Hi, I want to start live streaming gaming (fortnite, rocket league, etc.) however currently only have a Mac, which obviously can't handle it. I honestly know nothing about PC's so wouldn't know where to start building one. Does anyone know of any pre-built PC's that could handle this, or guide me towards the parts I need in order to build one. Thanks.
Barty1884
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In strictly Gaming, Intel does take a slight "win" more often than not............ but, that comes at a premium over the 2600X.
For a comparable 6core/12thread chip, you're looking at another 120quid.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor (£319.00 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £319.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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When, in gaming/streaming performance, you'd be extremely hard pressed to spot a difference.
The 2700X, jumping to a 8core/16thread chip doesn't make much sense at all. A 2600X provides more than enough horsepower for what you want.
For a comparable 6core/12thread chip, you're looking at another 120quid.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor (£319.00 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £319.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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When, in gaming/streaming performance, you'd be extremely hard pressed to spot a difference.
The 2700X, jumping to a 8core/16thread chip doesn't make much sense at all. A 2600X provides more than enough horsepower for what you want.
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The 2600X is more than capable for what you want. While performance can always be improved (at least theoretically), anything more powerful and the performance gains are going to be disproportionate to the cost.
Yes, an i7-8700K might net you a couple more FPS while gaming/streaming..... but if that's (for arguments sake) 105FPS vs 100FPS, that's 5% gains (in a negligible FPS range) for +77% more money.
I would typically recommend the R5 2600 rather than the "X" variant but, given you don't want to OC, then the higher out of the box clocks are worth it.
If you're not buying immediately, the B450 motherboards are expected to land this month - should give you a cheaper motherboard, while not taking away any of the features you want/need.
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/gigabyte-amd-b450-motherboard-specs-release-date,37459.html
Yes, an i7-8700K might net you a couple more FPS while gaming/streaming..... but if that's (for arguments sake) 105FPS vs 100FPS, that's 5% gains (in a negligible FPS range) for +77% more money.
I would typically recommend the R5 2600 rather than the "X" variant but, given you don't want to OC, then the higher out of the box clocks are worth it.
If you're not buying immediately, the B450 motherboards are expected to land this month - should give you a cheaper motherboard, while not taking away any of the features you want/need.
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/gigabyte-amd-b450-motherboard-specs-release-date,37459.html
Thanks, I really wanted to order the stuff tonight/tomorrow. I don't know anything about BIOS, will it be easy to set up with the motherboard I have selected? The 1070ti doesn't have a back plate, does this make a difference?
Also, is the list I have provided all that I need. For example I don't need any extra fans for the case, etc?
Also, is the list I have provided all that I need. For example I don't need any extra fans for the case, etc?
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That timeline still totally works, you're just limited to X470 for 100% out of the box compatibility.
In the grand scheme of things, B450 might save you 40quid or so..... hardly blowing the budget :lol:
The BIOS, for the most part, should be as you need it on a modern board. You'll need to enable XMP for the higher RAM speeds.
I'll take a look back for fans, don't rememebr the case you chose.
The Enthoo M Pro includes a single 140mm in the rear (exhaust)
It supports additional fans 2x 120mm or 140mm in the front (3x 120mm if you remove the drive cage) and 3x 120mm or 2x 140mm in the top.
I would opt for 2x front intake, and keep the stock exhaust.
A couple of 140mm be quiet! Pure Wings 2 would be solid options for a cheap price - although there's no PWN control (so speeds are only controlled by modifying voltage in the BIOS).
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/4GsKHx/be-quiet-case-fan-bl047
The PWN variants are a little more expensive:
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/wj8H99/be-quiet-pure-wings-2-140-612-cfm-140mm-fan-bl040
Noctua's options are great, but not the most aesthetically pleasing.
Redux:
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/8r9KHx/noctua-case-fan-nfp14sredux1500pwm
Their Chromax line is a bit more universally appealing on a looks-front, but they do get expensive.
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/sWM323/noctua-nf-a14-pwm-chromaxblackswap-825-cfm-140mm-fan-nf-a14-pwm-chromaxblackswap
In the grand scheme of things, B450 might save you 40quid or so..... hardly blowing the budget :lol:
The BIOS, for the most part, should be as you need it on a modern board. You'll need to enable XMP for the higher RAM speeds.
