CPU overheating with after-market cooler

[FlippyTheHalfwit]

I've noticed that my CPU's overheating even though I have a aftermarket cooler. In total I have 4 fans in my case: 1 120mm fan in the front (intake), 1 80mm fan in the back (exhaust), and a push, pull setup on my Hyper TX3 EVO CPU cooler. The CPU even hits ~96°C on heavy gaming. The thermal paste is put on correctly, or at least I think it is.

What could be the problem?

My specs (if it changes anything):
CPU: AMD Trinity A10-5800K (4.2 GHz OC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master TX3 EVO (Double Fan Setup: intake - stock, exhaust - Be Quiet Pure Wings 2)
GPU: MSI R9 270 Gaming 2G
MOBO: ASRock FM2A75M-DGS
RAM: 2x4GB Kingston 1333mhz
PSU: Chieftec 500w gpa-500s8
Case: Aerocool V3X Evil Green

Any tips would be appreciated.

 

[Darkbreeze]

Did the problem begin with the aftermarket cooler or did it run normally for a period of time and begin doing it recently. My first thought is that the orientation of the fans is incorrect. If the fan closest to the center of the case isn't blowing towards the cooler and the outermost fan blowing away from the cooler, or if both coolers are blowing toward the heatsink, it won't work. I know that sounds pathetically stupid, but it's an easy mistake to make.

Double check that one is pushing and one pulling and that together they are in fact blowing towards the exhaust fan on the case.

On a side not, I highly recommend you consider replacing your PSU before it causes you trouble. Chieftec PSUs are among some of the worst units available and are cheap OEM replacement units not designed for mid to high end rigs. Their failure rates are high, and often spectacular. Your rig requires a Tier 3 or higher PSU, preferably a Tier 2 B or higher unit from the Tier list at the following link. Of course it's your rig, you can do what you like, it's just a recommendation based on known quality. I'm sure it's meets stock specs, but is unlikely to be reliable with an overclocked rig or an aftermarket GPU.

Tier list: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-1804779/power-supply-unit-tier-list.html

Why we don't use cheap PSUs on our rigs: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/low-cost-psu-pc-power-supply,2862.html

 

[Arcanine300]

That r9 270 could be kicking out a fair amount of heat and the tx3 cooler isn't the greatest. You could try re applying thermal paste but i think getting an upgraded cooler asap as the max temp for amd cpus are ~67C. I would recommend something like a Noctua NH-U9B SE2 or even something more beafy like a noctua nh-d14 (if you have the money).

 

[mlga91]

What is your current Vcore?

 

[FlippyTheHalfwit]

Did the problem begin with the aftermarket cooler or did it run normally for a period of time and begin doing it recently. My first thought is that the orientation of the fans is incorrect. If the fan closest to the center of the case isn't blowing towards the cooler and the outermost fan blowing away from the cooler, or if both coolers are blowing toward the heatsink, it won't work. I know that sounds pathetically stupid, but it's an easy mistake to make.

Double check that one is pushing and one pulling and that together they are in fact blowing towards the exhaust fan on the case.

On a side not, I highly recommend you consider replacing your PSU before it causes you trouble. Chieftec PSUs are among some of the worst units available and are cheap OEM replacement units not designed for mid to high end rigs. Their failure rates are high, and often spectacular. Your rig requires a Tier 3 or higher PSU, preferably a Tier 2 B or higher unit from the Tier list at the following link. Of course it's your rig, you can do what you like, it's just a recommendation based on known quality. I'm sure it's meets stock specs, but is unlikely to be reliable with an overclocked rig or an aftermarket GPU.

Tier list: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-1804779/power-supply-unit-tier-list.html

Why we don't use cheap PSUs on our rigs: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/low-cost-psu-pc-power-supply,2862.html

The first time I noticed the problem was before I bought and installed the aftermarket cooler, once I put it in my case I never really checked. I read somewhere, that CPUID has problems with APU's, so I figured I should check what the BIOS says. When I entered the BIOS, it says that the idle temperature is about 30-35°C, but the lowest idle temp I got with CPUID was 46°C. Since yesterday, when I wrote this thread, I've tried some other temperature measuring programs: Speedfan & AIDA 64. Both of them showed ~30-35°C on idle and ~40-60°C when gaming.

Oh and about the PSU, it came with my original case, I know I should buy a new one, but I currently don't have the funds. I'm thinking of buying either an Enermax or a Corsair PSU.

 

[FlippyTheHalfwit]

That r9 270 could be kicking out a fair amount of heat and the tx3 cooler isn't the greatest. You could try re applying thermal paste but i think getting an upgraded cooler asap as the max temp for amd cpus are ~67C. I would recommend something like a Noctua NH-U9B SE2 or even something more beafy like a noctua nh-d14 (if you have the money).

The BIOS says that while idle the temps are ~35°C, and other temp measuring programs beside CPUID, like SpeedFan and AIDA64 says the same thing.

