Question Computer running slow while playing World of Warcraft ?

[darkknightrasil]

Playing World of Warcraft, I have extreme delay and lag which should not be happening. I built m PC a few years ago after my last one died which lasted 11 years or so that should have been replaced a bit before that.

I am running on pretty much 10-30 FPS anywhere i go, last night in raid i ran at 10 Frames per second which froze my screen on bosses. wondering if it is something to do with my computer itself or if i need upgrade anything else. Issue tends to be in game only as I can stream videos on one screen while playing games even though the game is slow.

I've had my PC since a year after the 3080 was released i believe it will be 4 years later this year.
CPU:
Intel Core I9 10900K 3.70 GHz
Motherboard: ROG Maximus XII Hero
RAM: DDR4 32GB (2 sticks 16x2) Can expand to 2 additional slots
Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080
Hard Drive: SSD Evo 500g (only WoW is used on it along with minor things) all other program files are stashed on other hard drives.


I also have 2 monitors that are 8 and 7 years old if this is a cause for it.

Dell P2714H IPS 27-Inch Screen LED-Lit Monitor​

Dell Professional P2717H 27" Screen LED-Lit Monitor,Black
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*UPDATED SPEC List:
CPU: Intel Core I9 10900K 3.70 GHz
CPU cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 250W TDP CPU Cooler
Motherboard: ROG Maximus XII Hero
Ram: DDR4 32GB (2 sticks 16x2) Can expand to 2 additional slots
SSD/HDD: SSD Evo 500g (only WoW is used on it along with minor things) all other programs/files are stashed on other hard drives total of 5.
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080
PSU: CORSAIR RM1000X
- Chassis: Thermaltake View 71 4-Sided Tempered Glass Vertical GPU Modular SPCC E-ATX Gaming Full Tower Computer Case with 2 Blue LED Ring Fan Pre-installed CA-1I7-00F1WN-00
OS: Windows 11
Monitor: x2 ( 8 and 7 year old monitors)
- Dell P2714H IPS 27-Inch Screen LED-Lit Monitor
- Dell Professional P2717H 27" Screen LED-Lit Monitor,Black


The original PSU for my PC had to be replaced due to needing a stronger PSU. The initial one I had bought was a Seasonic Focus Plus 750 Gold SSR-750FX 750W 80+ Gold ATX12V but was not able to keep up with my pc.

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[Lutfij]

I've had my PC sice a year after the 3080 was released i believe it will be 4 years later this year.
CPU:
Intel Core I9 10900K 3.70 GHz
Motherboard: ROG Maximus XII Hero
RAM: DDR4 32GB (2 sticks 16x2) Can expand to 2 additional slots
Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080
Hard Drive: SSD Evo 500g (only WoW is used on it along with minor things) all other program files are stashed on other hard drives.
When posting a thread of troubleshooting nature, it's customary to include your full system's specs. Please list the specs to your build like so:
CPU:
CPU cooler:
Motherboard:
Ram:
SSD/HDD:
GPU:
PSU:
Chassis:
OS:
Monitor:
include the age of the PSU apart from it's make and model. BIOS version for your motherboard at this moment of time.

Did you remove all GPU drivers(Intel, AMD and Nvidia) in Safe Mode using DDU, then manually installing the latest GPU driver sourced from Nvidia's support site in an elevated command, i.e, Right click installer>Run as Administrator?

 

[darkknightrasil]

I've had my PC sice a year after the 3080 was released i believe it will be 4 years later this year.
CPU:
Intel Core I9 10900K 3.70 GHz
Motherboard: ROG Maximus XII Hero
RAM: DDR4 32GB (2 sticks 16x2) Can expand to 2 additional slots
Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080
Hard Drive: SSD Evo 500g (only WoW is used on it along with minor things) all other program files are stashed on other hard drives.
When posting a thread of troubleshooting nature, it's customary to include your full system's specs. Please list the specs to your build like so:
CPU:
CPU cooler:
Motherboard:
Ram:
SSD/HDD:
GPU:
PSU:
Chassis:
OS:
Monitor:
include the age of the PSU apart from it's make and model. BIOS version for your motherboard at this moment of time.

