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If for example he was in US then AMD would be better on a budget
But looking at the build he came up with where he is at and in his budget
he would be fine especially if the OP studies OC'ing.
And everything except cpu/mobo could be reused for later build when Core I series drops in price
 
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well, looks like it will at leaste take a couple or more years before the quads gets phased out, i guess i have saved enough money when that time comes..

oh yeah, have read somewhere that if i made a mistake in OC'ing, my quad will be damaged?
 
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That is the chance you take.
usually because of ocing your temps rise and that can fry the chip.
however modern processors throttle back at a certaing temp so you should be ok.
Normally your windows freezes and you reboot and set your overclock lower.
there are plenty of beginners guides here and on other sites.
Study up on those and make your own decision if it worth the chance.
It can reduce the lifetime of your equipment.
with the build you proposed you should be good for a long time (using it for what you describe) before you would need to think about ocing it.
and you can reuse almost everything for the future for another build.
 
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the fact that i can use the parts for future builds eases my mind.. thanks for that..

so, if i OC and made a mistake? what happens? i end up with a dual core instead of a quad?

so i should OC it when it just come to point that its like what a P3 is now?

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im not really looking for a monster mega computer build :na:

i just want a little above average build that will last me 2-4 years.. or even more..
 
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usually if you oc it will freeze and then you would go into the bios and reset to default or lower oc settings
If a tragedy occurs you might lose your processor completely but it is rare.
read this:
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1804
it is a good guide to get started with.
and it is not a bad idea to wait to oc until your hardware is lacking.
You stated that you wanted the build for schoolwork and games.
what kinda of school work? is it computer related or just writing reports and powerpoints?
also what kinda of gaming?
if you want to play crysis or starcraft at the absolute highest settings and resolution then a high powered machine is needed but I play crysis warhead on low settings and left 4 dead 2 and far cry at med to high settings on an ancient dinosaur (built 2004) machine.
really gaming is more dependent on video card then cpu
 
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woah.. jurassic era,, my last pc was bought that time.. was a p3 haha but i didn't know much so it got shot down..

maybe at the highest setting but not resolutuion,, you know.. the way u would want to feel when you've just bought yourself a new rig. like u can do anything haha LOL (gts250)

i will use engineering softwares, CAD, MATLAB and such.. not just writing papers and Powerpoints >.<

 
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most software nowadays still uses Pentium 4 and windows xp as a minimum system requirement so you should be fine for 2-4 years
and then unless things radically you would just have to upgrade motherboard and cpu which by current prices is about is about 100-150 USD fpr combo.
only thing is whether DDR3 ram will still be used 2-4 years from now
 
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well for highest setting and engineering software raises the bar...
I would if you could look at min and recommended requirements for that software and build using the recommended requirements
as a guideline.
The software sites for each company should list that.
Definitely more cores the better.
 
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i will use engineering softwares, CAD, MATLAB and such.. not just writing papers and Powerpoints >.<
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pulled from Autodesks site:

For 32-Bit AutoCAD 2011
Microsoft® Windows® 7 Enterprise, Ultimate, Professional, or Home Premium (compare Windows 7 versions); Microsoft® Windows Vista® Enterprise, Business, Ultimate, or Home Premium (SP1 or later) (compare Windows Vista versions); or Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional or Home edition (SP2 or later)
For Windows Vista or Windows 7: Intel® Pentium® 4 or AMD Athlon® dual-core processor, 3.0 GHz or higher with SSE2 technology; for Windows XP: Intel Pentium 4 or AMD Athlon dual-core processor, 1.6 GHz or higher with SSE2 technology
2 GB RAM
1.8 GB free disk space for installation
1,280 x 1,024 true color video display adapter 128 MB or greater, Microsoft® Direct3D®-capable workstation-class graphics card
1,024 x 768 display resolution with true color
Microsoft® Internet Explorer® 7.0 or later
Install from download or DVD

For 64-Bit AutoCAD 2011
Microsoft Windows 7 Enterprise, Ultimate, Professional, or Home Premium (compare Windows 7 versions); Microsoft Windows Vista Enterprise, Business, or Ultimate (SP1 or later) (compare Windows Vista versions); or Microsoft Windows XP Professional (SP2 or later)
AMD Athlon 64 with SSE2 technology, AMD Opteron® processor with SSE2 technology, Intel® Xeon® processor with Intel EM64T support and SSE2 technology, or Intel Pentium 4 with Intel EM64T support and SSE2 technology
2 GB RAM
2 GB free space for installation
1,280 x 1,024 true color video display adapter 128 MB or greater, Microsoft® Direct3D®-capable workstation-class graphics card
1,024 x 768 display resolution with true color
Internet Explorer 7.0 or later
Install from download or DVD

now that thas mentioned, you can revert to using older versions of cad...maybe 2007-2008. I used them with a rig similar to yours.

Rig:
Intel E4300 (C2D @ 1.8GHz)
Intel DG965RY
Transcend 2GB DDR2 800+MHz overclocking modules
xfx 8600GT DDR3 Fatal1ty
250GB HDD WD
ODD
Thermaltake 420W PSU
Thermlatake Armor Jr

^ this rig was during 2006 and it had no hickups with 3DSmax 9, AutoCAD 2007, Adobe CS3 Master Suite including 360' panoramic render tools. So your Quad will slice up all the work you throw at it.

what about the dd3 ram?
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DDR3 will be here for a while...as the new sandy bridge will still support that into the future, maybe 1.5-2 years.

Your machine listed above is ok, don't think abt DDR3 now cos getting a mobo that handles DDR3 will up your price and may be rare at this point for a C2Q proc.
 
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Asus P5G41CM-LX Intel G41/ DDR3
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the answer is in plain site - yes it can. The G41 can support ANY 45nm proc of the LGA 775 package

don't think abt DDR3 now cos getting a mobo that handles DDR3 will up your price and may be rare at this point for a C2Q proc.
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i apologize for that, i overlooked your mobo/ram combo

here are more specs for you : http://www.jr.com/asus/pe/ASU_P5G41CMLX/
 
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Well, thats a question that really nobody can answer until the day arrives, but many people will throw in thier opinions of what will happen, I for one dont belive that the C2D or the C2Q will see a big price change as they have most likely settled into thier EOL prices. RAM prices may dip some as the have been for the past few months due to higher PC sales/demand this time of year.
 
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