Corsair 650D Airflow, will I run into problems?

[SecretCobraz]

I have heard of the Corsair 650D having problems with substantial airflow. With my Airflow set-up, I would have the standard 200mm front intake, with an H100 Cooler pulling in air from the top, and using the rear 120 as an exhaust.

I have read that the single 200mm isn't enough to cool the drive cages and the GPU, even if you remove the first cage. I really want to hear some opinons on this matter.

If the airflow problems are legitimate and enough to warrant a problem, I am considering getting a Carbide 500R. I like the 500R, and even though the Obsidian series does look better, it doesn't mean anything if my GPU is on Fire.

Any input on this topic would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Uther39]

You will have absolutely no problem keeping your gpu cool with a 650d, i dont no where you got those stories from, but ive certainly never had problems with hot gpus when ive done a build using this case, and in the past i did a build with 2 x gtx480 in SLI again with no issues.

 

[hellfire24]

I have heard of the Corsair 650D having problems with substantial airflow. With my Airflow set-up, I would have the standard 200mm front intake, with an H100 Cooler pulling in air from the top, and using the rear 120 as an exhaust.

I have read that the single 200mm isn't enough to cool the drive cages and the GPU, even if you remove the first cage. I really want to hear some opinons on this matter.

If the airflow problems are legitimate and enough to warrant a problem, I am considering getting a Carbide 500R. I like the 500R, and even though the Obsidian series does look better, it doesn't mean anything if my GPU is on Fire.

Any input on this topic would be greatly appreciated.

can you please post the link(s) to that fake story?/
take a look here-
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/corsair_obsidian_d/
as uther said,650D is one of the best case out there(my favorite mid tower).

 

[SecretCobraz]

can you please post the link(s) to that fake story?/
take a look here-
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/corsair_obsidian_d/
as uther said,650D is one of the best case out there(my favorite mid tower).

It was mainly a lot of friends said the case may have airflow problems. Since I am doing another build for a relative soon, I already orded the 650D, and if the airflow still concerns me after some tests I will go with the 500R instead. Nothing better than to get my hands on the case itself I suppose.

 

[SecretCobraz]

Just to finish off, the 500R has extremely superior airflow. One of the reasons I may go with a 500R over the 650D I just ordered.

 

[hellfire24]

^wow that's so noobish thing,more fans don't mean better airflow.
just look here-
the front intake 200mm fan will suck a lot of air without making a lot of noise.
the top and rear fan(s) will work as the exhaust.
BTW,you have dumb friends and just take a look here-
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/corsair_obsidian_d/

 

[SecretCobraz]

^wow that's so noobish thing,more fans don't mean better airflow.
just look here-
the front intake 200mm fan will suck a lot of air without making a lot of noise.
the top and rear fan(s) will work as the exhaust.
BTW,you have dumb friends and just take a look here-
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/corsair_obsidian_d/

I am pretty sure Eight 120mm Fans easily beat a Single 200mm. Assuming the fans are moving enough to produce a decent cfm.

Please then explain to me why Eight 120mm Fans are not better than a single 200mm. I see no reason they wouldn't, it's simple math more fans would move more air.

Obviously the back 120 is an exhaust, but I am installing an H100 so the top 200mm is being replaced by Four 120mm fans. Probably still exhaust, but doing research into positive pressure.

I have already read that specific review.

 

[hellfire24]

^because the case does not comes with 8 fans,you will need $80 to install 8 fans that is completely useless and will also make your pc sound like a jet.

 

[SecretCobraz]

^because the case does not comes with 8 fans,you will need $80 to install 8 fans that is completely useless and will also make your pc sound like a jet.

Here is the problem I have with you, you make baseless claims and don't back them up, then you make up other problems which are more choices than anything else.

First off, I want to install 8 fans and replace all the stock fans, it's 12 Total with my H100 and the side panel, that's personal preference. Second they are not useless, the more airflow the better, there is never a situation where more Airflow is bad when it comes to computer cases.

It won't hurt to have better airflow, and it keeps the components running cooler even though it's beyond what is necessary, (This is extremely helpful with SLI or CrossfireX Configs and/or upgrade paths).

Personally I don't have a big problem with fan noise, and you can great quiet fans that are all running very quiet, 20 fans operating at a specific audio level won't sound louder than 1 of the same fans.

I personally am a sound engineer, it's part of my line of work.

Also the total cost of the fans I WANT to buy would be $150, and I am perfectly fine with that. As for sound, the Corsairs top out @ 35-DBA, which is way quieter than my current system, and much quieter than the hardware around me.

X2 Corsair 120MM SP series High Performance
X6 XIGMATEK CLF-F1452 140mm Red LED
X4 XIGMATEK CLF-F1452 140mm Red LED

Now is this necessarily? Nope. Do I want to? Absolutely. It's not like you need a full liquid cooling system, but plenty of people build them.

 

[hellfire24]

i am sorry sir,do what you want.
i may not be an expert but you are noob BTW,no doubt.
have a goo time.