I'll take a look back for fans, don't rememebr the case you chose.
The Enthoo M Pro includes a single 140mm in the rear (exhaust)
It supports additional fans 2x 120mm or 140mm in the front (3x 120mm if you remove the drive cage) and 3x 120mm or 2x 140mm in the top.
I would opt for 2x front intake, and keep the stock exhaust.
A couple of 140mm be quiet! Pure Wings 2 would be solid options for a cheap price - although there's no PWN control (so speeds are only controlled by modifying voltage in the BIOS).
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/4GsKHx/be-quiet-case-fan-bl047
The PWN variants are a little more expensive:
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/wj8H99/be-quiet-pure-wings-2-140-612-cfm-140mm-fan-bl040
Noctua's options are great, but not the most aesthetically pleasing.
Redux:
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/8r9KHx/noctua-case-fan-nfp14sredux1500pwm
Their Chromax line is a bit more universally appealing on a looks-front, but they do get expensive.
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/sWM323/noctua-nf-a14-pwm-chromaxblackswap-825-cfm-140mm-fan-nf-a14-pwm-chromaxblackswap
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Building a computer is really easy. newegg has a 3 part instructional video that's pretty helpful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_56kyib-Ls
Keep in mind that you'll need to purchase windows along with those parts. If you really need to save money you probably could cut the costs on some things without loosing TOO much performance.
As far as fans go, you want at least 2 or 3, but you don't need 5 or 6 or anything
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_56kyib-Ls
Keep in mind that you'll need to purchase windows along with those parts. If you really need to save money you probably could cut the costs on some things without loosing TOO much performance.
As far as fans go, you want at least 2 or 3, but you don't need 5 or 6 or anything
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Really depends on the ambient temps, the components you run & the case you choose.
For that kind of hardware, yes... I'd say at least 1x intake & 1x exhaust. preferably 2x intake
As far as feeling out of your depth, that's pretty normal while planning out a first build - we've all been there.
The Newegg video CTurbo linked is a solid reference, and PaulsHardware (the same guy from the NewEgg video) has a Ryzen specific build, so you can address the difference in socket etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFyhn6seoow&list=PLRnHcRQUxuoeQM4-llcMNXTakKZcAAyB6
Ultimately, provided you take your time, read the manuals, don't force anything and stop to ask questions if something isn't going well, you'll be fine.
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I'll leave any tweaks to CT - as I've played around with a few different builds and can't come up with too much that'll save too much money (other than dropping to a 1070 or something)..... So hopefully a second set of eyes will help you out there.
As for NewEgg, the retailer themselves is very reputable - but it's also a marketplace with other sellers. Much like Amazon/eBay, items shipped/sold by the retailer are one thing; third parties using their platform is another.
As a resource with things like the video linked though, they're definitely reputable.
As for NewEgg, the retailer themselves is very reputable - but it's also a marketplace with other sellers. Much like Amazon/eBay, items shipped/sold by the retailer are one thing; third parties using their platform is another.
As a resource with things like the video linked though, they're definitely reputable.
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The GPU is from Palit. A-Data is for the memory.
The 1070TI from Palit is more on the budget end, absolutely but, with adequate airflow in the case, the stock cooler is sufficient to keep it in check (albeit a little noisy).
GPU boost 3.0 will OC the card automatically if there are temp/power headroom available. Chances are, you probably won't see too much of that -- but even at stock clocks, it's fit for purpose.
Realistically, you could push on to a beefier/more expensive cooling solution, but you start to chip away at the price to performance "value".
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/jvwqqs/evga-geforce-gtx-1070-ti-8gb-sc-gaming-acx-30-black-edition-video-card-08g-p4-5671-kr
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/62KhP6/asus-geforce-gtx-1070-ti-8gb-rog-strix-video-card-rog-strix-gtx1070ti-a8g-gaming
Another 20-50 quid which could be justified on the EVGA card, but by the time you're considering 440-450 for a 1070TI, it becomes really tough as you're in GTX 1080 price territory.
