Connecting VoIP to Home Phone Wiring

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Mitel Lurker wrote:

> My guess here is that Vonage is required -by state law- to provide "E" 911
> service in Rhode Island, otherwise you can bet your last dollar they
> wouldn't be doing it, because it's quite expensive to provide it.

Once they have mastered the technology, WHY is it "quite expensive"
please?


> I don't know what other states require it, not all do (yet), but perhaps
> Vonage service is not yet available in those "Mandatory E-911" states or
> else Vonage has been given a grace period.
>
> In article <1114384688.616966.107950@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>
> "BrianEWilliams" <sorry_no_email@yahoo.com> writes:
....
>>*Note - Customers in Rhode Island who activate dialing 911 will receive
>>an emergency calling service similar to E-911, which utilizes the E-911
>>call routing system and automatically displays your address and the
>>number you're calling from on the dispatchers terminal. This E-911
>>solution is only available to customers in Rhode Island who have
>>activated dialing 911. Vonage is working aggressively to provide this
>>solution in additional states before the end of 2005.
>></quote>
>
>
 
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"Dmitri(Cabling-Design.com)" <info_at_cabling-design_dot_com@foo.com> wrote
in message
> Never ever cancel the POTS line: you may need to call 911 one of those
> days. It is not going to work over VoIP. At least not for couple more
> years until they agree about how to implement it.

Oh please, get a grip. Any decent VoIP provider offers 911 service. But
honestly, what on earth did people DO before 911 with location info? Oh, I
know, they TOLD the people where they are! Imagine that! Sure, a 4 year
old calling in because Mommy took too many little helpers might be a
problem. Or a geezer dropping over from a heart attack but only able to
just... barely... call.. 911 might qualify. But please, life's full of edge
cases and yet reality soldiers on regardless.

If you're the panicking fool sort then by all means keep your land line.
Otherwise, make the switch and enjoy it's benefits.
 
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In article <wNednWYJ-ttjb_HfRVn-ow@comcast.com> Rick Merrill
<rick0.merrill@gmailNO.SPAMcom> writes:


>Once they have mastered the technology, WHY is it "quite expensive"
>please?

Not so expensive on an individual subscriber basis, but taken as a whole
it adds up quickly. There is a per-line charge plus a charge for database
updates, which you must provide on a timely basis when any of your
subscribers move, or new subscribers sign up or existing subs leave.

There is also the administrative nightmare of keeping your own database
accurate so that when you send updates to Intrado your customer has some
reasonable expectation of accuracy.

That 40¢ or so "911 service charge" that your traditional landline telco
tacks onto your monthly bill doesn't begin to cover their total expenses.
That's just the portion they're allowed to pass on.

Common myth is that all it takes to be in the telephone business is a
switch. The rude awakening comes later.

Remember not so terribly long ago when you occasionally heard about large
apartment complexes installing their own PBXs and getting into the phone
business? Not many of them still around, is there? It was a flash in the
pan. 911 legislation woke these guys up and the smart ones bailed.
 
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Rick Merrill wrote:
> burris wrote:
> ... I have SunRocket and my 911 works perfectly...yes, I
> > checked.
>
> Glad to here it. Can you share HOW you checked? (In MA I'd get
> in trouble if I just 'dialed it!')

I too have SunRocket. My system works well on all fronts, having been
checked. In addition, the technology is still advancing, so I can only
imagine it will get better as time passes.
 
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"David Floyd" <david@floyd.org.uk> wrote in message
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> In message of Thu, 21 Apr 2005, BrianEWilliams writes
> >I have POTS wired through the house. Is it simple to get my VoIP
> >service to use this wiring? The optimist in me says all I have to do
> >it turn off POTS, run a wire from the telephone jack on the VoIP
> >router, and plug it into a telephone wall jack. The realist in me says
> >this would be way too simple. Any thoughts?
> >
>
> Would it be a good idea to say which country you're in, then you might
> get the correct answer.
>
> I suspect you're in Wales, but you could be in Australia for all we
> know, and POTS systems in different countries vary.
>
> DF
 