 

[SecretCobraz]

^sir,if you are such an expert yourself then why are even asking? go to hell and do what you want.
FYI,you absolutely know nothing if you are claiming that a 650d suffers with heat issues.
one more thing as a piece of advice,there's absolutely no need for 8 fans.2 fans in front as intake,2 on top as exhaust and a rear as exhaust is the maximum no. fans i would suggest.
you need to have a high end cpu cooler and gpu cooler to keep their temps down.

First off all, I said potential airflow problems. If your going to quote me you can at least do it correctly.

Of course there is no absolute need for 8+ fans, there is absolutely no need for Water Cooling either.
Isn't the whole point of building a system choice, like the specific reason some people are incredibly Anti-Mac? >_<

H100 is pretty high end, it's a 240mm Rad, and with Push/Pull it will cool no problem. Yes hardware has problems, but from what I have read these are minimal, and Corsair is quick to replace them if problems arise. I am staying away from Air CPU Coolers entirely for this build.

As for the GPU, Probobly going for an EVGA GTX 680 FTW+. This 680 has EVGA's Custom cooler that is very high quality and great for cooling the card.

Honestly I don't see the validity in your argument, and your contributing nothing.
You have made baseless claims, failed to back up said claims, make more baseless and arbitrary arguments, Miss-Quoted me, and insulted me. I honestly don't see why you would waste your time.

You have derailed this thread entirely. I heard a few friends say that the 650D may have airflow problems because of the single 200mm being the only intake. Instead of going on a pointless and bias rant, maybe you could have contributed by saying the 200mm should be just fine.

 

[hellfire24]

First off all, I said potential airflow problems. If your going to quote me you can at least do it correctly.

Of course there is no absolute need for 8+ fans, there is absolutely no need for Water Cooling either.
Isn't the whole point of building a system choice, like the specific reason some people are incredibly Anti-Mac? >_<

H100 is pretty high end, it's a 240mm Rad, and with Push/Pull it will cool no problem. Yes hardware has problems, but from what I have read these are minimal, and Corsair is quick to replace them if problems arise. I am staying away from Air CPU Coolers entirely for this build.

As for the GPU, Probobly going for an EVGA GTX 680 FTW+. This 680 has EVGA's Custom cooler that is very high quality and great for cooling the card.

Honestly I don't see the validity in your argument, and your contributing nothing.
You have made baseless claims, failed to back up said claims, make more baseless and arbitrary arguments, Miss-Quoted me, and insulted me. I honestly don't see why you would waste your time.

You have derailed this thread entirely. I heard a few friends say that the 650D may have airflow problems because of the single 200mm being the only intake. Instead of going on a pointless and bias rant, maybe you could have contributed by saying the 200mm should be just fine.

no comments.

 

[SecretCobraz]

no comments.

Not like you had anything to contribute in the first place.

I have 2 builds coming up, my personal and my farther's.

650D is already on it's way ($80 off MSRP from TigerDirect), and the new build for my farther includes the 500R.

I will perform tests with both cases and probably will go with the 500r, since my farther's build isn't using hardware warranting of maximum cooling.

 

[Uther39]

OK chaps lets calm things down a bit here and get back to business...

OK, firstly, trust me your 650d will not suffer heat problems, and i speak from experience.

Now to me you sound like a chap whos got a bit of knowledge and experience so isnt afraid to try new things.

So, the thing i think we will all agree on is that the 650d does look nicer than the 500r, but the issue is i think, you would like to have the variety of cooling configurations in the 650d that you get with the 500r, so heres what you do, you take out your trusty dremel and you make it a possibility.

You should in my opinion which is based on 10 years PC build experience and research always look to create positive pressure, so knowing this id buy the beautifull 650d, keep its 200mm front fan, then carefully cut a 200mm hole in the windowed side panel to fit a 200mm side intake fan (which you will need to filter).

Next if you insist on fitting a H100 rather than an XSPC kit then do so, i can see the pros and cons of both, so fit it into the roof, but only mount 2 fans on it as exhausts, as again in my experience adding another 2 fans to make 4 on the H100 only improves temps across the board by an insignificant 1c. Then fit a 120/140mm fan in the rear slot but have it as an intake (again filtered) this helps feed cool air to your h100.

So a picture paints a thousand words...

And i know cutting a whole into an acrylic window sounds daunting, but if you take your time with plenty of preparation trust me it will work out fine, remember measure twice cut once.

 

[Uther39]

Oh and the best cooled GTX680 out there is the ASUS Direct CUII variants
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121634

 

[SecretCobraz]

Oh and the best cooled GTX680 out there is the ASUS Direct CUII variants
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121634

Thanks for the input, really appreciate it. While Asus does have the best cooling with their CUII's I prefer Rear-Exhaust coolers.

Drilling is an option and I could definitively pull it off, however Corsair makes a Mesh Side panel with Fan mounts for the 650D. It accommodates a single 200mm as well as Four 120mm fans, that problem is solved.
http://www.corsair.com/us/pc-cases/corsair-computer-case-accessories/obsidian-series-650d-mesh-side-panel-insert.html

Here is what I came up with for a final Mock-Up for the 500R. Even though the H100 is a 240 Rad, the top of the 500R allows 140s to be mounted up top instead.

So I think we have this pretty much figured out, thank you so much for your input and help.