Question CPU overheating. Gets worse with it. Be quiet cooler than stock cooler now it is even hotter. With amd stock cooler

[Killer2004!]

Hi, I need help so I got a 5700x
Amd 4070 ti my case is the Thermaltake Versa H17 Black SPCC Micro AT
So my problem is I got a aftermarket Be quiet pure rock slim 2
When I put it into my case, my CPU temperature increases instead of decreases even more than stock cooler I put in back my stock cooler back in and my temperatures are still 85- 87° when I tested with 3-D mark
I’m kind of unsure what to do should I try to clean my stock cooler and then apply Thermal paste again or clean the aftermarket cooler because that one at idle currently is 60° which is a problem for CPU so Thermal paste again or clean the aftermarket cooler because that one at idle currently is 60° which is a problem for CPU any solutions or advice would be appreciated!

 

[helpstar]

how do you measure the temperature?

did you remove the plastic foil from your coolers?
which thermal paste did you use?
did you clean the cpu before installing the aftermarket cooler?
did you plugin the cpu fan into cpu fan header of your motherboard?
is the fan spinning?

 

[Killer2004!]

how do you measure the temperature?

did you remove the plastic foil from your coolers?
which thermal paste did you use?
did you clean the cpu before installing the aftermarket cooler?
did you plugin the cpu fan into cpu fan header of your motherboard?
is the fan spinning?

Yes, the fan is spinning. I measured The temperature by running benchmarks I removed the plastic foil from the cooler The CPU was new, so I didn’t have to clean it when I installed the aftermarket cooler what I didn’t do is clean the stock cooler. The thermal paste was Corsair performance thermal paste I’m really not sure how to approach. This temperatures are not stable so I will both clean the aftermarket and start cooler and see if there’s a change will update to let you know.

 

[NedSmelly]

Assuming the issues mentioned by @helpstar are addressed... what power profile is set in your motherboard BIOS for the CPU? Just curious whether you have Precision Boost Overdrive settings that are maxing out turbo, with the rather svelte Pure Rock Slim 2 struggling to keep up.

 

[helpstar]

Did you update the BIOS of your motherboard yet?

 

[Killer2004!]

Assuming the issues mentioned by @helpstar are addressed... what power profile is set in your motherboard BIOS for the CPU? Just curious whether you have Precision Boost Overdrive settings that are maxing out turbo, with the rather svelte Pure Rock Slim 2 struggling to keep up.

Assuming the issues mentioned by @helpstar are addressed... what power profile is set in your motherboard BIOS for the CPU? Just curious whether you have Precision Boost Overdrive settings that are maxing out turbo, with the rather svelte Pure Rock Slim 2 struggling to keep up.

Will check that out but I haven’t had a problem before this, so not sure

 

[Killer2004!]

Did you update the BIOS of your motherboard yet?

Yep, I did first thing I did

 

[helpstar]

how hot is it getting in BIOS after about 10min?

 

[TerryLaze]

The stock cooler is blowing air to the VRMs the tower cooler isn't, does anybody know if that could affect CPU temps?

 

[Killer2004!]

how hot is it getting

 

[Killer2004!]

Currently around 62° with aftermarket cooler in bios 10 minutes and I seriously don’t know what is the problem. I cleaned both the CPU and the aftermarket cooler and it’s still super bad.

 

[Killer2004!]

how hot is it getting in BIOS after about 10min?

Currently around 62° with aftermarket cooler in bios 10 minutes and I seriously don’t know what is the problem. I cleaned both the CPU and the aftermarket cooler and it’s still super bad.

 

[Killer2004!]

Currently around 62° with aftermarket cooler in bios 10 minutes and I seriously don’t know what is the problem. I cleaned both the CPU and the aftermarket cooler and it’s still super bad.

Do you guys think I should just put back the stock cooler and see if I clean it properly cause I always thought aftermarket cooler would give me more cooling but obviously it’s not working, I don’t understand how a better coolers give me your worst temp

 

[NedSmelly]

Idling at around 50C with the stock Wraith cooler is kinda normal, depending on ambient room temp. If the BeQuiet is worse than that at idle, then it's possible the cooler is faulty (e.g. cracked heat pipe).

