Continuous first boot failure

[Gartix]

Hi guys,I tried really hard to find the answer before I will ask for help,but after two days I am really desperate. I finnish my first build with components what I was saving money anddreaming for really long time and I just cannot get into the bios.To understand my case,I never before build some PC or something,so my experience are still poor,but I tried to learn and do it properly.
But if I am pressing DELETE or not,the result is still the same,monitor without signal,and nothing happened.
My build:
monitor DELL P2415Q 24"
i7 6700K
ASUS Sabertooth Z170 S
Crucial balistix 16-16-16 2400MHz 4*4GB
ASUS STRIX 1060 6GB Gaming
HDD-WD Red 2TB, SSD-SAMSUNG 850 PRO 256GB
PSU Enermax Platimax 600W and all in Thermaltake V51
-so I disconnected all parts,I leave at PC just board with CPU and 1 stick of ram in correct position from manual
I restart the RTC ram with shorti-circuit,also tried with CMOS battery out of the board. and only what change with this is that before from 5 LEDS on board was on only the PSU,now thez are all lightning,I dont now whats happened,but this change.
I checked all connection,even I took off and check all parts from motherboard,and all looks just fine,
I connect monitor to VGA then to motherboard,whith cables what I get with MON (2 cables) and nothing,I tried to setup the RAM timming with RAM OK button,but result is still the same...mon shows me "NO DP CABLE"
Its there any other shortcuit what can I use while booting system or its only pressing "DELETE"?
also other question,I cannot find if ist there latest bios or no nowhere,but if not its possible just download it at other PC to USB and then plug in to my? or it will be just still stuck without booting anything ?!I just dont see any way to fix it for two days,and its killing meee

 

[R_1]

did you plug the speaker into the motherboard?
Are you getting any beep codes?
have you tried to remove the motherboard from the case and try to boot outside of the case? (floating the motherboard) could be shorting against the case and stopping the boot.

 

[Agam3mn0n]

Ok... The first piece of advice I can recommend, is to not refer to a keyboard control command as a short circuit. If you are pressing the delete key to enter the bios, then say so. The reason is because a PC is an electrical device and stating that you have 'short circuited' something makes those of us think that you have sabotaged your PC deliberately.

1.We understand that your PC is not booting. BUT is it actually starting at all? Have all the front panel cables been connected, those related to your case's power switch and speaker? Can you confirm that the speaker is connected?

2. When you switch on your PC, you mentioned that nothing is being displayed on your screen, but is there a beeping coming from the computer? When it comes to early startup problems (those that occur before the computer is ready to start even the video) the PC Speaker can replay a number of error codes in the form of a number of beeps. Can you tell us if this is happening?

3. What power connectors have you plugged into the motherboard? There are usually up to three that you can attach, the first is the main power cable the largest connector supplied by your PSU. Then there is an additional 8 pin square power connector that can be used to supply additional energy to the board, in a few configurations there may be two of those or a splittable 8 pin that separates to two 4's. What have you connected to your board at present?

4. I'd like to see an opinion on the PSU and whether it is sufficient for delivering power to your build, you may need a larger supply, but you'd need to confirm what components were left connected to the PC. This includes whether or not you have left Hard drives connected to the PC AND/OR the PSU. Disconnect them all and leave the following... 1 Stick of RAM, your CPU & its cooling system (Fan cooler or liquid cooler), your Graphics card, connect power to these devices and only these devices, Including the Graphics Card. Then try to start the PC. Ensure your monitor/display is connected to the Graphics card.

5.If you are not getting anything on your display/monitor, then you will not be able to deal with the BIOS.

6. This may sound obvious, but I have seen this done personally! Have you used the case/motherboard stands that are supplied with your case? these are little hexagonal screw-in spacers that hold the motherboard away from the surface of the case to prevent it from... 'Short circuiting' I have seen in person what some new PC builders had done by not using them and it wound up to be one VERY expensive mistake.

 

[Gartix]

did you plug the speaker into the motherboard?
Are you getting any beep codes?
have you tried to remove the motherboard from the case and try to boot outside of the case? (floating the motherboard) could be shorting against the case and stopping the boot.

yes there is the speaker and its just one short signal manual to the motherboard says that is -VGA detected or Quick boot set to disabled or no keyboard detected.
keyboard should be fine,because I can restart PC with ctrl+alt+delete
but how to set up the quick boot to enabled I have no idea,or this one blib just say it to me,yes you have a graphic card?
And about this shorting,my motherboard stays nice in same distance from case all sides,and there in case was preinstaled the hexagonal screws so do you think it can shorting anyway if they are there?!

 

[Gartix]

Ok... The first piece of advice I can recommend, is to not refer to a keyboard control command as a short circuit. If you are pressing the delete key to enter the bios, then say so. The reason is because a PC is an electrical device and stating that you have 'short circuited' something makes those of us think that you have sabotaged your PC deliberately.

1.We understand that your PC is not booting. BUT is it actually starting at all? Have all the front panel cables been connected, those related to your case's power switch and speaker? Can you confirm that the speaker is connected?

2. When you switch on your PC, you mentioned that nothing is being displayed on your screen, but is there a beeping coming from the computer? When it comes to early startup problems (those that occur before the computer is ready to start even the video) the PC Speaker can replay a number of error codes in the form of a number of beeps. Can you tell us if this is happening?

3. What power connectors have you plugged into the motherboard? There are usually up to three that you can attach, the first is the main power cable the largest connector supplied by your PSU. Then there is an additional 8 pin square power connector that can be used to supply additional energy to the board, in a few configurations there may be two of those or a splittable 8 pin that separates to two 4's. What have you connected to your board at present?

