Could MSI MS-6199 BX supports Celeron3(Tulatin)
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It's on the compatability list for the Upgradeware Slot-T adapter. I SPECIFICALLY recommend the Slot-T because it's a high quality, inexpensive unit, which allows for manual voltage adjustments and easy overclocking.
The Tualatin Celeron performs badly at stock bus speed, but performs very well at 133MHz bus or higher.
I specifically recommend the 1.1GHz Tualatin Celeron because it's 11x multiplier will give you 1466MHz at 133MHz FSB, a fairly easy overclock for most Tualatins. The 1200 would be 1600MHz at 133MHz bus, a very difficult overclock!
Believe me, if you compared a Celeron 1400 equiped system to an overclocked 1100@1466, you'd see a night and day difference in performance. I've owned several Tualatin CPU's and have a lot of experience with testing them at various core and bus speeds.
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The Tualatin Celeron performs badly at stock bus speed, but performs very well at 133MHz bus or higher.
I specifically recommend the 1.1GHz Tualatin Celeron because it's 11x multiplier will give you 1466MHz at 133MHz FSB, a fairly easy overclock for most Tualatins. The 1200 would be 1600MHz at 133MHz bus, a very difficult overclock!
Believe me, if you compared a Celeron 1400 equiped system to an overclocked 1100@1466, you'd see a night and day difference in performance. I've owned several Tualatin CPU's and have a lot of experience with testing them at various core and bus speeds.
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thanks a lot~
some people told me that i could use two adapters to make it possible, I. solt 1 to 370 II. 370 to 370~
they said that my old mobo could only support the Tulatin Celeron at the speed of 1Ghz(100x10)
in the other hand, my mobo (MS-6199BX) could support the 133FSB P3 (coppermine), so i conclude that it could support the overclocked FSB133 C3(Tulatin) as well.
I think that I had better to borrow a C3 and upgradeware(370to370) to try it out~
<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by phil_scnu on 08/21/03 03:26 AM.</EM></FONT></P>
some people told me that i could use two adapters to make it possible, I. solt 1 to 370 II. 370 to 370~
they said that my old mobo could only support the Tulatin Celeron at the speed of 1Ghz(100x10)
in the other hand, my mobo (MS-6199BX) could support the 133FSB P3 (coppermine), so i conclude that it could support the overclocked FSB133 C3(Tulatin) as well.
I think that I had better to borrow a C3 and upgradeware(370to370) to try it out~
<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by phil_scnu on 08/21/03 03:26 AM.</EM></FONT></P>
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The Upgradeware Slot-T is a Slot-1 to Socket 370 adapter for Tualatin CPU's. They also have a socket to socket adapter, but only the Slot-T has voltage adjustment.
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To see a list of venders go to the upgradeware website <A HREF="http://www.upgradeware.com" target="_new">http://www.upgradeware.com</A>
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fine ~ i got it~
MSI
MS-6119 *
MS-6131 *
MS-6147 V1.1 * (provided by Ilker Rumelioglu)
MS-6156BX (Provided by Jimmy)
MS-6163 *
MS-6163 Pro (MS-6163 V2.0) *
BX Master (MS-6163 V3.0)
MS-6163VA * (provided by Roberto)
MS-6199 *
MS-6199VA *
* Please check first if your mainboard have a blue sticker with letter "C" located in the I/O chip, if yes, that means your system could support Intel Coppermine/Tualatin CPU. (The I/O chip is located beside the Primary IDE connector)
If your motherboard does not have a blue sticker, please contact to Tech Support support@upgradeware.com
MSI
MS-6119 *
MS-6131 *
MS-6147 V1.1 * (provided by Ilker Rumelioglu)
MS-6156BX (Provided by Jimmy)
MS-6163 *
MS-6163 Pro (MS-6163 V2.0) *
BX Master (MS-6163 V3.0)
MS-6163VA * (provided by Roberto)
MS-6199 *
MS-6199VA *
* Please check first if your mainboard have a blue sticker with letter "C" located in the I/O chip, if yes, that means your system could support Intel Coppermine/Tualatin CPU. (The I/O chip is located beside the Primary IDE connector)
If your motherboard does not have a blue sticker, please contact to Tech Support support@upgradeware.com
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I believe that sticker is what Upgradeware is using to indicate VRM 8.4 (voltage levels down to 1.30v). I disregarded what they said with me 6131 and installed the adapter anyway, knowing that it was VRM 8.4. It worked fine.