This is assuming all contact surfaces are OK, your pasting is OK, airflow is OK, and BIOS power settings are all standard. I'm getting the vibe that some critical info is missing here though regarding your setup.

Let us know which is cooler at idle, with the lid off the case, along with the room temp.

AFAIK the Pure Rock Slim 2 isn't that much of an upgrade over the Wraith Spire. Maybe a bit quieter, but it's still only "125W TDP" rated. I would have recommended something with at least a 120mm fan and 4 heat pipes for a 5700X. I'd seriously consider exchanging it for something like a Pure Rock 2 or Dark Rock Slim if you can do this.

EDIT: Also where are you getting your temp readings from? Are you sure you're reading the CPU, and not the VRM?

 

[helpstar]

BIOS is not IDLE, so it´s quite normal temp. @60
How did you measure the temp. in windows? Try using coretemp or HWMonitor

uninstall all 3rd party tuning tools

to have a look what the problem could be:
run userbenchmark.com and post the http link of your result, e.g. https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/28977730

check windows integrity
open the command prompt as administrator and type DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth
https://www.lifewire.com/how-to-open-an-elevated-command-prompt-2618088
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us...em-files/bc609315-da1f-4775-812c-695b60477a93

clean boot
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/929135/how-to-perform-a-clean-boot-in-windows

 

[Killer2004!]

Do you guys think I should just put back the stock cooler and see if I clean it properly cause I always thought aftermarket cooler would give me more cooling but obviously it’s not working, I don’t understand how a better coolers give me your worst temp

Idling at around 50C with the stock Wraith cooler is kinda normal, depending on ambient room temp. If the BeQuiet is worse than that at idle, then it's possible the cooler is faulty (e.g. cracked heat pipe).

This is assuming all contact surfaces are OK, your pasting is OK, airflow is OK, and BIOS power settings are all standard. I'm getting the vibe that some critical info is missing here though regarding your setup.

Let us know which is cooler at idle, with the lid off the case, along with the room temp.

AFAIK the Pure Rock Slim 2 isn't that much of an upgrade over the Wraith Spire. Maybe a bit quieter, but it's still only "125W TDP" rated. I would have recommended something with at least a 120mm fan and 4 heat pipes for a 5700X.

Nothing is really missing right now at idle I have a 4070 TI 750 psu thermal take I also have a pro4 450 motherboard Asus OK currently I have the aftermarket cooler installed. Hardware monitor. This is what it says in windows with aftermarket when nothing at all is on. Ps Yeah, maybe I should’ve got a better one, but I looked at the tdp of my CPU and thought that it could’ve done a better job it my bad next upgrade I guess my case is a micro TX Thermaltake Versa H17 Black my case is a little bit not good for air, but it was better when I put my stock cooler in so that’s why I’m confused initially I’m just stuck to be honest but thanks for the feedback though.

 

[Killer2004!]

Idling at around 50C with the stock Wraith cooler is kinda normal, depending on ambient room temp. If the BeQuiet is worse than that at idle, then it's possible the cooler is faulty (e.g. cracked heat pipe).

This is assuming all contact surfaces are OK, your pasting is OK, airflow is OK, and BIOS power settings are all standard. I'm getting the vibe that some critical info is missing here though regarding your setup.

Let us know which is cooler at idle, with the lid off the case, along with the room temp.

AFAIK the Pure Rock Slim 2 isn't that much of an upgrade over the Wraith Spire. Maybe a bit quieter, but it's still only "125W TDP" rated. I would have recommended something with at least a 120mm fan and 4 heat pipes for a 5700X. I'd seriously consider exchanging it for something like a Pure Rock 2 or Dark Rock Slim if you can do this.

EDIT: Also where are you getting your temp readings from? Are you sure you're reading the CPU, and not the VRM?