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> "David Floyd" <david@floyd.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:k8PfcwMC66ZCFwd6@127.0.0.1...
> > In message of Thu, 21 Apr 2005, BrianEWilliams writes
> > >I have POTS wired through the house. Is it simple to get my VoIP
> > >service to use this wiring? The optimist in me says all I have to do
> > >it turn off POTS, run a wire from the telephone jack on the VoIP
> > >router, and plug it into a telephone wall jack. The realist in me says
> > >this would be way too simple. Any thoughts?
> > >
> >
> > Would it be a good idea to say which country you're in, then you might
> > get the correct answer.
> >
> > I suspect you're in Wales, but you could be in Australia for all we
> > know, and POTS systems in different countries vary.
> >
> > DF
>
>
 
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"Marc H.Popek" <LVMarc@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> COMBINE-A-LINE .. Imagine..1=2
>
>
> Ever wish you could use your favorite single-line telephone, answering
> machine, caller ID or PC Modem on TWO phone lines?.. Automatically?
>
> OR
>
> How about joining your VOIP port and the plain old (PSTN) telephone jack
> into a single handset?
>
> OR
>
> USE a CLT to join a card card acceptor and your single line telephone as
> well!
>
> OR
>
>
>
> see if anybody picks-up, on anotheer line trunk, after you are already in
a
> telco call???
>
> THEN...........................................
>
> Combine-A-Line (CLT) allows two separate calls from two different lines
to
> be directed to your single line telephone equipment or PC. Centralizing
and
> PROTECTING (SURGE PROTECTION INSIDE) your communication equipment for your
> home office or for the family.
>
> Combine-A-Line supports all services from your telephone company including
> Caller ID. It also has two line surge protectors to make sure that you are
> Protecting your equipment.
>
> Use combine-aline to automatically switch between VOIP and pots (rboc)
plain
> local line, hands free!.
>
> SECURITY of your calls are enhanced because the CLT displays if anybody
> picks -up the line after you are in a call! So, it has security features
> just in case someone is wire tapping or listens in after you are in a
call.
> The LED display will indicate any disruption to the line.
>
> Easy to use, No batteries or power supply, and no programming needed! Our
> re-sellers have reported that ..."elimination of the noisy and cumbersome
> power supply wires, reduces the Hum & Noise one hears then when connected
> to household power supplies"
>
> Automate and organize your telecommunications equipment and desktop wires
> with Combine-A-Line.
>
>
> USE BUY NOW and get FREE SHIPPING OPTION
>
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>
>
> Add a second CLT to your auction win for only 13.99.
>
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>
> Link to instructional video
>
http://vincent.lemoine1.free.fr/tel2box/cut%20clt%206b%206%206%20for%20windo
> ws%20media.wmv
>
> Answers from previous customers:
>
> A: this unit has many uses. it can combine two analog (regular plain
Jane
> telephone lines) into a common point. This allows you to create a dual
line
> telephone suite(telephone, answering. modem) etc for way less than the
cost
> of a two line phone and two line answering machines and modems don't
> commonly exist. Further, VOIP has become very popular and users gain
> tremendous long distance rates rates, however they don't have a "local
> presence" and often back up the voip with a single plain Jane telephone
> line. the clt will join voip and telco to a signal automatic port for the
> ultimate convience! Plus no power supply or batteries to clutter your
> desktop! Plus all port surge protected to protect you equipment! plus two
> additional universal (I/O) line 1 and line 2 dedicated ports... enabling
an
> even wider array of connection schemes.
>
> A: S&H outside CONUSA (48 USA states) costs more. The tariff diferene
> varies based on exact location. The range is about $1.00 to Canda and
> Mexico, and Hawaii. And is $3.00 to most of EU and Middle eastern
locations.
>
> A: In coming activity is automatically routed to the auto output port.
>
> A: Out bound activity is automatic. Users can mnaully re-direct any cal
and
> visually confirm which line is in use by observing the LED indication.
>
> A: The unit can be wired into a single telephone jack with the lines (four
> wire connectors) OR there are two additonal , inversal jacks that enable
> physical connnections to different phone access port. For example line 1
on
> a VOIP modem and line2 to your local Telco jack. The CLT can join any two
> lines and provide a single convient access point.
>
> A: The CLT does not require batteries or wall power supplies.
>
>
> "BrianEWilliams" <sorry_no_email@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1114087700.544646.15310@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > I have POTS wired through the house. Is it simple to get my VoIP
> > service to use this wiring? The optimist in me says all I have to do
> > it turn off POTS, run a wire from the telephone jack on the VoIP
> > router, and plug it into a telephone wall jack. The realist in me says
> > this would be way too simple. Any thoughts?
> >
>
>