[SOLVED] Cpu cooler question r5 2600

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So the hyper 212 evo I currently have is old model pre am4. It doesn't have am4 brackets and the bracket kit is eithe impossible to find or overpriced af eith shipping on ebay?

Anyways, I have the ability to sell it for 30$ and grab a wraith prism that's still bnib.
I actually like the way it looks through a glass panel so I'm curious if itll be any good?
I'd like to run my 2600 at 4ghz for gaming. The prism should keep it plenty cool and not be overly loud right?
 
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For 30 bucks, this cooler easily beats both those coolers. Personally I dislike the misinformation regarding the performance of the Wraith coolers. Yes, they perform better than pretty much any stock cooler there's ever been, however, they sacrifice noise to do it. They are not particularly quiet especially when used for overclocking, which they shouldn't be anyhow because they are only rated for stock TDP.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU Cooler: Deepcool - GAMMAXX 400 74.34 CFM CPU Cooler ($16.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $16.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-24 02:08 EST-0500


And the review, indicating it is one of the best entry level 120mm coolers Tom's hardware has ever tested. It even beats out a Noctua NH-U12S that costs more than four times the price, although it IS definitely louder than the U12S by a fair margin, but STILL quieter than any of the Wraith models when used on an overclocked system.

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/deepcool-gammaxx-400-slim-tower-cpu-cooler,4460-2.html

Personally, I think when it comes to CPU coolers, performance should be primary consideration with how it looks being a distant second class criteria, unless it is a strictly aesthetic build and must have a specific look but usually in that case you're talking golden apples compared to golden oranges, so it's all golden anyhow.

 
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Obviously, not free, since he said he would have to "grab one".
 
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Dont think he has mentioned it so obviously.
 
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He was talking about the old cooler, the 212 EVO. Selling the EVO for 30 bucks, which is kind of doubtful used, but that's not really relevant, so assuming 30 bucks then paying 40 bucks for the one he wants, is still a ten dollar investment that won't get you near the performance of a 16 dollar Gammaxx 400, which will in fact be a lot quieter as well.

But sure, either way is an option. And I agree, if he goes with the wraith option he'd better make sure he has good case cooling or it's just going to be blowing hot air down on the CPU. And if he doesn't have good case cooling, preferably with two intakes and two exhaust fans, then that's going to be an additional investment but you'd want to see that cooling set up properly through the case regardless of which, or any, CPU cooler you might choose to go with.
 
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I'm in canada so 30$ for an unused evo that's still in its box is not unreasonable, there 40$+ tax and shipping in some cases here. Even if I get 20$ out of it I'm fine. I bought it for my other desktop with a 965BE cpu but never got around to installing it.

The reason I asked about the prism is I have a guy semi local selling his still bnib for 40$ and I had seen a review comparing AMDs 3 coolers showing the prism getting pretty solid numbers on a 4ghz 2600. Like 58 c° on it under load in blender.

Considering my ram is RGB and so is a small piece on my gpu I thought the prism may fit the bill in my case for looks and performance.

I will mention though that I'm running an mATX setup in a fractal designs meshify C mini case. 2 intakes and 1 exhaust atm on it.

I'm open to other suggestions I just liked how it was a face down rgb cooler that reviewed well on a 2600 as it was designed originally for a 2700x with higher power requirements.

Are there other rgb solutions that don't break the bank? If not I may just get a new stock evo 212, maybe the black model this time and eventually buy fans for it down the road.
 
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I'm telling you, the Gammaxx 400 whips the crap out of the 212 EVO and is less expensive. This has been shown time and time again both in professional reviews and by the enthusiast community in general.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU Cooler: Deepcool - GAMMAXX 400 74.34 CFM CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $24.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-24 11:55 EST-0500


But if you don't want to do that (And of course, you can add LED or RGB fans to any CPU cooler later if you want, so long as you have an RGB controller or your motherboard supports it. Not even necessary for standard LED types) then certainly the 212 EVO is a better option than the Wraith cooler, which itself is admittedly better than any stock cooler I've seen in the past. I would not however use it for any substantial overclocking. It simply is not capable of adequate cooling for sustained high TDP configurations.
 
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Perfect, thank you both for the information.
I'm gonna check k out both and see. Atm if it'll cool my 2600 adequately at 4ghz and under 50$ I'll consider it.

I'm using the msi b450m micro atx gaming plus.
Not a high end board but I made sure to research it quite a bit and it'll handle the 2600@ 4ghz from what I see as long as my case has decent air flow.
Worst case scenario I double up the rear fans eventually if the temps are not comfortable.
I can turn down the oc while I wait if necessary.

