results here for scrutiny if not sure of the readings.
Stop testing if temps reach 80C and take screen shots at the 10min mark.
Run the other test separately on you other sub systems.
Please report back.

Hi MeanMachine41 and thanks for the quick reply! So as I've never used AIDA64 and am unfamiliar with how it works, I'm not exactly sure which CPU tests you would like me to run and there are multiple (unless you would like to see them all of course!) I will get you whichever screenshots you would like ASAP now that I'm off of work.

 

[Jenkins453]

Ok, so I actually messed with the program for a little bit and figured out what I believe you were asking for. Here are the screenshots: http://

I noticed in the "Statistics" panel that there are a few yellow marks by my voltages, though I have absolutely no idea what they mean other than that something is wrong

 

[MeanMachine41]

Go to the Tools menu in AIDA64 and chose stability Test.
Check boxes for CPU and FPU only as an initial test.
To post a link to your screen shots, you can use IMIGUR as a file host. Once your screen shots are uploaded, click on images and obtain the BBurl to link here for scrutiny.
I would like to see your Rail voltages with 100% utilization and temperatures under load.

As I said before, clear CMOS back to default so we can check stability at stock frequency and core voltage. This provides a base line before any OC. It will also help if you list your ASUS MB, CPU, DIMMs, Cooling system and PSU.

 

[Jenkins453]

Go to the Tools menu in AIDA64 and chose stability Test.
Check boxes for CPU and FPU only as an initial test.
To post a link to your screen shots, you can use IMIGUR as a file host. Once your screen shots are uploaded, click on images and obtain the BBurl to link here for scrutiny.
I would like to see your Rail voltages with 100% utilization and temperatures under load.

As I said before, clear CMOS back to default so we can check stability at stock frequency and core voltage. This provides a base line before any OC. It will also help if you list your ASUS MB, CPU, DIMMs, Cooling system and PSU.

http://imgur.com/tIeqa2G
http://imgur.com/qmtsrOA
http://imgur.com/7q9h8Tp
http://imgur.com/EvckAxP

 

[MeanMachine41]

Ok, so I actually messed with the program for a little bit and figured out what I believe you were asking for. Here are the screenshots: http://

I noticed in the "Statistics" panel that there are a few yellow marks by my voltages, though I have absolutely no idea what they mean other than that something is wrong

OK now I see your results and I see you have the Beast FX-9590. It is a temperamental Processor and needs an efficient voltage supply especially when turbo kicks in to 5.0GHz. Which MB are you using and PSU? important.
Need that information before we continue.
You have a slight voltage droop on your core which we can fix in Bios.
You temperatures are OK under load, so can I assume your system is Water Cooled.?
Let me guess, Its an H110 or better.? Your temps are very good.

 

[Jenkins453]

Ok, so I actually messed with the program for a little bit and figured out what I believe you were asking for. Here are the screenshots: http://

I noticed in the "Statistics" panel that there are a few yellow marks by my voltages, though I have absolutely no idea what they mean other than that something is wrong

OK now I see your results and I see you have the Beast FX-9590. It is a temperamental Processor and needs an efficient voltage supply especially when turbo kicks in to 5.0GHz. Which MB are you using and PSU? important.
Need that information before we continue.
You have a slight voltage droop on your core which we can fix in Bios.
You temperatures are OK under load, so can I assume your system is Water Cooled.?
Let me guess, Its an H110 or better.? Your temps are very good.

I have the ASUS Sabertooth 990FX R2.0
PS: Corsiar RM850
and yes, it is watercooled with the H110i

 

[MeanMachine41]

Very good MB and one of a few that fully supports the FX-9590. I have the Crosshair V Formula Z on two of my systems using the 9590.
OK go into your Bios. If you are happy to use Turbo Core for your OC then that's OK. You are close to stability but not there yet. If you want to try for 5.2GHz then changes to settings will have to be made and patience is required to achieve the extra performance. There is a definite method to get your system 24/7 stable.
First navigate your way to Digi+ Power Control and change your LLC to Ultra High.
go to CPU Current Capability and up it to 120%. This will help with voltage droop.
Reboot and run the stress test again as I want to see your temps and voltages with this setting. You will probably see a slight increase in temperature. Ideal is 65-70C under load.