Did you remove all GPU drivers(Intel, AMD and Nvidia) in Safe Mode using DDU, then manually installing the latest GPU driver sourced from Nvidia's support site in an elevated command, i.e, Right click installer>Run as Administrator?

i edited my post thank you for the update.
The original PSU for my PC had to be replaced due to needing a stronger PSU. The initial one I had bought was a Seasonic Focus Plus 750 Gold SSR-750FX 750W 80+ Gold ATX12V but was not able to keep up with my pc.
I have not tried to remove all GPU Drivers in safe mode.

CPU: Intel Core I9 10900K 3.70 GHz
CPU cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 250W TDP CPU Cooler
Motherboard: ROG Maximus XII Hero
Ram: DDR4 32GB (2 sticks 16x2) Can expand to 2 additional slots
SSD/HDD: SSD Evo 500g
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080
PSU: CORSAIR RM1000X (2 or 3 years old)
Chassis: Thermaltake View 71 4-Sided Tempered Glass Vertical GPU Modular SPCC E-ATX Gaming Full Tower Computer Case with 2 Blue LED Ring Fan Pre-installed CA-1I7-00F1WN-00
OS: Windows 11
Monitor: x2
- Dell P2714H IPS 27-Inch Screen LED-Lit Monitor
- Dell Professional P2717H 27" Screen LED-Lit Monitor,Black

 

[logainofhades]

How full is that SSD? Start with running DDU to clear out Nvidia drivers, and install Nvidia driver 566.36. Make sure all addons are up to date. If that does nothing, you might want to try moving your WTF and Cache folders to a different location, to back them up, and start the game to let it create new ones.

 

[Gururu]

Was it running better before and only recently got slow?
Does it get better when you reduce graphical settings?
Have you tried disabling all the addons to see if it improves?

Your computer is really good, I am surprised by your results and agree something is amiss.

 

[beyondlogic]

Playing World of Warcraft, I have extreme delay and lag which should not be happening. I built m PC a few years ago after my last one died which lasted 11 years or so that should have been replaced a bit before that.

I am running on pretty much 10-30 FPS anywhere i go, last night in raid i ran at 10 Frames per second which froze my screen on bosses. wondering if it is something to do with my computer itself or if i need upgrade anything else. Issue tends to be in game only as I can stream videos on one screen while playing games even though the game is slow.

I've had my PC since a year after the 3080 was released i believe it will be 4 years later this year.
CPU:
Intel Core I9 10900K 3.70 GHz
Motherboard: ROG Maximus XII Hero
RAM: DDR4 32GB (2 sticks 16x2) Can expand to 2 additional slots
Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080
Hard Drive: SSD Evo 500g (only WoW is used on it along with minor things) all other program files are stashed on other hard drives.


I also have 2 monitors that are 8 and 7 years old if this is a cause for it.

Dell P2714H IPS 27-Inch Screen LED-Lit Monitor​

Dell Professional P2717H 27" Screen LED-Lit Monitor,Black
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

*UPDATED SPEC List:
CPU: Intel Core I9 10900K 3.70 GHz
CPU cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 250W TDP CPU Cooler
Motherboard: ROG Maximus XII Hero
Ram: DDR4 32GB (2 sticks 16x2) Can expand to 2 additional slots
SSD/HDD: SSD Evo 500g (only WoW is used on it along with minor things) all other programs/files are stashed on other hard drives total of 5.
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080
PSU: CORSAIR RM1000X
- Chassis: Thermaltake View 71 4-Sided Tempered Glass Vertical GPU Modular SPCC E-ATX Gaming Full Tower Computer Case with 2 Blue LED Ring Fan Pre-installed CA-1I7-00F1WN-00
OS: Windows 11
Monitor: x2 ( 8 and 7 year old monitors)
- Dell P2714H IPS 27-Inch Screen LED-Lit Monitor
- Dell Professional P2717H 27" Screen LED-Lit Monitor,Black


The original PSU for my PC had to be replaced due to needing a stronger PSU. The initial one I had bought was a Seasonic Focus Plus 750 Gold SSR-750FX 750W 80+ Gold ATX12V but was not able to keep up with my pc.

