Question Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO compatibilty

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theshield09

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Hello!

i need a new cooler because the temperature of my cpu is too high (more than 100 degrees!) in gaming.
I changed thermal paste and clean the case but nothing...
I think my cooler isn't work well!


Cpu is: AMD a8 5600k
Motherboard: MSI A78M-E35 (militar class 4)

Please could you tell me if the cooler in objetc is compatible... and if you want suggest some other cpu cooler... maybe better.

thank you in advance!
 
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I'd skip the EVO. It's a royal pain to get seated right, mainly due to the pathetic excuse of that 'X' bar used as a pressure mount for the entire 212 series, up til now. If you want that cheap budget CM, go for the newest Black RGB version, it has an upgraded mounting system (CM finally listened to backfeed) that mounts a lot like the fabled Noctua mount and is seriously better and easier.
 
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This is my case guys.

I have just 170 mm... is it enough?

anyway I asked for the 212 evo not for the low price... .my budget can be higher... not a problem.

Any other suggestion?

thank you
 
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Yes. Are you trying to just run the pc hot? The A8 5600k is a 100w cpu. It's heat output is comparable to an i7-4790k. And you are trying to make do with the smallest cpu cooler possible. For a Noctua, you should be looking at a minimum of a U12S. BeQuiet Darkrock 3 or 4 either pro or not, Cryorig H5, Thermalrite Macho Rev. B or any other 150-180w cooler.

Even Noctua states that these 100w cpus are only rated for low turbo/overclocking headroom with that cooler. You are looking at a 130w cooler sitting on a 100w cpu that's capable of over 150w of heat output.

To stop the heat, you need a cooler capable of handling the heat as obviously a 100w stock cooler isn't cutting it.
 
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Karadjgne said:
Yes. Are you trying to just run the pc hot? The A8 5600k is a 100w cpu. It's heat output is comparable to an i7-4790k. And you are trying to make do with the smallest cpu cooler possible. For a Noctua, you should be looking at a minimum of a U12S. BeQuiet Darkrock 3 or 4 either pro or not, Cryorig H5, Thermalrite Macho Rev. B or any other 150-180w cooler.

Even Noctua states that these 100w cpus are only rated for low turbo/overclocking headroom with that cooler. You are looking at a 130w cooler sitting on a 100w cpu that's capable of over 150w of heat output.

To stop the heat, you need a cooler capable of handling the heat as obviously a 100w stock cooler isn't cutting it.
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Thank you for your advices.
So, are you saying that "watt" (tdp) is the most important thing to consider?
 
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Everything is important. In its own way. Your usage is important, if you are encoding or gaming and streaming, that's high cpu usage, creates a lot of cpu heat. If all you do is websurf and office projects or maybe a little Photoshop, that's light usage, little heat. Also airflow is important, if you have minimal airflow the heat stays inside the case and acts as an oven. So everything has to work in concert like a symphony and nothing really has any more importance than anything else.

Wattage is important because that's the relationship between how hard you push the cpu and how much effort or ability the cooler has to handle that cpu output.

You already see what happens to a 100w stock cooler on a 100w TDP cpu. For light/normal usage it's fine. TDP is thermal design power, it's the power used by the cpu in an average of several specific tests. Mediocre tests. It's not heat output as such, although during those tests the heat output watts are very close to power used. It's not max though. When a cpu is stressed by encoding it's using the full ability, threads of the cpu and heat output can far exceed TDP by as much as double or more. Not uncommon to see a 200-250w OC, even on my 77w i7. That's where wattage is really important, matching the expected cpu heat output to the cooler size. A cooler 1.5-2x TDP will handle pretty much anything at stock values and still keep temps in the safe area. If the cooler is too small and ineffective, you'll see temps closer to that 100°C you already get, which is throttling the cpu and causing lack of performance.
 
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The problem is that cpu coolers with high tdp value are too big... (> 160 mm) is it right?

is there some cooler with tdp > 150w and height < 150mm??

looking at specifics... the Cryorig 7 plus would seem good... but i read not enthusiastic riewies
 
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The H7 is a seriously good budget cooler, at 145mm it has 0 ram issues, and better cooling than the 212 series and up until the new 212 black had a far superior mounting as well as being quieter at high rpm. It's been the budget cooler to beat since it came out several years ago and not many can in so many areas.

The C7 is a little different.

For under 160mm? Noctua NH-C14S. It's a downdraft style cooler. Easily clears 160mm restrictions and can add a second fan either on top or below. Provides the best motherboard VRM airflow there is of any cooler design. You literally mount a fan blowing directly on the socket.
 