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/V4M323/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1080-8gb-windforce-oc-8g-video-card-gv-n1080wf3oc-8gd
The 1070TI from Palit is more on the budget end, absolutely but, with adequate airflow in the case, the stock cooler is sufficient to keep it in check (albeit a little noisy).
GPU boost 3.0 will OC the card automatically if there are temp/power headroom available. Chances are, you probably won't see too much of that -- but even at stock clocks, it's fit for purpose.
Realistically, you could push on to a beefier/more expensive cooling solution, but you start to chip away at the price to performance "value".
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/jvwqqs/evga-geforce-gtx-1070-ti-8gb-sc-gaming-acx-30-black-edition-video-card-08g-p4-5671-kr
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/62KhP6/asus-geforce-gtx-1070-ti-8gb-rog-strix-video-card-rog-strix-gtx1070ti-a8g-gaming
Another 20-50 quid which could be justified on the EVGA card, but by the time you're considering 440-450 for a 1070TI, it becomes really tough as you're in GTX 1080 price territory.
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/V4M323/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1080-8gb-windforce-oc-8g-video-card-gv-n1080wf3oc-8gd
So if I get 2 of these https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/4GsKHx/be-quiet-case-fan-bl047 it should be ok? I really don't want to add much more money on as by the time I've bought a keyboard & mouse it's going to add up. But then again I don't want to build something that's cheap but lags.
I can get the 1080 cheaper here https://www.scan.co.uk/products/8gb-gigabyte-gtx-1080-oc-windforce3-oc-gddr5x-vr-ready-graphics-card-2560-core-1632-mhz-gpu-1771-mhz?gclid=CjwKCAjwp7baBRBIEiwAPtjwxABPOAuwX5VmPq3IDbYKsl7CRAEcWQ2Ts2X3IOT8Iq9NHvLPOF3z8xoCcQIQAvD_BwE would you say it's worth it for £50 extra. Will the 2600X and motherboard still be good with it?
I can get the 1080 cheaper here https://www.scan.co.uk/products/8gb-gigabyte-gtx-1080-oc-windforce3-oc-gddr5x-vr-ready-graphics-card-2560-core-1632-mhz-gpu-1771-mhz?gclid=CjwKCAjwp7baBRBIEiwAPtjwxABPOAuwX5VmPq3IDbYKsl7CRAEcWQ2Ts2X3IOT8Iq9NHvLPOF3z8xoCcQIQAvD_BwE would you say it's worth it for £50 extra. Will the 2600X and motherboard still be good with it?
So I've made another part list. Will these fans be ok because they're 120mm instead of 140?
As the Palit 1070ti doesn't look very good would you rather get this 1080 8gb or a better 1070ti?
I don't want to go over £1400 and have got to get a keyboard and mouse in that budget as well.
I really wanted a second monitor, but it doesn't look like I'm going to be able to afford it, this may be a stupid question but there's no way you can use a Mac as a second screen?
PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/6DH8jy
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/6DH8jy/by_merchant/
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor (£182.39 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - X470 AORUS ULTRA GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard (£125.99 @ Aria PC)
Memory: ADATA - XPG Z1 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£149.56 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£84.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£50.39 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB WINDFORCE OC 8G Video Card (£454.47 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M ATX Mid Tower Case (£59.91 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£67.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case Fan: BitFenix - Spectre 43.5 CFM 120mm Fan (£3.49 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case Fan: BitFenix - Spectre 43.5 CFM 120mm Fan (£3.49 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Monitor: AOC - G2460FQ 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor (£169.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Total: £1352.66
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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As the Palit 1070ti doesn't look very good would you rather get this 1080 8gb or a better 1070ti?
I don't want to go over £1400 and have got to get a keyboard and mouse in that budget as well.
I really wanted a second monitor, but it doesn't look like I'm going to be able to afford it, this may be a stupid question but there's no way you can use a Mac as a second screen?
PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/6DH8jy
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/6DH8jy/by_merchant/
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor (£182.39 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - X470 AORUS ULTRA GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard (£125.99 @ Aria PC)
Memory: ADATA - XPG Z1 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£149.56 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£84.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£50.39 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB WINDFORCE OC 8G Video Card (£454.47 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M ATX Mid Tower Case (£59.91 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£67.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case Fan: BitFenix - Spectre 43.5 CFM 120mm Fan (£3.49 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case Fan: BitFenix - Spectre 43.5 CFM 120mm Fan (£3.49 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Monitor: AOC - G2460FQ 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor (£169.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Total: £1352.66
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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I would opt for a 1080 over a "better" 1070TI....
Those fans will work.... but they are really on the cheap end (price and performance). Functional, absolutely though.
Where are you located, specifically? (Town/City)....
There may be a local computer shop, who could update the BIOS of a B350 or X370 motherboard for you..... saving a solid 50quid or more (vs an X470)
With some tweaks, including dropping to a 2600 (nonX) and changing the case + motherboard, you could get nearer 1200.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor (£148.74 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AX370M-DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£59.98 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: ADATA - XPG Z1 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£149.56 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£84.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£50.39 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB WINDFORCE OC 8G Video Card (£454.47 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox 5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£34.99 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£74.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case Fan: BitFenix - Spectre 43.5 CFM 120mm Fan (£3.49 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case Fan: BitFenix - Spectre 43.5 CFM 120mm Fan (£3.49 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Monitor: AOC - G2460FQ 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor (£169.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Total: £1235.08
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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BUT, that board will need a BIOS update....... so maybe 10-20quid at a local shop to update it for you (unless you can buy one locally, and they'll update it included in the price).
Those fans will work.... but they are really on the cheap end (price and performance). Functional, absolutely though.
Where are you located, specifically? (Town/City)....
There may be a local computer shop, who could update the BIOS of a B350 or X370 motherboard for you..... saving a solid 50quid or more (vs an X470)
With some tweaks, including dropping to a 2600 (nonX) and changing the case + motherboard, you could get nearer 1200.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor (£148.74 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AX370M-DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£59.98 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: ADATA - XPG Z1 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£149.56 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£84.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£50.39 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB WINDFORCE OC 8G Video Card (£454.47 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox 5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£34.99 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£74.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case Fan: BitFenix - Spectre 43.5 CFM 120mm Fan (£3.49 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case Fan: BitFenix - Spectre 43.5 CFM 120mm Fan (£3.49 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Monitor: AOC - G2460FQ 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor (£169.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Total: £1235.08
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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BUT, that board will need a BIOS update....... so maybe 10-20quid at a local shop to update it for you (unless you can buy one locally, and they'll update it included in the price).
Ok, thank you. Do you have an opinion on this bundle? https://www.overclockers.co.uk/amd-promo-bundle-amd-ryzen-7-2700x-gigabyte-x370-gaming-k7-team-group-ram-free-480gb-ssd-bu-01g-am.html#t=a3
If I was to pair it with https://www.overclockers.co.uk/kfa2-geforce-gtx-1070ti-ex-8192mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-09q-kf.html ?
If I was to pair it with https://www.overclockers.co.uk/kfa2-geforce-gtx-1070ti-ex-8192mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-09q-kf.html ?
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The bundle itself is solid, and should have the BIOS update for the board....... but it's overkill & overpriced for what you need.
CPU, MB, RAM and SSD for 600quid or so
Vs. even the initial build (2600X, X470, 16GB and the SSD) at 500 or so.
It's definitely a nice bundle.... but I think your budget starts creeping up?
As for the GPU, I don't know much about KFA2 - they're pretty much UK/EU exclusive, and I haven't seen too many reviews, so commenting on it vs the Palit card or anything else, I can't really.
I would image it'll be much the same as the Palit dual, at worst. A little noisy, but sufficient to cool a 1070TI at stock speeds.
CPU, MB, RAM and SSD for 600quid or so
Vs. even the initial build (2600X, X470, 16GB and the SSD) at 500 or so.
It's definitely a nice bundle.... but I think your budget starts creeping up?
As for the GPU, I don't know much about KFA2 - they're pretty much UK/EU exclusive, and I haven't seen too many reviews, so commenting on it vs the Palit card or anything else, I can't really.