(I picked your answer as the solution by accident, but there you go. 😀)

 

[Ryanrenesis]

Did the problem begin with the aftermarket cooler or did it run normally for a period of time and begin doing it recently. My first thought is that the orientation of the fans is incorrect. If the fan closest to the center of the case isn't blowing towards the cooler and the outermost fan blowing away from the cooler, or if both coolers are blowing toward the heatsink, it won't work. I know that sounds pathetically stupid, but it's an easy mistake to make.

Double check that one is pushing and one pulling and that together they are in fact blowing towards the exhaust fan on the case.

On a side not, I highly recommend you consider replacing your PSU before it causes you trouble. Chieftec PSUs are among some of the worst units available and are cheap OEM replacement units not designed for mid to high end rigs. Their failure rates are high, and often spectacular. Your rig requires a Tier 3 or higher PSU, preferably a Tier 2 B or higher unit from the Tier list at the following link. Of course it's your rig, you can do what you like, it's just a recommendation based on known quality. I'm sure it's meets stock specs, but is unlikely to be reliable with an overclocked rig or an aftermarket GPU.

Tier list: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-1804779/power-supply-unit-tier-list.html

Why we don't use cheap PSUs on our rigs: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/low-cost-psu-pc-power-supply,2862.html

The first time I noticed the problem was before I bought and installed the aftermarket cooler, once I put it in my case I never really checked. I read somewhere, that CPUID has problems with APU's, so I figured I should check what the BIOS says. When I entered the BIOS, it says that the idle temperature is about 30-35°C, but the lowest idle temp I got with CPUID was 46°C. Since yesterday, when I wrote this thread, I've tried some other temperature measuring programs: Speedfan & AIDA 64. Both of them showed ~30-35°C on idle and ~40-60°C when gaming.

Oh and about the PSU, it came with my original case, I know I should buy a new one, but I currently don't have the funds. I'm thinking of buying either an Enermax or a Corsair PSU.

Regarding the PSU, you should consider the Rosewill Capstone 450W Gold-Certified power supply. It is only $60. In independent reviews, it was found that it is so efficient, it should be rated 80+ Platinum.

It is also enough to power your A10-5800K and R9 270.

If you plan on CrossFire, get the 650W version for $75 ($60 after rebate).

 

[FlippyTheHalfwit]

Did the problem begin with the aftermarket cooler or did it run normally for a period of time and begin doing it recently. My first thought is that the orientation of the fans is incorrect. If the fan closest to the center of the case isn't blowing towards the cooler and the outermost fan blowing away from the cooler, or if both coolers are blowing toward the heatsink, it won't work. I know that sounds pathetically stupid, but it's an easy mistake to make.

Double check that one is pushing and one pulling and that together they are in fact blowing towards the exhaust fan on the case.

On a side not, I highly recommend you consider replacing your PSU before it causes you trouble. Chieftec PSUs are among some of the worst units available and are cheap OEM replacement units not designed for mid to high end rigs. Their failure rates are high, and often spectacular. Your rig requires a Tier 3 or higher PSU, preferably a Tier 2 B or higher unit from the Tier list at the following link. Of course it's your rig, you can do what you like, it's just a recommendation based on known quality. I'm sure it's meets stock specs, but is unlikely to be reliable with an overclocked rig or an aftermarket GPU.

Tier list: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-1804779/power-supply-unit-tier-list.html

Why we don't use cheap PSUs on our rigs: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/low-cost-psu-pc-power-supply,2862.html

The first time I noticed the problem was before I bought and installed the aftermarket cooler, once I put it in my case I never really checked. I read somewhere, that CPUID has problems with APU's, so I figured I should check what the BIOS says. When I entered the BIOS, it says that the idle temperature is about 30-35°C, but the lowest idle temp I got with CPUID was 46°C. Since yesterday, when I wrote this thread, I've tried some other temperature measuring programs: Speedfan & AIDA 64. Both of them showed ~30-35°C on idle and ~40-60°C when gaming.

Oh and about the PSU, it came with my original case, I know I should buy a new one, but I currently don't have the funds. I'm thinking of buying either an Enermax or a Corsair PSU.

Regarding the PSU, you should consider the Rosewill Capstone 450W Gold-Certified power supply. It is only $60. In independent reviews, it was found that it is so efficient, it should be rated 80+ Platinum.

It is also enough to power your A10-5800K and R9 270.

If you plan on CrossFire, get the 650W version for $75 ($60 after rebate).

I can't order anything from the internet because, well, my credit card doesn't allow it, and I really don't want to go back to the bank again, but how about this corsair one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027? It's pretty cheap, and has pretty good reviews.

 

[Ryanrenesis]

Did the problem begin with the aftermarket cooler or did it run normally for a period of time and begin doing it recently. My first thought is that the orientation of the fans is incorrect. If the fan closest to the center of the case isn't blowing towards the cooler and the outermost fan blowing away from the cooler, or if both coolers are blowing toward the heatsink, it won't work. I know that sounds pathetically stupid, but it's an easy mistake to make.

