Cooling and motherboard question.

[Zaathion]

http://imgur.com/JWyh95P
Which one of these temps are my motherboard? I believe my gpu and cpu are downclocking because my mobo is overheating.

 

[Darkbreeze]

HWmonitor sucks and is notoriously unreliable. Use HWinfo and run sensors. Post screenshots of all sensors.

http://www.hwinfo.com/download.php

 

[Zaathion]

http://imgur.com/iRno50S,9DZFz5Q,hXe6WCu,c6sxWGx#0
http://imgur.com/iRno50S,9DZFz5Q,hXe6WCu,c6sxWGx#1
http://imgur.com/iRno50S,9DZFz5Q,hXe6WCu,c6sxWGx#2
http://imgur.com/iRno50S,9DZFz5Q,hXe6WCu,c6sxWGx#3

 

[Darkbreeze]

What are your system components specs and are you manually overclocking, because I'm seeing indications of turbo core. The downclocking is due to cool n quiet and turbo core being enabled in the bios. The temperatures all look ok, for idle. Clearly you can see that the motherboard temps are fine, at least, at idle.

Your core voltage is VERY high though. Have you manually made any adjustments to the core clock multiplier or voltage using the bios or overdrive?

Can you post screenshots like those, but with the system under full load using Prime95 on small FFT's. Let Prime run for about five minutes before you take screenshots, if it can do so without exceeding thermal limits.

http://windows-downloads-center.blogspot.com/2011/04/prime95-266.html

 

[Zaathion]

What are your system components specs and are you manually overclocking, because I'm seeing indications of turbo core. The downclocking is due to cool n quiet and turbo core being enabled in the bios. The temperatures all look ok, for idle. Clearly you can see that the motherboard temps are fine, at least, at idle.

Your core voltage is VERY high though. Have you manually made any adjustments to the core clock multiplier or voltage using the bios or overdrive?

Can you post screenshots like those, but with the system under full load using Prime95 on small FFT's. Let Prime run for about five minutes before you take screenshots, if it can do so without exceeding thermal limits.

http://windows-downloads-center.blogspot.com/2011/04/prime95-266.html

I will try and disable those in the bios. And for core voltage no I have not adjusted it. Where do I go to reset it?

 

[Darkbreeze]

NO, don't disable them unless you are running a stable manual overclock. With the default configuration the turbo core and cool n quiet are supposed to run. It will auto overclock up to it's intended boost rate but when demand is low on the cpu it will downclock to reduce power consumption and heat. If you don't have an aftermarket cooler you need this as a stock cooler with boost enabled probably has a very short lifespan and may not even be able to keep up with the thermal range when it's under heavy load, as when gaming or running demanding applications.

If you don't want it downclocking you need to configure a manual overclock and you don't want to do that with the stock cooler if you have one. Actually, as an option, it might be ok to leave the turbo core enabled and just turn off cool n quiet. Also, go into the advanced power options section of the control panel, go into change plan settings, then advanced power options and then under processor power management make sure it's set to active cooling policy. Also make sure the max processor state is 100% and minimum is between 50-100%, if you've disabled cool n quiet.

Unless you've configured a manual overclock, just leave the voltage settings in the BIOS on their default settings.

 

[Darkbreeze]

When you get an aftermarket cooler, if you choose to do a manual overclock, I'll be glad to help you set it up at that time but you don't want to do it with a stock cooler. You'll just end up burning up the cpu or motherboard. You also need very good case cooling to overclock so depending on what case you have you will want to have all fan locations populated and functional.

 

[Zaathion]

When you get an aftermarket cooler, if you choose to do a manual overclock, I'll be glad to help you set it up at that time but you don't want to do it with a stock cooler. You'll just end up burning up the cpu or motherboard. You also need very good case cooling to overclock so depending on what case you have you will want to have all fan locations populated and functional.

I have the hyper 212 evo heatsink. I would really like it if you could help me set up a manual overclock

 

[Darkbreeze]

No problem. What we'll need is the entire system specs. Please post the model for your CPU, motherboard, GPU, RAM and PSU along with your case and number of case fans installed. That should allow us to have a good idea what would be ideal for your system.

 

[Zaathion]

Asus strix gtx 970 amd fx 8350 asus M5A78L-M LX PLUS XPG x2 4gb ram 1600mhz Rosewill 650w hive series

 

[Darkbreeze]

I would not overclock on that motherboard, in fact, it may not even be sufficient for running an FX 8 core chip, regardless that it's "somewhat" supported on it.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2384030/motherboard-tier-list-am3-chipsets.html

 

[Zaathion]

I would not overclock on that motherboard, in fact, it may not even be sufficient for running an FX 8 core chip, regardless that it's "somewhat" supported on it.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2384030/motherboard-tier-list-am3-chipsets.html

Yeah I knew it was a not so great motherboard but it was the only thing in my budget at the time. It ran great the first night on it. Do you think it could of caused damage to it? Also benchmarks run very very well. So I dont think it is a hardware issue.

 

[Darkbreeze]

To start with I think I'd go into the BIOS and reset to default settings. Then set your case fan profiles where you want them. Generally the standard setting is fine. Make sure all connected case fans have an enabled profile. Maybe set the minimum RPM to around 500. I'll get with you on some custom settings that might be beneficial since you're stuck with that board for now. It would be HIGHLY advantageous to get a better board. As a budget option the Gigabyte 970A-UD3P is the best choice under a hundred bucks and can easily handle big overclocks.

 

[Zaathion]

To start with I think I'd go into the BIOS and reset to default settings. Then set your case fan profiles where you want them. Generally the standard setting is fine. Make sure all connected case fans have an enabled profile. Maybe set the minimum RPM to around 500. I'll get with you on some custom settings that might be beneficial since you're stuck with that board for now. It would be HIGHLY advantageous to get a better board. As a budget option the Gigabyte 970A-UD3P is the best choice under a hundred bucks and can easily handle big overclocks.

Do I really need a new board? If all I need it for is overclocking I doubt I really ''need'' it.

 

[Darkbreeze]

I'll put it like this. You don't "need" a new board. The board you have WILL work. But you don't "need" to change the oil in your card either. The old oil will work to lubricate the engine, until it doesn't. Same thing. That board will work, until it doesn't. And hopefully when that happens it's only the board and not the board AND CPU that fail.

That board was designed to be used with FX 4 and FX 6 core chips, not FX 8 core chips that have a much higher Thermal design power and create tremendous and thermal load on the motherboards VRM's as discussed in this article which I recommend you read:

http://www.overclock.net/a/about-vrms-mosfets-motherboard-safety-with-high-tdp-processors

 

[Zaathion]

I'll put it like this. You don't "need" a new board. The board you have WILL work. But you don't "need" to change the oil in your card either. The old oil will work to lubricate the engine, until it doesn't. Same thing. That board will work, until it doesn't. And hopefully when that happens it's only the board and not the board AND CPU that fail.

That board was designed to be used with FX 4 and FX 6 core chips, not FX 8 core chips that have a much higher Thermal design power and create tremendous and thermal load on the motherboards VRM's as discussed in this article which I recommend you read:

http://www.overclock.net/a/about-vrms-mosfets-motherboard-safety-with-high-tdp-processors

Ahh I see. I will look into getting a new motherboard for sure. But until then, how can I fix these issues?

 

[Darkbreeze]

What issues do you need to fix? Seems like the temperatures were all within spec weren't they? Is there something else going on, aside from the voltage being a bit high? Not much you can do about that since the BIOS is controlling the voltage. It should be ok as long as the temps stay within range.