4. I'd like to see an opinion on the PSU and whether it is sufficient for delivering power to your build, you may need a larger supply, but you'd need to confirm what components were left connected to the PC. This includes whether or not you have left Hard drives connected to the PC AND/OR the PSU. Disconnect them all and leave the following... 1 Stick of RAM, your CPU & its cooling system (Fan cooler or liquid cooler), your Graphics card, connect power to these devices and only these devices, Including the Graphics Card. Then try to start the PC. Ensure your monitor/display is connected to the Graphics card.

5.If you are not getting anything on your display/monitor, then you will not be able to deal with the BIOS.

6. This may sound obvious, but I have seen this done personally! Have you used the case/motherboard stands that are supplied with your case? these are little hexagonal screw-in spacers that hold the motherboard away from the surface of the case to prevent it from... 'Short circuiting' I have seen in person what some new PC builders had done by not using them and it wound up to be one VERY expensive mistake.

Hah sorry I meant shortcut.
So:
1.All PC run like its fine,front panel,all buttons,all fans,every lights,even blue ray mechanics,and speaker its connected,and PC start with one single "blip",that mean in manual -VGA detected or Quick boot set to disabled or no keyboard detected,but what with this I have no idea
2.The PSU its connected with 24 pin connector and additional 8 pin(in my case its splitted to 2 four pins its also connected to board.
3.I set up it like you said in point 4. but anywaz the result its the same like before,and hexagonal screws was preinstaled in case before,so its should be also fine...
4.And do you really think the 600w PSU its not enough for this PC?!

 

[R_1]

remove the video card and move the monitor to the motherboard. run the system off the intel GPU, see if you can get into the BIOS without the 1060 in the system.

 

[Agam3mn0n]

Hah sorry I meant shortcut.
So:
1.All PC run like its fine,front panel,all buttons,all fans,every lights,even blue ray mechanics,and speaker its connected,and PC start with one single "blip",that mean in manual -VGA detected or Quick boot set to disabled or no keyboard detected,but what with this I have no idea

OK. A single Beep is normal, that generally means that the computer has detected everything and is starting normally.

2.The PSU its connected with 24 pin connector and additional 8 pin(in my case its splitted to 2 four pins its also connected to board.

Excellent, the board & CPU should have sufficient power.

3.I set up it like you said in point 4. but anywaz the result its the same like before,and hexagonal screws was preinstaled in case before,so its should be also fine...

I agree. This is not likely to be causing an issue.

4.And do you really think the 600w PSU its not enough for this PC?!

I have done some checking, you should still have a little left over power in this build, so 600 watt should be sufficient.

So lets summarise, your computer is starting and if you are getting a short single beep when it starts, this is normal.
However you have mentioned that there is nothing being displayed on the screen. The computer seems to be picking up its Graphics card. so that leads to two possibilities on that side of things.
1. Your graphics card is potentially faulty (It happens even in new builds). If this is the case can you take it to a friend to test? Can you also take the card out and run the cable of your monitor to the one that's built in to the CPU?
2. You have not connected the 6pin power connector into the graphics card.
3. The graphics card is not inserted into the correct slot. (it should be in the first of the row of slots which start below the CPU).
4. Does your monitor have multiple inputs? If so can you check to ensure the right one is selected?
5. Does your monitor work properly? Can you test it with another computer too?

Ahh I see R_1 has beaten me to the 'take your Graphics card out option. ^_^ I'll leave it in my list too..

 

[Gartix]

My monitor has 2 cables one is conected to USB 2 port and secound one I tried to:
1.put in 1060 both of ports on card,
2.also I tried to connect it to motherboard to work with CPU graphic,
3.also I tried to pull off the 1060,but system does not boot so if card is faulty,I dont think yet,because PC should booth without card anyway,but it does not.
4.8pin connector is pluged in,LED lightning and 3 fans at 1060 works.
5.card is at first PCI slot under the CPU and its complete in,it cannot go more in
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-But,about what I am also thinking on motherboard is 5 leds,one is for power supply,this shoul be always on and other four is for CPU,RAM,VGA and BOOT DEVICE,and after the reset CMOS thez all always on and this should signal that is something wrong with this parst for the system,or something like that.
-but I am really lost now,because I am reading all the posts and forums,and everywhere its the same stuffs what I already check and did...

 

[Gartix]

and I forgot to write,that I also tested monitor with laptop connected with HDMI cable and it works just fine.
and also I tried to connect HDMI to PC,but no signal still,so I suppose problem will be with system not with monitor...
But after this weekend I really regret that I dont let the guys in the shop build my system 😀 but at least I will learn something,and this was my point at the beginning

 

[Tradesman1]

Have you benched it? Wrote a guide here;

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/faq/id-1753671/bench-troubleshooting.html

 

[Gartix]

Hi guys! sorry for late answer at first.
But finally its,working,thank you all for answers,but actually I am not sure what was really mistake,I just take it of all from the case and conect it on the table only with cables,and I was trying aroud everythink,till ist starts.But on my surprise only at HDMI cable..later after instaling all, was also display port working right.I am happy as f**k 😀 I try to bench it in 3DMARK today and in Fire Strike1,1 and with score 11466 it shows me better results like 83 percent of other computers,so I can live with that (I just dont now,how serious this tests are)

 

[Tradesman1]

Glad all is well, may just have been something loose, benching and checking each connection and standoffs, etc often clears things up 😉 Have fun !