Double check that one is pushing and one pulling and that together they are in fact blowing towards the exhaust fan on the case.

On a side not, I highly recommend you consider replacing your PSU before it causes you trouble. Chieftec PSUs are among some of the worst units available and are cheap OEM replacement units not designed for mid to high end rigs. Their failure rates are high, and often spectacular. Your rig requires a Tier 3 or higher PSU, preferably a Tier 2 B or higher unit from the Tier list at the following link. Of course it's your rig, you can do what you like, it's just a recommendation based on known quality. I'm sure it's meets stock specs, but is unlikely to be reliable with an overclocked rig or an aftermarket GPU.

Tier list: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-1804779/power-supply-unit-tier-list.html

Why we don't use cheap PSUs on our rigs: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/low-cost-psu-pc-power-supply,2862.html

The first time I noticed the problem was before I bought and installed the aftermarket cooler, once I put it in my case I never really checked. I read somewhere, that CPUID has problems with APU's, so I figured I should check what the BIOS says. When I entered the BIOS, it says that the idle temperature is about 30-35°C, but the lowest idle temp I got with CPUID was 46°C. Since yesterday, when I wrote this thread, I've tried some other temperature measuring programs: Speedfan & AIDA 64. Both of them showed ~30-35°C on idle and ~40-60°C when gaming.

Oh and about the PSU, it came with my original case, I know I should buy a new one, but I currently don't have the funds. I'm thinking of buying either an Enermax or a Corsair PSU.

Regarding the PSU, you should consider the Rosewill Capstone 450W Gold-Certified power supply. It is only $60. In independent reviews, it was found that it is so efficient, it should be rated 80+ Platinum.

It is also enough to power your A10-5800K and R9 270.

If you plan on CrossFire, get the 650W version for $75 ($60 after rebate).

I can't order anything from the internet because, well, my credit card doesn't allow it, and I really don't want to go back to the bank again, but how about this corsair one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027? It's pretty cheap, and has pretty good reviews.

That link leads to a missing item lol.

So can't you just go to the newegg or microcenter store and get the PSU I mentioned? Corsair's a good brand but their lower end PSUs aren't that great. Honestly, there's no better PSU currently than the Rosewill Capstone series in terms of price/performance ratio.

 

[FlippyTheHalfwit]

Did the problem begin with the aftermarket cooler or did it run normally for a period of time and begin doing it recently. My first thought is that the orientation of the fans is incorrect. If the fan closest to the center of the case isn't blowing towards the cooler and the outermost fan blowing away from the cooler, or if both coolers are blowing toward the heatsink, it won't work. I know that sounds pathetically stupid, but it's an easy mistake to make.

Double check that one is pushing and one pulling and that together they are in fact blowing towards the exhaust fan on the case.

On a side not, I highly recommend you consider replacing your PSU before it causes you trouble. Chieftec PSUs are among some of the worst units available and are cheap OEM replacement units not designed for mid to high end rigs. Their failure rates are high, and often spectacular. Your rig requires a Tier 3 or higher PSU, preferably a Tier 2 B or higher unit from the Tier list at the following link. Of course it's your rig, you can do what you like, it's just a recommendation based on known quality. I'm sure it's meets stock specs, but is unlikely to be reliable with an overclocked rig or an aftermarket GPU.

Tier list: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-1804779/power-supply-unit-tier-list.html

Why we don't use cheap PSUs on our rigs: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/low-cost-psu-pc-power-supply,2862.html

The first time I noticed the problem was before I bought and installed the aftermarket cooler, once I put it in my case I never really checked. I read somewhere, that CPUID has problems with APU's, so I figured I should check what the BIOS says. When I entered the BIOS, it says that the idle temperature is about 30-35°C, but the lowest idle temp I got with CPUID was 46°C. Since yesterday, when I wrote this thread, I've tried some other temperature measuring programs: Speedfan & AIDA 64. Both of them showed ~30-35°C on idle and ~40-60°C when gaming.

Oh and about the PSU, it came with my original case, I know I should buy a new one, but I currently don't have the funds. I'm thinking of buying either an Enermax or a Corsair PSU.

Regarding the PSU, you should consider the Rosewill Capstone 450W Gold-Certified power supply. It is only $60. In independent reviews, it was found that it is so efficient, it should be rated 80+ Platinum.

It is also enough to power your A10-5800K and R9 270.

If you plan on CrossFire, get the 650W version for $75 ($60 after rebate).

I can't order anything from the internet because, well, my credit card doesn't allow it, and I really don't want to go back to the bank again, but how about this corsair one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027? It's pretty cheap, and has pretty good reviews.

That link leads to a missing item lol.

So can't you just go to the newegg or microcenter store and get the PSU I mentioned? Corsair's a good brand but their lower end PSUs aren't that great. Honestly, there's no better PSU currently than the Rosewill Capstone series in terms of price/performance ratio.

lol, the link just worked. Oh well, I'll look in to it, probably will get it in the end. Thanks for the help!