 
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If I have either of those coolers set up grabbing air from the front intakes and passing it through the cooler into my rear exhaust it should cool fine and help keep the board temps down some too i would imagine?

I have a nitro+ 580 8gb going in there as well.
 
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Yes, that is exactly how it should be configured. Front fans intake, rear and top fans exhaust. Having at least one of each, intake and exhaust, should be considered "mandatory" for a good cooling configuration. Having more of either, should be considered "better" or "optimal". I like to see a balance, with two intakes and two exhaust, usually the rear and top rear fan locations being utilized for exhaust and either front or bottom locations, or a combination of both, for intake. Most users don't use the bottom fan intake if the case has one because generally the PSU cabling gets in the way anyhow so front intakes are the standard scenario and with any kind of air cooler, those configurations should do the trick.

 
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And actually, for under 40 bucks in the Canadian market, this is probably the very best cooler you will find. If you want the best performance in your market for under 40 bucks, I don't see doing any better than this unit however you may not NEED to have a unit this good. It certainly can't hurt though plus if you ever upgrade to a higher TDP CPU, you'd already have a cooler that was more than capable of supporting it OR if you decide you actually want to be able to ride the overclock you have in mind while also having very little noise from the CPU cooler, this would do the trick.

https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=8_129&item_id=080703
 
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I definitely like that cooler.
My biggest thing is I want to maintain the 4ghz oc with as close to silent operation as possible. I understand under load it may not be 100% quiet but the closer the better.

One thing that worries me with that cooler though.
I'm running Gskill trident Z rgb ram on a micro atx board with a full size rx580 below it.

Can I squeeze that monster in there?
 
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Trident Z isn't particularly tall, but you might want to measure the distance from the top of your CPU to the top of your sticks, and then compare that to the specifications on the heatsink product page from the bottom of the heatsink to where the fins begin to be sure.

I don't think you'd have too much problem. You might have to slide the fan up on the cooler JUST a little bit, maybe. Each board is slightly different as well, so you'd really have to determine that for yourself, but that cooler is fairly tall from base to the bottom of the fins where the cooler would sit flush with them, so ??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Sdufbv2c1Q


If you are only running two sticks, it might not even have any problem as the first slot is usually the one that's a problem but on some coolers it can be both slots closest to the cooler. I believe memory clearance is the REASON they made a v2, because the original version DID have memory clearance issues.
 
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Not a great cooler. Not a bad one either. Should do well enough, and it certainly LOOKS nice, so that's a plus. Has to be considerably better than the wraith coolers, but I'm only seeing about a 3-4 degree difference between the Gammaxx GT and the 212 EVO, so expect it to not be particularly quiet and if you were looking for considerable gains over the performance of the CM 212 EVO, I wouldn't be too surprised if you don't see that. The plus side is, you can probably add second fan to the back of that cooler if you have the room, using the same fan that's on the front OR a better fan with a higher CFM, and drop a few more degrees off the max temp later on if you feel you don't get the performance you're looking for.
 
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I was leaning towards other higher performance models like the dark rock but there so much bulkier that they would not squeeze in next to my ram unfortunately. This one is small enough to sit next to my ram and I'll be using it in a push pull so for my moderate overclock I think itll be ok.
The ram being rgb I'd like it to be visible and the model of cooler I got is the TUF version so it has rgb fan and a black cover on top of the fins that is also rgb so I think itll look nice and perform decent. At 10$ more then the rgb hyper with a slight performance increase I'm happy if it works as intended.

As of right now with the stealth cooler I cant even tell the desktop is even on at idle, until I fire up a game and even with open back headphones with a game running it's still pretty much silent.

I think the end game since I'll be keeping this pc for a good 4 years is to ultimately upgrade the fans and install a fan hub to control them so I can keep it cool and quiet.
 
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Also, surprisingly.
With no overclock on the 2600 I've yet to hit 70C° while gaming with the stock cooler.

Other coolers I looked are the
Phantek PH-TC12DX
Cryorig H7

I like the black heatsink look better the the polished look honestly. And I like heatsinks with a top plate as opposed to the plain look.

Would either of thos be more worth it? I can easily return the gammaxx gt and get either of them at the same price.
 
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Either of those are better coolers. The Phanteks is probably marginally better than the H7, which is probably marginally better than the GT. I'd go with Phanteks if it were me, although Cryorig is nothing to sneeze at either and all of their coolers have very good performance. They also have better fans, higher quality and quieter, than pretty much ANY of the Deepcool fans on any of their coolers. Deepcool is mainly a good budget choice. The performance is gained mostly through sheer brute force of the fans, which means they are not generally quiet on overclocked systems, but it's your call. You already have the Deepcool so.....
 
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