I would image it'll be much the same as the Palit dual, at worst. A little noisy, but sufficient to cool a 1070TI at stock speeds.
Should the 2700x be more compatible with future games meaning I don't have to change the CPU for a while?
I've added it up and it comes to £1368 but then I've got to add fans, OS and keyboard & mouse on top, so I guess it's too much. Would you recommend getting Windows for cheap off eBay, just because it would save a lot of money?
I've added it up and it comes to £1368 but then I've got to add fans, OS and keyboard & mouse on top, so I guess it's too much. Would you recommend getting Windows for cheap off eBay, just because it would save a lot of money?
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Impossible to say for sure, but my best guess would be a 2600X/2700X will be long obsolete by the time games require 6-8+ cores alone. (Games are barely using >4 cores currently)
Do they have a bundle with either the 2600 or 2600X + B350 motherboard? Assuming they're confirming the BIOS is updated, that might be a worthwhile route to pursue.
I would not recommend the eBay (or similar) "cheap" keys. At best, they're "grey" legally - can still be deactivated. At worst, they're purchases legally with stolen credit cards - so will almost certainly be deactivated. Buy from a legit source (authorized retailer/etailer) or MS directly.
Do they have a bundle with either the 2600 or 2600X + B350 motherboard? Assuming they're confirming the BIOS is updated, that might be a worthwhile route to pursue.
I would not recommend the eBay (or similar) "cheap" keys. At best, they're "grey" legally - can still be deactivated. At worst, they're purchases legally with stolen credit cards - so will almost certainly be deactivated. Buy from a legit source (authorized retailer/etailer) or MS directly.
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Ok here are a few recommendations
AMD version-
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7GHz 8-Core Processor (£269.94 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: MSI - X470 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard (£119.98 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: ADATA - XPG Z1 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£149.56 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£84.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£50.39 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Palit - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB GameRock Video Card (£329.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£44.99 @ Novatech)
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£74.99 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£79.96 @ Ebuyer)
Case Fan: BitFenix - Spectre 43.5 CFM 120mm Fan (£3.49 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case Fan: BitFenix - Spectre 43.5 CFM 120mm Fan (£3.49 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Monitor: AOC - G2460FQ 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor (£169.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Total: £1381.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Intel version-
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor (£269.99 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock - H370 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£84.99 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£128.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£84.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£50.39 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Palit - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB GameRock Video Card (£329.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£44.99 @ Novatech)
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£74.99 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£79.96 @ Ebuyer)
Case Fan: BitFenix - Spectre 43.5 CFM 120mm Fan (£3.49 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case Fan: BitFenix - Spectre 43.5 CFM 120mm Fan (£3.49 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Monitor: AOC - G2460FQ 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor (£169.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Total: £1326.25
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Cheap version-
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor (£148.74 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard (£69.99 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: ADATA - XPG Z1 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£149.56 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£56.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£34.74 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Palit - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB GameRock Video Card (£329.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£44.99 @ Novatech)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£65.79 @ Alza)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£79.96 @ Ebuyer)
Case Fan: BitFenix - Spectre 43.5 CFM 120mm Fan (£3.49 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case Fan: BitFenix - Spectre 43.5 CFM 120mm Fan (£3.49 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Monitor: AOC - G2460FQ 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor (£169.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Total: £1157.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-18 23:35 BST+0100
Notes: For 1080p, you don't really need anything more than a 1070. If you're chasing 144hz, stronger cpu cores will help better than a stronger gpu. For streaming, the more threads the better so I would rather have a 2700x + 1070 than a 2600x + 1080. The reverse would be true should you expect to be gaming at 1440p or 4k any time soon. I pure gaming, Intel is better, but since you're wanting to stream too, AMD makes for a great alternative.
I added windows to the partlist since it's necessary so they builds LOOK more expensive because of that. It's not like you can choose not to have windows. If you have a means of getting windows for free then great.