https://imgur.com/AuqdCkI

View: https://imgur.com/AuqdCkI

https://imgur.com/xQsDVrd

View: https://imgur.com/xQsDVrd

https://imgur.com/CWe6Rky

View: https://imgur.com/CWe6Rky

cpu is throttling

89c is extremely hot it could be clocking to high and hitting a 100c at intervials which could cause the freezing.

under extreme tweaker set a offset on your core voltage to negative - 0.050 leave cores to clock to whatever they want to all your doing is telling the cpu to pull power if you let the motherboard decide the core frequency it will clock as high as it can on that power. drop and a cooler chip may even clock higher.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV2x8FzNP1k


undervolting will not damage the cpu ( overclocking does all we are doing is dropping the power it can pull.)

you can go higher in the negatives i find doing about 0.1 is best as that removes 1 v just dont do anything to core clock let the board decide.


ive done this with ryzen 5900x and didnt lose any performance and it now keeps the cpu at 70c.
( im aware its a diffrent platform and cpu just a example of what undervolting can do.)

i used to hit close to 87c

 

[darkknightrasil]

decided to make a few updates. I doubled the ram to 64, got a new hard drive instead of using a 500g m.2 drive since it was always almost full and upgraded the CPU fan cooling unit to an AIO. I can see a 5-10 degree celcius drop. even after the upgrade still see same performance in raids.

CPU: Intel Core I9 10900K 3.70 GHz
CPU cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 250W TDP CPU Cooler
ROG RYUJIN III 360 ARGB Extreme (AIO)
Motherboard: ROG Maximus XII Hero
Ram: DDR4 32GB (2 sticks 16x2) Can expand to 2 additional slots
- DDR4 64GB (2 sticks 32x2) *UPGRADED)
SSD/HDD: SSD Evo 500g
SSD EVO M.3 900 2TB *UPGRADED(
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080
PSU: CORSAIR RM1000X (2 or 3 years old)
Chassis: Thermaltake View 71 4-Sided Tempered Glass Vertical GPU Modular SPCC E-ATX Gaming Full Tower Computer Case with 2 Blue LED Ring Fan Pre-installed CA-1I7-00F1WN-00
OS: Windows 11
Monitor: x2
- Dell P2714H IPS 27-Inch Screen LED-Lit Monitor
- Dell Professional P2717H 27" Screen LED-Lit Monitor,Black

 

[darkknightrasil]

Was it running better before and only recently got slow?
Does it get better when you reduce graphical settings?
Have you tried disabling all the addons to see if it improves?

Your computer is really good, I am surprised by your results and agree something is amiss.

even lowering the graphical settings it does not improve much. It has been a bit off since the last expansion possibly 3 years now from what it should be. I do get LUA errors i need to correct in game.

 

[darkknightrasil]

How full is that SSD? Start with running DDU to clear out Nvidia drivers, and install Nvidia driver 566.36. Make sure all addons are up to date. If that does nothing, you might want to try moving your WTF and Cache folders to a different location, to back them up, and start the game to let it create new ones.

SSD was always almost full with 50-100 gigs left. I had a 500g drive and wanted to always leave it empty but i did not think warcraft would take up soo much space. I bought a new one last week.

 

[logainofhades]

even lowering the graphical settings it does not improve much. It has been a bit off since the last expansion possibly 3 years now from what it should be. I do get LUA errors i need to correct in game.

Those are typically caused by out of date addons. I use the curseforge app to keep mine up to date. Bug sack and bug grabber will help you identify which addons are the problem, so you can disable them.

 

[darkknightrasil]

Those are typically caused by out of date addons. I use the curseforge app to keep mine up to date. Bug sack and bug grabber will help you identify which addons are the problem, so you can disable them.

tried disabling all addons and FPS was running at 35 FPS in the main town.
When i first built my PC 5 years ago i was at a solid 60 Frames per second without dropping at all, it never got any higher though.

 

[logainofhades]

Main towns always suck for FPS. Did you do the WTF and Cache file thing I mentioned earlier? Is XMP on for your ram? What speed did you have and what speed do you have now? Upgrading to 64gb was unnecessary.