Question Could you please recommend a GPU

beauknowsdiddly

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Hey there,
So it's on an MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard with a Ryzen 5700G CPU. What would you guys recommend for gaming without totally breaking the bank. I'm thinking like $200, maybe $250 at the most? Is there such an animal?

Thank You!!
 
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Fro 250 bucks, best you can get, is RX 7600
pcpp: https://pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#X=0,26468&sort=price&c=554&page=1

It is equal to RTX 4060. So, quite good. Also, RX 7600 is PCI-E 4.0 x8 GPU and your MoBo has PCI-E 4.0 x16 slot, where to put it. So, you'd get full performance out of it.

And here's also GPU hierarchy, to see how different GPUs fare against each other,
link: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html
Thank you Aeacus!
Would those have any problems running stuff like autocad, or any of the latest games?
 

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The IGP in 5700G is no slouch at around the speed of a GTX 570 or GTX 750Ti, good for 720p gaming:
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but yes, $300 RTX 4060 and $250 RX7600 are way faster and good for 1080p at even ultra/extreme settings, though a bit slow for1440p even at low
rtx-4060-1440p.jpg

1440p ultra is right out
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Note that RTX 3050 and RTX 2060 are some 10-20% faster than your GTX 1070
 

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The IGP in 5700G is no slouch at around the speed of a GTX 570 or GTX 750Ti, good for 720p gaming:
main-qimg-2b980bc2d8bf15e3b108783cf27179da

but yes, $300 RTX 4060 and $250 RX7600 are way faster and good for 1080p at even ultra/extreme settings, though a bit slow for1440p even at low
rtx-4060-1440p.jpg

1440p ultra is right out
4P5zaamCm59sKeiWNxEAgj-1200-80.png.webp

Note that RTX 3050 and RTX 2060 are some 10-20% faster than your GTX 1070
Thank You Everyone!
I'm getting the rx 7600!
 

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This answers your question;
GTX 1070 vs RX 7600 comparison: https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1070-vs-AMD-RX-7600/3609vsm2114669

Also, looks like you didn't look the GPU hierarchy link i gave, since GTX 1070 is listed there as well, whereby you could easily tell the diff between the two.
Thanks again Aeacus
I actually did look at the GPU hierarchy link you provided, but I'm probably short a sandwich in my lunch box. I just didn't really get it. No clue what "rasterization' is. Then it started talking about how the top one, the rtx 4090 bottlenecks at 1440 and especially 1080? So the most expensive top of the list GPU bottlenecks at 1080p? That's bad right? lol Anyway that was just a bit confusing so I pretty much stopped reading at that point. If I understood all that. I probably wouldn't have needed to ask the question in the first place! So thank you VERY MUCH I'm taking your advice and getting the RX 7600!
 

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I just didn't really get it.
Rather than reading the whole article, just view the images for easiest understanding. E.g:

1080p ultra:

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GTX 1070 sits at ~45 FPS while RX 7600 sits at ~82 FPS. Almost double of what GTX 1070 can do. And this is geomean of some latest games.
Namely:
The eight games we're using for our standard GPU benchmarks hierarchy are Borderlands 3 (DX12), Far Cry 6 (DX12), Flight Simulator (DX11 Nvidia, DX12 AMD/Intel), Forza Horizon 5 (DX12), Horizon Zero Dawn (DX12), Red Dead Redemption 2 (Vulkan), Total War Warhammer 3 (DX11), and Watch Dogs Legion (DX12). The fps score is the geometric mean (equal weighting) of the eight games.

No clue what "rasterization' is.
GPU rasterization is simply the process of computing the mapping from scene geometry to pixels. Aka the thing what GPUs mostly do, when playing games (actually generating any kind of image, including your desktop).

Then it started talking about how the top one, the rtx 4090 bottlenecks at 1440 and especially 1080? So the most expensive top of the list GPU bottlenecks at 1080p? That's bad right? lol
There is no such thing as bottleneck.

In every system, performance is limited what the hardware is capable of.

For example, in gaming and e.g CPU bound game (e.g Cities: Skylines), the FPS is limited on what CPU is able to compute. The better the CPU - the more FPS you get. But since CPU bound games are usually slow-paced strategy games, high FPS isn't needed for them. GPU plays a little role in such games.

But for GPU bound games (e.g Cyberpunk 2077), the FPS is limited on what GPU is able to produce. The better the GPU - the more FPS you get. And since most faced-paced games are GPU bound, high FPS matters quite a bit. Due to that, many people upgrade their GPU far often than that of a CPU.

It is nigh-impossible to create a system that utilizes both the CPU and GPU at same level. Well, if you focus on one single game, you can create that balanced system but once you change to another game, all that balance is out of the window.