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Karadjgne said:
The H7 is a seriously good budget cooler, at 145mm it has 0 ram issues, and better cooling than the 212 series and up until the new 212 black had a far superior mounting as well as being quieter at high rpm. It's been the budget cooler to beat since it came out several years ago and not many can in so many areas.

The C7 is a little different.

For under 160mm? Noctua NH-C14S. It's a downdraft style cooler. Easily clears 160mm restrictions and can add a second fan either on top or below. Provides the best motherboard VRM airflow there is of any cooler design. You literally mount a fan blowing directly on the socket.
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thank you again!

last question (maybe): my case is this Vultech:
https://www.vultech.it/it/end-of-life-fine-serie/292-case-gs-0787.html

is it good for Noctua NH-C14S ?

and for dark rock 4?

which is the best in your opinion?
 
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Well if that is your pc case, pretty much everythig will fit inside. I mean any tower cooler, as that case has a 185 mm clearance. In my opinion the dark rock 4 is a better performer of the two.
But for that kind of money maybe think about Cryorig R1 Universal or Ultimate, or maybe Noctua NH-D15. Noctua is a few buck more, but its among the best if not the best air cooler out there. Cryorig is also great and a few buck less.
Plus both of them are great for cooling overclocked CPU-s.
 
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goku15 said:
Well if that is your pc case, pretty much everythig will fit inside. I mean any tower cooler, as that case has a 185 mm clearance. In my opinion the dark rock 4 is a better performer of the two.
But for that kind of money maybe think about Cryorig R1 Universal or Ultimate, or maybe Noctua NH-D15. Noctua is a few buck more, but its among the best if not the best air cooler out there. Cryorig is also great and a few buck less.
Plus both of them are great for cooling overclocked CPU-s.
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that's what I wanted to hear!

my choice is for the dark rock 4... found for 60 euro. I think is a god deal. dont you think?

thank you everyone! You've been a huge help!

I'll let you know... 😉
 
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No way there's 185mm of clearance in a pc that's only 200mm wide. Figure on at least 40mm just for space used by mobo, tray, space behind it, thickness of case, standoffs etc and you end up with a case that's pushing to get a 160mm cooler. Some cases go beyond that and only have 152-157mm of clearance due to indents or cosmetics. I couldn't find any mention of cpu cooler clearance anywhere, even the rediculously inept pdf instructions. The case thickness of 0,55mm mentioned several times but no cooler height.... Sheesh.
 
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Karadjgne said:
No way there's 185mm of clearance in a pc that's only 200mm wide. Figure on at least 40mm just for space used by mobo, tray, space behind it, thickness of case, standoffs etc and you end up with a case that's pushing to get a 160mm cooler. Some cases go beyond that and only have 152-157mm of clearance due to indents or cosmetics. I couldn't find any mention of cpu cooler clearance anywhere, even the rediculously inept pdf instructions. The case thickness of 0,55mm mentioned several times but no cooler height.... Sheesh.
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Yeah, im not sure, its possible. But it says " Case dimensions 470X200X460 mm and internal case dimensions 410X185X455 mm". So it should be 185 mm clearance or at most maybe about 200 mm less, which is still 165 mm. More than enough for a dark rock 4 that is 159.4 tall. And if you look at the case pictures one can see, that the side window is even potruding outside. I belive that the dark rock 4 should fit.
 
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Internal case dimensions 185mm. That's from inside case to inside case. Most cases have at least 10-15mm, many upto 25mm behind the mobo tray to account for wiring. Add in mobo, socket etc and that's another 6mm, standoffs 6mm. So you loose at least 25mm or so, maybe more from those inside dimensions. So cpu cooler is somewhere around 160mm. If it's 160mm, cool, DR4 will fit. If it's 157mm, it won't.

Nzxt s340.
Outside case: 203mm
Cooler clearance: 161mm

And that's a thin metal side and thin tempered glass, not a 15mm loss from outside to inside.
 
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the situation has improved but not as I hoped.... before i had 100-110° in gaming... now 80-85°...

I putted the thermal paste that was in the box of the dark rock 4...maybe i didn't apply it well.. or maybe i should use a better quality thermal paste...

is it possibile that the cpu is compromised?

Consider that cpu idle temperature is 50-55° exactly like before ....there is something wrong...
 
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Cpu idle temps are only an indication of airflow. You cannot cool an object to below ambient temps by mechanical means, only chemical. An aircooler is a mechanical process. The ambient temp to that cooler isn't your outside air in the room, the cooler is using the air inside your case. With good airflow, the case temps will be closer to outside air temp, with bad airflow temps will be higher. So if your room is 22°C, and good airflow, the cpu will be closer to 30ish °C. With bad airflow it can easily be 50°C.
Now that also applies to air temps. If your room is closer to 40°C then even with good airflow your cpu will idle at 50ish°C
 
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