So right now at idle hardware monitor 37°. Core temps is 33 That’s when nothing is going on and 100% my bad on the cooler choice I thought that it would be better because of the TDP on my CPU but I guess I was wrong

 

[NedSmelly]

So right now at idle hardware monitor 37°. Core temps is 33 That’s when nothing is going on and 100% my bad on the cooler choice I thought that it would be better because of the TDP on my CPU but I guess I was wrong

No worries, there's actually nothing wrong with the standard Wraith cooler. Maybe a little noisier than aftermarket, but it gets the job done. But if you're going to do aftermarket then might as well go big, as your H17 case can definitely fit a 120mm CPU cooler fan.

 

[Killer2004!]

So right now at idle hardware monitor 37°. Core temps is 33 That’s why nothing is going on and 100% my bad on the cooler choice I thought that it would be better because of the TDP on my CPU but I guess I was wrong

Do you think I should run through the Mark?

No worries, there's actually nothing wrong with the standard Wraith cooler. Maybe a little noisier than aftermarket, but it gets the job done. But if you're going to do aftermarket then might as well go big, as your H17 case can definitely fit a 120mm CPU cooler

I was going to tell you, but my case is a thermal take mini ATX caseThermaltake Versa H17 Black Is that the problem?

 

[Killer2004!]

Do you think I should run through the Mark?

I was going to tell you, but my case is a thermal take mini ATX caseThermaltake Versa H17 Black Is that the problem?

4070 TI 5700 X maybe that’s just not a good combination because if that’s the case I have no other CPUs to use as of right now

 

[NedSmelly]

I was going to tell you, but my case is a thermal take mini ATX caseThermaltake Versa H17 Black Is that the problem?

Only if there's no airflow. If temps are OK with the cover off, but skyrocket with the cover on, then you need to fix the case's airflow.

 

[thestryker]

What cooler are you talking about when you say "stock"? The 5700x doesn't come with a cooler.

The pure rock slim 2 is a low end cooler, and while I don't necessarily think this is the problem you'd be better served by a good cooler either way. Depending on where you are located Deepcool and Thermalright have the best budget offerings.

Your case is poorly designed with regards to airflow so I'd guess this is the primary source of heat issues. Solid front panel without another place for intake is going to choke anything when there's high power usage.

 

[beyondlogic]

4070 TI 5700 X maybe that’s just not a good combination because if that’s the case I have no other CPUs to use as of right now

Id recommend replacing the whole case tbh it's quite the hot box there's barely any venting and not much in way for fresh air to get in.

However there's a other option which is get some fans in the from 3x120mm fan

Replace the garbage rear 120mm it probly barely pushes any hot air out the case.

And one 140mm or 120 fan in the top pushing air out as well.

I recommend these if on a budget pack of 5 because the case is sealed at front with very little airflow I recommend static pressure fans to push air forward

Amazon.co.uk

Would recommend the CPU cooler changed as well as it isn't going to be a great time.
Max cooler height is 155cm


This cooler is 148cm-152 give or take so should fit fine.


https://www.amazon.co.uk/Thermalrig...01&sprefix=thermal+right+coole,aps,243&sr=8-3

 

[NedSmelly]

Id recommend replacing the whole case tbh it's quite the hot box there's barely any venting and not much in way for fresh air to get in.

I agree with @beyondlogic - by the time you populate your existing case with extra fans it will probably cost the same if not more than a new case that still flows better.

if it was me and I had no money, I’d just rip the front panel off and have it dangling by the front button/port wires to open up the ventilation. And/or run it without the side panel.

 

[beyondlogic]

I agree with @beyondlogic - by the time you populate your existing case with extra fans it will probably cost the same if not more than a new case that still flows better.

if it was me and I had no money, I’d just rip the front panel off and have it dangling by the front button/port wires to open up the ventilation. And/or run it without the side panel.

Side panel off would probly be better as GPU is just dumping heat. If zero money. But fans and cooler would still be cheaper then a decent case with airflow. That fan in the rear being replaced with a better quality one would drop temps even. With a max speed of 1000rpm it's probly pushing out a very small amount of air. That and case wasn't designed with a 4070 ti heat load heat rises so it's probly making the CPU even hotter