[SOLVED] Cpu temp

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I just got the intel i9-9900kf and the temperature readings are off the charts popping open a game of csgo instantly brings it up to 90-100 and closing the game INSTANTLY drops it back down to 50-mid 40's ive had the same stock cpu cooler ive always had and my last processor didnt have this issue is the processor really getting that hot? Because inspecting it at all doesnt seem to be nearly that hot
 
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... i9-9900kf ... temperature readings ... instantly ... 90-100 ... closing the game INSTANTLY drops it back down to 50-mid 40's ... same stock cpu cooler ive always had ... my last processor didnt have this issue ... is the processor really getting that hot? inspecting it at all doesnt seem to be nearly that hot
Cryptixg,

We need to clarify several points for you.

(1) Here's the nominal operating range for Core temperature:

Core temperatures above 85°C are not recommended.

Core temperatures below 80°C are ideal.

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(2) Core temperatures...
You're using your stock cooler from your previous CPU? You shouldn't be doing this when you talk about stock cooler. Maybe if you had an aftermarket cooler.

Your 9900kf is a 95Watts TDP CPU. You need a good cooler to keep this heater cooled.

The 9900k requires using one of the best air cooler or an AIO like the kraken x62.

What was your previous CPU?
 

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You're using your stock cooler from your previous CPU? What was your previous CPU?

Your 9900kf is a 95Watts TDP CPU. You need a good cooler to keep this heater cooled.

The 9900k requires using one of the best air cooler or an AIO like the kraken x62.
My previous cooler was the i5-7500
 

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... i9-9900kf ... temperature readings ... instantly ... 90-100 ... closing the game INSTANTLY drops it back down to 50-mid 40's ... same stock cpu cooler ive always had ... my last processor didnt have this issue ... is the processor really getting that hot? inspecting it at all doesnt seem to be nearly that hot
Cryptixg,

We need to clarify several points for you.

(1) Here's the nominal operating range for Core temperature:

Core temperatures above 85°C are not recommended.

Core temperatures below 80°C are ideal.

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(2) Core temperatures respond instantly to changes in load.

Intel’s specification for Digital Thermal Sensor (DTS) response time is 256 milliseconds, or about 1/4th of a second. It’s completely normal and expected for Core temperatures to “INSTANTLY” increase and decrease.

(3) As Nemesia and boju have already pointed out, the 95 Watt Thermal Design Power (TDP) i9-9900 "K" variants are easily capable of exceeding upwards of 200 Watts, so high-end air or liquid cooling is absolutely crucial. You can not use a 65 Watt TDP stock cooler designed for a 65 Watt TDP i5-7500 and expect that it will maintain reasonable Core temperatures on your i9-9900KF at any more than a very light workload.

(4) Yes, without high-end cooling, the i9-9900 "K" really does get "that hot". This processor requires the very best air coolers, or a minimum 280 AIO, or preferably a 360 AIO, or a good custom loop.

(5) Trying to check thermal performance by touch is like feeling a fireplace from 3 meters (10 feet). Since hundreds of millions of microscopic nanometer scale transistors are densely packaged into a tiny Die, heat dissipates over relatively large areas and thermal gradients to the cooler, which is a considerable distance from the Cores at about 3 millimeters (0.1 inch); 3 millimeters = 3,000,000 nanometers.

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Although some heat dissipates to the substrate, socket and motherboard, most heat dissipates to the cooler through several thermal gradients; Cores > Die > internal TIM > IHS > external TIM > cooler. Consequently, even at 100% workload nothing will feel hot; exhaust airflow, heat pipes, cooling fins, radiator or water block will only feel warm, and liquid cooling tubes will have just a moderate temperature differential.

If you look at the top of each of our Forums, we have "Stickies" which are helpful and informative resources that are permanently "Stuck" in place so they're always available for everyone's benefit. If you look at the top of our CPUs Forum, there's a Sticky that will bring you up to speed on this topic; Intel Temperature Guide. You might want to give it a read.

CT :sol:
 
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i feel so dumb after reading all of these lol im really just a rookie i do have the budget for a water cooler but just not sure if my case would fit it i have an ol rinky dinky corsair carbide 100R and i dont know the dimensons for the fans
 

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100R supports upto 150mm coolers. The best coolers are bit over 160mm. Bit of a dilemma here. The best you can get for that case is the Cryorig H7 145mm but is only rated at 140w, It isn't ideal unless you power limit the cpu which you obviously wouldn't want to be doing that.

If still want to pursue air, Dark Rock or Noctua D15 being 250w is what you need. An idea might be to leave the case cover off whilst looking for a new case.

You're better off getting a better case with 2 or more unrestricted intake fans (no front panel), and rear / top exhaust. Your i9 will thank you for it.

