Coppermine CPU for P2B

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There is a company the makes an adaptor to run coppermine in non-copermin boards, I saw it mentioned on some abit board. If you can't find a reasonable solution, you might be better off replacing the motherboard and buying a processor at the same time. BTW Intel just dropped their prices, if you want to stay with intel I suggest the CUSL2-C.

Suicide is painless...........
 
It's not that I want to stick with Intel, I just want the best bang for my buck. Now I don't want to offend any Intel fan (and you as well, as I'm aware of your fondness for Intel products) but if I decide to change board+CPU, I'll go AMD. I'm not a fan of Intel nor am I a fan of AMD, I'm a fan of good value and for the time being Good Value = AMD.

I just wanted to upgrade a bit while waiting for a decent DDR solution that has proven its reliability.



- Better go Green than Blue!
 
Question:
Which ASUS M/Bs can support PIII 650/700/750/800 (100MHz) CPU?

Answer:
To support Intel CPU with S370 FCPGA form factor on ASUS slot1 M/Bs, a S370-133 adapter card is required.

It's not clear if you need rev1.12 only to run a FC-PGA coppermine with a S370-133 adaptor, or if you need rev1.12 to run any coppermine.

Since the multiplier is locked it is not the multiplier that would be the problem but the voltage. Reading through the P2B manual I can't see a way to change the voltage on the P2Bs unless you can change the voltage in BIOS. Normally it autodetects the required voltage but the early revision boards may not support the lower voltages required for the newer chips. A 1.70V chip prob wouldn't last long at 2.00V.

BTW: Clonan - Our P3B-Fs will run them because we can change the voltage and FSB speed in BIOS. That's the difference between P3B and P2B boards.

- JW

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by JCLW on 01/26/01 04:05 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
 
I love AMD, but have founded a grassroots movement against VIA for the problems they have. If you want to go AMD I suggest the new Iwill DDR board, it has the new ALi chipset on it. Tom reviewed it a few weeks ago, it seems to be a great overclockers board as well.

Suicide is painless...........
 
Exactly.
That's what kept me from buying that P3E chip for a while.
If someone out there can assure me that a P2B CAN without a doubt support a Coppermine CPU (Slot-1 or S370) I'd go for it.
I just don't want to buy a new MoBo now.



- Better go Green than Blue!
 
How's your Movement called?
Can we join?



- Better go Green than Blue!
 
Why not just wait for a few months. I mean why spend all that money to upgrade a system that you'll ditch for a better one soon anyway?

That or just go with whatever is offered currently for DDR SDRAM motherboards if you really can't wait.

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You are in luck!

Looky here:
http://www.ctechnet.com/hardware/asus.htm#10100

Summary:
PIIIE FC-PGA in an FC-PGA -> Slot 1 converter
Worked with P2B rev. 1.02 or up. (Confirmed)
- Worked with IWill Slocket II Rev 1.1
- Worked with MSI MS-6905Master
- Worked with Slotek SL-02A++
- Worked with Asus S370-133 Rev 1.01
- FC-PGA 500E Worked with overclocked frequency to PIII 515/103, 560/112, 667/133
- FC-PGA 550E Worked with overclocked frequency to PIII 566/103, 616/112, 733/133
- FC-PGA 600E Worked with overclocked frequency to PIII 618/103, 672/112, 747/124
- FC-PGA 600E stock CPU frequency, 1.8 volts with very cool CPU temperature. (Average between 27'c ~ 35'c)
- Worked only with 1.80 volts or up on FC-PGA (System will not boot if set the jumpers on Slocket to 1.60 volts)
- System boot up will show Pentium III processor as an regular Pentium III processor w/o 'E' or 'EB'

- JW
 
"Other forum"???

I'll have to apologize for my ignorance but could you be a bit more precise?



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np

According to those guys you'd have to run it at 1.8V instead of 1.7V, but they didn't have any problems with heat. Should help if you want to o/c as well.

I think Crashman was talking about the anti-VIA stuff. It's in the "Other" forum (bottom of the main forum page)
 
Of course...
I'm sorry!
I feel pretty stupid right now :-(



- Better go Green than Blue!
 
That IS good news for Shazam ! Midrange PIIIs are really cheap now.

I just built another BX system this weekend for work:
ASUS P3B-F. It's one of the last available, I think. I did it because P4 is clearly not affordable or faster, but also because I keep seeing heat and stability problems with VIA/AMD setups. I know MANY have no problems with VIA/AMD, but I see few posts about heating problems with PIII (the latest 700E posting seems to be a loner). Price was a major factor as well, so here's what I ended up getting:

ELSA Gladiac MX 32SDR
ASUS S370-DL
WDBA205 7200 (puuled from an upgrade at home)
2x128Mb CAS3 'midgrade' RAM (NEC chips on it)
Diamond MX400
InWin Mid 250W
CL52x IDE
NEC IDE zip100
Optiquest Q95-2 (19")
Win2000Pro license (upgrade)
Office 2000 (upgrade)
Photoshop (upgrade)
The total before software (but including fans and input devices) was below $1350.

I got another 800E, based on phenomenal luck with an earlier purchase (below 50C and stable at 140FSB/1120MHz). That's 40% over nominal processor speed (and AGP), and the PCI bus is even stably overclocked ! But this new 800E doesn't like to go that fast. This morning, I loaded system and software (set at nominal specs). It was running cool 24-28C.

Now, it is posting 992 (124FSB/31PCI setting). The next step available (BIOS OR dipswitches) is 133/33, and it just isn't making it.

I probably could have done better with the 700E (have one at 980MHz:140FSB/35PCI/94AGP). I bothered with a stability cert on this one (13hrs and a few minutes with no errors).

Oh well. Still, 992 isn't bad

By the way, Shazam, it runs Descent3 and Unreal Tournament Nicely ! And it even loaded and runs that old DOS/Win game 'Forsaken' perfectly. Never thought I could do that with NT5 !
 
Hey clonan: what stepping are the CPUs?

Sisoft Sandra will tell you under "CPU and BIOS info - Stepping Mask: xX#". I'm just wondering if some steppings overclock better then others.

- JW<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by JCLW on 01/28/01 00:46 AM.</EM></FONT></P>
 
Please.. save me the searching time.. where can I download sisoft sandra ?
 
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