Computer won't start

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I'm new to building computers, but thankfully I had a friend who was able to help me pick out all the parts and put it together. However, we are unable to get the computer to turn on. After plugging in the power and flipping the PCU switch the motherboard seems to get life(the Start, Reset, OC, etc) lights turn on, but nothing else in the system seems to receive power.

All these parts are brand new.
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Crosshair IV
Radeon HD 6970
Apevia Iceberg 680w
Hitachi 2tb Sata3
Pioneer 24x DVR-S19NBK
AMD Phenom II Black Edition 3.3Ghz 9.0MB Total Cache Socket AM3
Kingston DDR3 Hyper Blu 2x4Gig 1333


 

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So after reading through and working through the given link the computer is still unable to run. We even tried bread boarding and we weren't able to hear the beeps even with the small speaker that came with it.

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We tried replacing the PSU and it seems that it might have done the trick for now. However, we ran into a different problem. When the system is powered on it emits a continuous beep and the LED for CPU is red.
 

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After more research and fiddling we've discovered that it's giving us the 1 long 3 short beeps. The continuous beep is still present, but the LED CPU is no longer red though VGA and BOOT DEVICE now are.
 

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1 long and 3 short beeps is usually consistent with RAM failure. Try using one stick of RAM, in different slots and try both RAM sticks. As it could either be the slot or RAM module that has the problem.
 
You can breadboard and test in sections.

The following is an expansion of my troubleshooting tips in the breadboarding link in the "Cannot boot" thread.

I have tested the following beep patterns on Gigabyte, eVGA, and ECS motherboards. Other BIOS' may be different, but they all use a single short beep for a successful POST.

Breadboard - that will help isolate any kind of case problem you might have.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/262730-31-breadboarding

Breadboard with just motherboard, CPU & HSF, case speaker, and PSU.

Make sure you plug the CPU power cable in. The system will not boot without it.

I always breadboard a new build. It takes only a few minutes, and you know you are putting good parts in the case once you are finished.

You can turn on the PC by momentarily shorting the two pins that the case power switch goes to. You should hear a series of long, single beeps indicating memory problems. Silence indicates a problem with (in most likely order) the PSU, motherboard, or CPU. Remember, at this time, you do not have a graphics card installed so the load on your PSU will be reduced.

If no beeps:
Running fans and drives and motherboard LED's do not necessarily indicate a good PSU. In the absence of a single short beep, they also do not indicate that the system is booting.

At this point, you can sort of check the PSU. Try to borrow a known good PSU of around 550 - 600 watts. That will power just about any system with a single GPU. If you cannot do that, use a DMM to measure the voltages. Measure between the colored wires and either chassis ground or the black wires. Yellow wires should be 12 volts. Red wires: +5 volts, orange wires: +3.3 volts, blue wire : -12 volts, violet wire: 5 volts always on. Tolerances are +/- 5% except for the -12 volts which is +/- 10%.

The gray wire is really important. It should go from 0 to +5 volts when you turn the PSU on with the case switch. CPU needs this signal to boot.

You can turn on the PSU by completely disconnecting the PSU and using a paperclip or jumper wire to short the green wire to one of the neighboring black wires.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FWXgQSokF4&feature=youtube_gdata

A way that might be easier is to use the main power plug. Working from the back of the plug where the wires come out, use a bare paperclip to short between the green wire and one of the neighboring black wires. That will do the same thing with an installed PSU. It is also an easy way to bypass a questionable case power switch.

This checks the PSU under no load conditions, so it is not completely reliable. But if it can not pass this, it is dead. Then repeat the checks with the PSU plugged into the computer to put a load on the PSU.

If the system beeps:
If it looks like the PSU is good, install a memory stick. Boot. Beep pattern should change to one long and several short beeps indicating a missing graphics card.

Silence, long single beeps, or series of short beeps indicate a problem with the memory. If you get short beeps verify that the memory is in the appropriate motherboard slots.

Insert the video card and connect any necessary PCIe power connectors. Boot. At this point, the system should POST successfully (a single short beep). Notice that you do not need keyboard, mouse, monitor, or drives to successfully POST.
At this point, if the system doesn't work, it's either the video card or an inadequate PSU. Or rarely - the motherboard's PCIe interface.

Now start connecting the rest of the devices starting with the monitor, then keyboard and mouse, then the rest of the devices, testing after each step. It's possible that you can pass the POST with a defective video card. The POST routines can only check the video interface. It cannot check the internal parts of the video card.


Is the loud continuous beep coming from the motherboard speaker or the video card? If the video card, are any PCIe power plugs plugged in?

One long and three short may also indicate a failure of the video card.