[SOLVED] CPU doubts

[Dovah94]

Hi,
My brother getting a new PC. He plan to use it for a long run. First, he will buy PC without GPU and use it for programs that I will let you know in a moment, and when the right moment comes he will add powerful graphic card too (not lower than RTX 2060, probably 3060 Ti), and then he will play the games.
As I said, the question is programs... These programs are: autocad, revit, video-editing and similar.
I told him to get i5 10400 (that has integrated GPU) but he asking what about i7 10700? Then we saw that i5 11400 have something stronger GPU and now we dont know what is best solution... I saw Ryzen 5600G today and then ask myself is that probably the thing we need?
Does it make sense to take anything of these for programs that he will use? These programs are going to work or no?

 

[COLGeek]

All of the CPUs you mentioned will support the applications/functions described. No issues there.

Really a matter of budget and preference. I suggest starting a thread in the systems section, providing details so members can make recommendations to meet your needs and budget.

Use this thread as a guide for seeking advice: https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/how-to-ask-for-new-build-or-upgrade-advice.528714/

 

[popatim]

Some of those just run better on Intel but without a dedicated GPU they will need to use software processing instead of GPU Acceleration and therefor they will run longer.

I would definitely get the i7 the 10700k is often cheaper then the 10700

 

[Dovah94]

Hi,
My brother getting a new PC. He plan to use it for a long run. First, he will buy PC without GPU and use it for programs that I will let you know in a moment, and when the right moment comes he will add powerful graphic card too (not lower than RTX 2060, probably 3060 Ti), and then he will play the games.
As I said, the question is programs... These programs are: autocad, revit, video-editing and similar.
I told him to get i5 10400 (that has integrated GPU) but he asking what about i7 10700? Then we saw that i5 11400 have something stronger GPU and now we dont know what is best solution... I saw Ryzen 5600G today and then ask myself is that probably the thing we need?
Does it make sense to take anything of these for programs that he will use? These programs are going to work or no?
If decision falls on Intel, no matter of what of these CPUs, I think that any of these MBOs will do right. Let me hear your opinion, then we will eventualy talk about other parts.

ASUS PRIME H570M-PLUS,
GIGABYTE B560M D3H (rev. 1.0)
ASRock B560M Pro4

 

[geofelt]

Integrated graphics is plenty for normal usage, excepting fast action games.
Some apps can use graphics adapters(integrated or discrete) to speed up processing.
Check the proposed apps for such support.

For the long run, I would go with current 11th gen Intel, like the i5-11600K
It should be cheaper than the i7-10700 and faster

You can assess the capabilities of a proposed processor by searching for their passmark benchmark ratings.
You will get the number of processing threads, the strength when all threads are 100% used, and the single thread rating.
The total number is important for multithreaded apps like editing.
The single thread rating is more important for games and general work.
Here is the rating for the I7-10700: 16 threads and a rating of 17202/2949:
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-10700+@+2.90GHz&id=3747
I5-11600K 12 threads 20009/3384
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-11600K+@+3.90GHz&id=4236

5600G is similar, 12 threads, 20063/3220
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Ryzen+5+5600G&id=4325

To confuse the issue a bit more, Intel will launch the next gen Alder lake processors soon.
It may be prudent to wait to see what that might bring.

 

[Eximo]

Well, you have a few graphics applications in there, and some CPU intensive requirements. Depending on what you are doing in said programs, having dedicated VRAM might be worthwhile. So consider a cheap graphics card for now, there are a few relatively cheap Quadros you can still get like the P400 or P600.

i7-10700 or i7-11700 do make some sense, particularly for video editing. If you wanted to keep it a little cheaper and still want the better performing Intel graphics, then the i5-11500 is the first that includes the HD750 (roughly a GT740 in performance)

Ryzen 5600G and 5700G are your best options for integrated graphics, they do limit you to 8x PCIe lanes later when you add a graphics card though, and are relatively expensive.

B560 is the recommended chipset for an Intel CPU, has most features and allows for memory overclocking (ie setting XMP profiles) 3200Mhz memory is fine. H class boards generally offer a few more connection options over B class boards, basically the Z boards without overclocking.

For AMD the recommended chipset is B550. Allows full overclocking and has most necessary features. X570 boards for heavy duty use and additional features.

 

[Dovah94]

Decision is likely going to i5 11400. But someone told me to buy good cooling because this CPU sometimes push off it's frequency. Can you tell me is this cooling good. It's water cooling.
It's a: LC-CC-120-LiCo.
And motherboard could be: GIGABYTE B560 HD3 (rev. 1.0).
It's very important.

 

[Eximo]

Most 120mm AIO are not worth it really. Cheaper tower cooler with a 120mm fan is often the better choice. 240mm radiator would be better if you want water cooling.

Consider things like the Cooler Master Hyper Eco 212, and variants. Deepcool Gammaxx 400. be quiet! Pure Rock and other similar products.

11th gen chips can run hot, but you are mostly hearing about people who have removed the power limits. Basically a form of overclocking without having access to chance the clock multiplier.