 

[Jenkins453]

Here are the screenshots after the new settings have been applied:

http://imgur.com/aXCMOyj --> Statistics
http://imgur.com/l8UoA6f ----> Temps
http://imgur.com/5TFRiPp --> Voltages


It started getting pretty hot about halfway - 3/4 through the 10 minute mark but peaked at about 78. I figured if it hit 80 I would stop it, but it never quite got there. Though those temps are still a bit high for my personal comfort level. Also, as you said, those changes definitely helped with the voltage droops! Very much appreciate the help with the OC'ing too, as I have very little experience in doing this (obviously haha)

 

[MeanMachine41]

Thanks for the report Jake. Your temps are OK as it is under full stress and leveled out.
Under normal conditions it will never get that high anyway.
Sometimes Bios settings can change so next you should save a profile in Bios, should you feel the need to try for more performance and If things go belly up you can always go back to your saved profile.
If you are happy at your present OC then so am I. Oh and get rid of AISuite. looks nice but not for OCing.

Now for a real world test.
Download Realbench from ASUS. Run the test for 15mins using all memory and if you pass the test you are stable 24/7. This is a realworld tester and does not use Synthetic algorithms so its not so harsh but a good tester anyways. Monitor your temps using HWMonitor during the test.

 

[Jenkins453]

Thanks for the report Jake. Your temps are OK as it is under full stress and leveled out.
Under normal conditions it will never get that high anyway.
Sometimes Bios settings can change so next you should save a profile in Bios, should you feel the need to try for more performance and If things go belly up you can always go back to your saved profile.
If you are happy at your present OC then so am I. Oh and get rid of AISuite. looks nice but not for OCing.

Now for a real world test.
Download Realbench from ASUS. Run the test for 15mins using all memory and if you pass the test you are stable 24/7. This is a realworld tester and does not use Synthetic algorithms so its not so harsh but a good tester anyways. Monitor your temps using HWMonitor during the test.

So I just ran the Realbench stress test and right as it hit 15min my desktop shut off. It did hit 81C and i was about to stop it but it just shut itself down before I got to click it. Up until that point it was all fine though, sitting at roughly 78 - 80C. Also, if possible I would like to OC as much as is safely possible. Maybe up to 5.0 or 5.1? Im not entirely sure what the upper limits on the 9590 are, but based on what task manager tells me, 4.7 is currently my maximum

 

[MeanMachine41]

CPU Core voltage at 1.5V is what is taking your temps up over 80C so lets try a fixed voltage.
Go to >CPU and NB Voltage and switch to Manual mode. Key in 1.3875V and test again in AIDA64.
If it fails but the temps are below 80C then raise core voltage .010V in steps till the system is stable.
Again link the test results.
Obviously we are not quite there yet but close. If you can't get it stable then try a fixed frequency at 4.7GHz and turn Turbo mode off. If not sure how to go about this, just let me know.

Finding the upper limits involves fine tuning and the principles are this.
All chips are different and its a matter of small increases in frequency 100MHz at a time and small .010v steps at a time till its stable. This involves rebooting and stress testing at each step till you reach the "Wall" where no matter what you do you can't attain stability.
You then drop down 100MHz at a time till its stable and that's your MAX OC for that chip.
It takes time and patience to get there.

 

[Jenkins453]

Which fortunately I have plenty of! Once I'm off work that is. Though tomorrow is my off day, so I can spend time doing this while simultaneously getting back to you quicker.

As for now though, I'm currently at 1.3875 as you said for CPU voltage and it only reached 57C. I'll begin bumping it up bit by bit until it reaches about 75 - 78C and get back to you

 

[Jenkins453]

Also just to clarify you wanted me to only change the CPU voltage correct? Not the cpu/nb voltage?

And is there a voltage I should stop at? Like a... cutoff point of sorts where I just shouldn't increase the voltages any more?

UPDATE:
http://imgur.com/AfaswOq --> Temps
http://imgur.com/7K8UbY1 --> Voltages
http://imgur.com/3ONs9Ep --> Stats

This is where I'm at now, and until I hear from you again I'll stop there. I dont want to accidentally push it outside of safe ranges without knowing and potentially damage my CPU

 

[MeanMachine41]

You can go up to 1.5V MAX on the CPU core and I don't recommend to go beyond that. Leave the NB at Auto.
Mine is at 1.375V for my OC. My H110 keeps temps below 70-75C at 25-26C ambient. I also keep a lower profile for Summer months when temps go above 35C ambient. I can play all the AAA games I have at MAX settings.
There is little to gain, performance wise and quite honestly, chasing the extra 200-300MHz is not worth it, I have found. I spent a lot of time getting to 5.2GHz as it involves adaptive voltage, no core C6 or C1E states for power saving and changes to Dram Timing Control plus a few other changes till I got what I want.
If your system is stable with current settings and your temps look good then be happy with what you have.

You have the necessary tools now and sufficient familiarity with Bios to experiment with different settings and by all means try for the MAX.