Some suggestions

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ZH...s-g-black-atx-mid-tower-case-fd-ca-focus-bk-w

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kpx2FT/nzxt-h510-elite-atx-mid-tower-case-ca-h510e-w1

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Qd...0a-digital-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-ec400atg_dbk

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6q...x-mb500-atx-mid-tower-case-mcb-b500d-kgnn-s00
 

Cryptixg

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100R supports upto 150mm coolers. The best coolers are bit over 160mm. Bit of a dilemma here. The best you can get for that case is the Cryorig H7 145mm but is only rated at 140w, It isn't ideal unless you power limit the cpu which you obviously wouldn't want to be doing that.

If still want to pursue air, Dark Rock or Noctua D15 being 250w is what you need. An idea might be to leave the case cover off whilst looking for a new case.

You're better off getting a better case with 2 or more unrestricted intake fans (no front panel), and rear / top exhaust. Your i9 will thank you for it.

Some suggestions

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ZH...s-g-black-atx-mid-tower-case-fd-ca-focus-bk-w

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kpx2FT/nzxt-h510-elite-atx-mid-tower-case-ca-h510e-w1

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Qd...0a-digital-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-ec400atg_dbk

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6q...x-mb500-atx-mid-tower-case-mcb-b500d-kgnn-s00
i love figuring out what i can do to make my computer better! yes those suggestions are super nice the nzxt looks nice but now im for sure thinking my power supply needs an upgrade aswell dont laugh but i only have a 500W psu any suggestions for that aswell?
 

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In full swing, 250w for the cpu + gpu probably around 200w? (Check reviews for your gpu's power consumption at full load and add that) + say 20w for drives etc, could very well come close to maxing out 500w. Id feel more safer with 650w. If price between 650w and 750w isn't all that different, get 750w.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yc...fied-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ssr-650px

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dC...fied-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ssr-750px

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Lk...-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020137-na

Just some picks of many that i know of, there are many lol. List here; https://pcpartpicker.com/products/power-supply/#m=11,71&e=6,5,4&A=650000000000,750000000000

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Titanium's are the best but much more expensive. Next best is Platinum then Gold.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/what-80-plus-levels-mean,36721.html
 

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In full swing, 250w for the cpu + gpu probably around 200w? (Check reviews for your gpu's power consumption at full load and add that) + say 20w for drives etc, could very well come close to maxing out 500w. Id feel more safer with 650w. If price between 650w and 750w isn't all that different, get 750w.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yc...fied-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ssr-650px

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dC...fied-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ssr-750px

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Lk...-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020137-na

Just some picks of many that i know of, there are many lol. List here; https://pcpartpicker.com/products/power-supply/#m=11,71&e=6,5,4&A=650000000000,750000000000

----

Titanium's are the best but much more expensive. Next best is Platinum then Gold.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/what-80-plus-levels-mean,36721.html

In full swing, 250w for the cpu + gpu probably around 200w? (Check reviews for your gpu's power consumption at full load and add that) + say 20w for drives etc, could very well come close to maxing out 500w. Id feel more safer with 650w. If price between 650w and 750w isn't all that different, get 750w.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yc...fied-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ssr-650px

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dC...fied-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ssr-750px

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Lk...-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020137-na

Just some picks of many that i know of, there are many lol. List here; https://pcpartpicker.com/products/power-supply/#m=11,71&e=6,5,4&A=650000000000,750000000000

----

Titanium's are the best but much more expensive. Next best is Platinum then Gold.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/what-80-plus-levels-mean,36721.html
Would it be dumb to go above 750? what about like an 850w psu? is it not like the more the merrier and like wouldnt require a lot of upgrading in the future?
 

Cryptixg

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750w is enough for Sli, 850w is over doing it.
alright i think that answers more than all of my questions thank you boju and everyone else looks like im upgrading my 2400mhz ram my 500w psu my stock cooler and my corsair 100r case it really just looks like i focused too much on the gpu and processor :p
 

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Also regarding ram, research into ram clearance concerning the heatsink you get. Ram will have dimensions written as well in the specs.

If was the D15: https://noctua.at/en/how-big-is-the...e-does-it-provide-for-ram-and-chipset-coolers

Can raise the front fan covering some of the ram slots to allow for taller ram modules.

Also too, check the cooler's installation instructions because you'll be installing the cooler's back plate under the board to support the weight. Before installing motherboard into the case, check if you need to put the back plate on first.
 
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Cryptixg

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Also regarding ram, research into ram clearance concerning the heatsink you get. Ram will have dimensions written as well in the specs.

If was the D15: https://noctua.at/en/how-big-is-the...e-does-it-provide-for-ram-and-chipset-coolers

Can raise the front fan covering some of the ram slots to allow for taller ram modules.

Also too, check the cooler's installation instructions because you'll be installing the cooler's back plate under the board to support the weight. Before installing motherboard into the case, check if you need to put the back plate on first.
would the kraken x62 280mm cover the ram slots for the asus rog strix z390-h?
 

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Water block sitting on the cpu won't intrude but even though d15 is huge, the 2nd and 4th slot from cpu should be fine.

I haven't installed water coolers so wouldn't really be of much help. There are many others here who do though.