VRM 8.2 was the earlier one, only allowing voltages as low as 1.80v. If you know your board supports lower voltages, it's VRM 8.4 and should be fine.
The Tualatin should be used at 1.50v base core voltage, or up to 1.70v for overclocking. Voltages above 1.65v haven't provided any additional overclocking for my processors.
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VRM 8.2 was the earlier one, only allowing voltages as low as 1.80v. If you know your board supports lower voltages, it's VRM 8.4 and should be fine.
The Tualatin should be used at 1.50v base core voltage, or up to 1.70v for overclocking. Voltages above 1.65v haven't provided any additional overclocking for my processors.
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My 6199BX is running with the Celeron2-566@850 at 1.7V
& the attachment(mobo guide book) declares that it support
1.3V as well~
the Tulatin's official Voltage of 1000Mhz,1100Mhz& 1200Mhz
is 1.475V~ , Might 1.5V do harm to them? Even the 1.7V "HIGH" voltage?
& the attachment(mobo guide book) declares that it support
1.3V as well~
the Tulatin's official Voltage of 1000Mhz,1100Mhz& 1200Mhz
is 1.475V~ , Might 1.5V do harm to them? Even the 1.7V "HIGH" voltage?
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OMG what a paranoid question! 1.475v is the base setting. Because board VRM's and power supplies are never perfect, you'll never see a system that actually supplies it. In fact, you'll see various new board supplying 1.42v to 1.52v STOCK!
These things live fine with up to 1.70v. I recommend 1.50v for stock speed use or 1.65v for overclocking, these voltage won't even make the CPU hot, let alone hot enough to fry. Oh, and Tualatins have both overheat and overcurrent protection, so their nearly indestructable anyway.
The fact you're running a CPU at 1.70v proves you have a VRM 8.4 regulator, which supports voltages as low as 1.30v. I tried various things with mine, I underclocked my 1.2 to 800MHz and 1.30v, then used a Pentium 1 cooler for passive cooling, just to see if it was possible. Then I put the factory cooler back on and found the limit of that CPU to be around 1500MHz, which was less than ideal given the odd bus speed. I sold that and bought a 1.1 chip and overclocked that to 133MHz bus, 1466MHz CPU clock, on the stock cooler, at 1.65v, it ran cool and provided many months of 100% stable operation. I've had several other CPU's for customers, and every 1100 Tualatin Celeron I've seen has been able to reach 1466MHz without stress.
I push the overclocking issue because it allows faster CPU to RAM transfers and offers a HUGE increase in performance on many applications, as compared to a stock Celeron 1400.
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These things live fine with up to 1.70v. I recommend 1.50v for stock speed use or 1.65v for overclocking, these voltage won't even make the CPU hot, let alone hot enough to fry. Oh, and Tualatins have both overheat and overcurrent protection, so their nearly indestructable anyway.
The fact you're running a CPU at 1.70v proves you have a VRM 8.4 regulator, which supports voltages as low as 1.30v. I tried various things with mine, I underclocked my 1.2 to 800MHz and 1.30v, then used a Pentium 1 cooler for passive cooling, just to see if it was possible. Then I put the factory cooler back on and found the limit of that CPU to be around 1500MHz, which was less than ideal given the odd bus speed. I sold that and bought a 1.1 chip and overclocked that to 133MHz bus, 1466MHz CPU clock, on the stock cooler, at 1.65v, it ran cool and provided many months of 100% stable operation. I've had several other CPU's for customers, and every 1100 Tualatin Celeron I've seen has been able to reach 1466MHz without stress.
I push the overclocking issue because it allows faster CPU to RAM transfers and offers a HUGE increase in performance on many applications, as compared to a stock Celeron 1400.
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Why do you sound disappointed that your board is a 100% go for the Tualatin Celeron? You should be happy you can use it!
The Upgradeware Slot-T is $20. The Celeron 1.1 Tualatin is $40. Overclocking that thing to 1466MHz at 133MHz bus is a 99% sure thing. And the voltages are perfect for making the system live a long and happy life.
So why do you sound disappointed?
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The Upgradeware Slot-T is $20. The Celeron 1.1 Tualatin is $40. Overclocking that thing to 1466MHz at 133MHz bus is a 99% sure thing. And the voltages are perfect for making the system live a long and happy life.
So why do you sound disappointed?
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