Core i5 vs Phenom II X6

[chinoroy]

sadly even in that the 2500K is better :/
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/146?vs=288

ah well.

of course the i5-2500K is faster like i said. but the X6 is a lil stronger for this matter. i know more cores is better cause ive also tested my other system using a Q8200 vs my E7500 @ 3.70GHz and the slower clock Q8200 won on handling lots of VST, VSTi plugins. and im talking about heavy plugins here. like all tracks with FX like Guitar Amplification, Dynamics Processing, EQs, Reverb etc. what more for the hexa-core? it'll be like Goliath. yeah slower than i5's but has the might.

also anandtech only benched for "rendering times". the faster one will win. but that is not how you test a power of a thing.

 

[FALC0N]

if you read the post you quoted i said 'best selling PERFORMANCE cpu' out there.
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But thats not what I was talking about. At that price point, everyone buys the 2500k because of the unlocked multiplier. But it is badly outsold by sub-$150 parts.

cheapest 2 boards with 2xPCI-E lanes and using the latest chipset:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128520
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813130608


tada, infact the LGA1155 one is better in some ways.

Board cherry picking aside, you will notice both boards were on sale and the intel board had a higher regular price. Gigabyte version of the AMD board had a $10 rebate and was therefore cheaper. And relevant since it was a Gigabyte intel board.

Like I said, its a small difference, but it is there.

 

[FALC0N]

of course the i5-2500K is faster like i said. but the X6 is a lil stronger for this matter. i know more cores is better cause ive also tested my other system using a Q8200 vs my E7500 @ 3.70GHz and the slower clock Q8200 won on handling lots of VST, VSTi plugins. and im talking about heavy plugins here. like all tracks with FX like Guitar Amplification, Dynamics Processing, EQs, Reverb etc. what more for the hexa-core? it'll be like Goliath. yeah slower than i5's but has the might.

also anandtech only benched for "rendering times". the faster one will win. but that is not how you test a power of a thing.

It is a good point that there is a difference between speed and raw processing power.

The 2500k is faster. But when pushed, the 1090 can handle more. Your experience there is a great example of that.

 

[HexXxagon]

Thank you all. Since I'm upgrading my system only for handling more vst/vsti plugins which is my main issue now, I finally decided to buy amd phenom II X6 1090T. Any more comments would be appreciated.

 

[FALC0N]

Thank you all. Since I'm upgrading my system only for handling more vst/vsti plugins which is my main issue now, I finally decided to buy amd phenom II X6 1090T. Any more comments would be appreciated.

Some builders like to upgrade their cpu couple of years down the line while keeping the old motherboard and components. This can be a good way to save on costs.

If you think this is something you might do, then I would recommend either an ASUS or Gigabyte motherboard. Both update the bios on their boards for several years on all board models, ensuring that later processors will work with your current board. At least until the cpu manufacturer abandons the socket. Most Motherboard manufacturers will only update the bios for a year or so.

Are you really in Iran? Your English is very good. Usually posters from non-engish speaking countries have serious grammar and syntax errors. I would never have known if someone hadn't mentioned it.

 

[chinoroy]

dont forget to buy dual ram modules for better performance. and ignore MSi boards as they have a bad reputation vrms blowing when overclocking lol. you prolly dont wanna overclock yet, but when the time comes, you'll be curious and will start to spend things.

 

[Wisecracker]

No issues with MSI from my standpoint -- they have been as good, if not better, than the other guys, especially in BIOS updates.

The latest AMD motherboard integrated graphics (Radeon 4250?) is quite good for it's age - generally on par with anything Intel has to offer. Some boards have integrated 'sideport' video memory that reduces the need to commit a lot of system RAM.

You can easily push 2 monitors with it with one caveat -- digital (HDMI or DVI) for connection A; analog (d-sub) for connection B. D-sub to digital 'converter' plugs have worked fine for me.

 

[HexXxagon]

Are you really in Iran? Your English is very good. Usually posters from non-engish speaking countries have serious grammar and syntax errors. I would never have known if someone hadn't mentioned it.

You really made me happy, and happier when I notice that I've had no language class, degrees, etc. 😍

 

[HexXxagon]

Some builders like to upgrade their cpu couple of years down the line while keeping the old motherboard and components. This can be a good way to save on costs.

If you think this is something you might do, then I would recommend either an ASUS or Gigabyte motherboard. Both update the bios on their boards for several years on all board models, ensuring that later processors will work with your current board. At least until the cpu manufacturer abandons the socket. Most Motherboard manufacturers will only update the bios for a year or so. .

Nice point. I'll keep it in mind.

 

[chinoroy]

No issues with MSI from my standpoint -- they have been as good, if not better, than the other guys, especially in BIOS updates.

The latest AMD motherboard integrated graphics (Radeon 4250?) is quite good for it's age - generally on par with anything Intel has to offer. Some boards have integrated 'sideport' video memory that reduces the need to commit a lot of system RAM.

You can easily push 2 monitors with it with one caveat -- digital (HDMI or DVI) for connection A; analog (d-sub) for connection B. D-sub to digital 'converter' plugs have worked fine for me.

yeah i dont hate on MSI. cause i know they make good products too. the vrms issue was just what i read somewhere like almost all of them are saying the truth and they've experienced it.

 

[HexXxagon]

Two more questions here: Is the dedicated CPU fan enough for 1090T or do I need to buy an extra one? and what kind of power do you recommend for such a cpu?

 

[FinneousPJ]

I'm not sure I understand your questions but if you're overclocking (it's a Black Edition after all) you're going to want an aftermarket cooler, like the Hyper 212+. If not the stock cooler should be enough. What kind of power, do you mean PSU? That's obviously dependent on your system, not just the CPU.

 

[Wisecracker]

If you are referring to a 'case' fan at a minimum you really need one at the rear of the case -- with one at the front highly advisable.

If you wish to start an interesting debate, everyone has their own favorite 'case air flow' set ups :lol:

yeah i dont hate on MSI. cause i know they make good products too. the vrms issue was just what i read somewhere like almost all of them are saying the truth and they've experienced it.

No worries, mate.

I think a few years ago they had issues with 'sploding caps on some models (maybe s939's ??) but their board components are as good as anyone these days.

And I actually own an MSI 790FX AM2+ motherboard which has had so many BIOS updates it supports over 200 AM2 and AM3 processors

😱

Best $140 I ever spent!

(I think the actual number of supported CPUs is something like 127 [:jaydeejohn:5] )

 

[assassin123]

yeah if you want a cheap system then amd will be better for you