AMD version-
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7GHz 8-Core Processor (£269.94 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: MSI - X470 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard (£119.98 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: ADATA - XPG Z1 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£149.56 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£84.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£50.39 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Palit - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB GameRock Video Card (£329.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£44.99 @ Novatech)
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£74.99 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£79.96 @ Ebuyer)
Case Fan: BitFenix - Spectre 43.5 CFM 120mm Fan (£3.49 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case Fan: BitFenix - Spectre 43.5 CFM 120mm Fan (£3.49 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Monitor: AOC - G2460FQ 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor (£169.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Total: £1381.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-18 23:34 BST+0100
Intel version-
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor (£269.99 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock - H370 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£84.99 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£128.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£84.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£50.39 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Palit - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB GameRock Video Card (£329.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£44.99 @ Novatech)
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£74.99 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£79.96 @ Ebuyer)
Case Fan: BitFenix - Spectre 43.5 CFM 120mm Fan (£3.49 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case Fan: BitFenix - Spectre 43.5 CFM 120mm Fan (£3.49 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Monitor: AOC - G2460FQ 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor (£169.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Total: £1326.25
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-18 23:35 BST+0100
Cheap version-
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor (£148.74 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard (£69.99 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: ADATA - XPG Z1 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£149.56 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£56.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£34.74 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Palit - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB GameRock Video Card (£329.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£44.99 @ Novatech)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£65.79 @ Alza)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£79.96 @ Ebuyer)
Case Fan: BitFenix - Spectre 43.5 CFM 120mm Fan (£3.49 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case Fan: BitFenix - Spectre 43.5 CFM 120mm Fan (£3.49 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Monitor: AOC - G2460FQ 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor (£169.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Total: £1157.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-18 23:35 BST+0100
Notes: For 1080p, you don't really need anything more than a 1070. If you're chasing 144hz, stronger cpu cores will help better than a stronger gpu. For streaming, the more threads the better so I would rather have a 2700x + 1070 than a 2600x + 1080. The reverse would be true should you expect to be gaming at 1440p or 4k any time soon. I pure gaming, Intel is better, but since you're wanting to stream too, AMD makes for a great alternative.
I added windows to the partlist since it's necessary so they builds LOOK more expensive because of that. It's not like you can choose not to have windows. If you have a means of getting windows for free then great.
CTurbo
Pizza Monster
- Aug 27, 2013
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Bonus build for if you really wanted to get the best possible within your max budget
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor (£308.40 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Asus - Prime Z370-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£150.35 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: ADATA - XPG Z1 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£149.56 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£56.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£34.74 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Palit - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB Dual Video Card (£394.92 @ Laptops Direct)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£44.99 @ Novatech)
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£74.99 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£79.96 @ Ebuyer)
Case Fan: BitFenix - Spectre 43.5 CFM 120mm Fan (£3.49 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case Fan: BitFenix - Spectre 43.5 CFM 120mm Fan (£3.49 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Monitor: AOC - G2460FQ 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor (£169.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Total: £1471.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-18 23:39 BST+0100
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor (£308.40 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Asus - Prime Z370-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£150.35 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: ADATA - XPG Z1 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£149.56 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£56.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£34.74 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Palit - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB Dual Video Card (£394.92 @ Laptops Direct)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£44.99 @ Novatech)
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£74.99 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£79.96 @ Ebuyer)
Case Fan: BitFenix - Spectre 43.5 CFM 120mm Fan (£3.49 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case Fan: BitFenix - Spectre 43.5 CFM 120mm Fan (£3.49 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Monitor: AOC - G2460FQ 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor (£169.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Total: £1471.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-18 23:39 BST+0100
Barty1884
Retired Moderator
- Apr 16, 2015
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Good find on the 1070 CT! I couldn't anything better than 230-240 for a 6GB 1060, 350-360 for a 1070, 390 for a 1070TI.
For the gaming + streaming aspect though, isn't a 2700X waaay overkill?
Using Fornite as an example:
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fortnite-best-performance-benchmarks,5541-6.html
So, while it's not totally linear, isn't there essentially anywhere from 6-10 cores/threads available for the streaming aspect?
For the gaming + streaming aspect though, isn't a 2700X waaay overkill?
Using Fornite as an example:
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fortnite-best-performance-benchmarks,5541-6.html
So, while it's not totally linear, isn't there essentially anywhere from 6-10 cores/threads available for the streaming aspect?
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