CPU Temperatures normal for i5 4670k??

[masmotors]

since i see this tread i will add my 2 cents i ran sisoft sandra and i am overclocked to 4.2 ram overclcoked also and on hw monitor i noticed it maxed out for 75c on the core lows of 29c at idle im low but as soon as im stressing it skyrockets fast i may go back stock i have a 620 h20 with ic diamond tim

 

[towhog66]

That wasn't really my question, and actually as far as stress testing goes, the 4670k runs about 3 degrees cooler than the 3570k, not to mention its a faster processor than ivy bridge. So Haswell is the better CPU, no question about it. Regardless of your apparent "issues" with the haswell processors, My question was are those normal temperatures at idle and under load?

Your temps are not good at all. With even the stock cooler you shouldn't be hitting anything over 75. The fact that you're using an EVO and you're still getting over 60 is worrisome. Using the pea method is, I feel, a terrible way to put down TIM.

I would suggest first to clean it all off completely with quetips and alcohol. Then use the "Lap Method". It ensures a much better seat and better conductivity of heat.

Use a plastic bag on your finger and stretch the bag over your finger tip. Make sure you have a flat even spread over the entire processor. Now, before someone argues that the actual processor doesn't cover the entire processor plate, yeah I know. I have delidded before using the vice & wood block method. That's not the point. Spread it around the entire top and get a close to perfect spread. Thin is win. Don't over do the TIM.

After that is finished make sure you seat the EVO directly down on the processor. Make sure it is a tight fit with the screws so it is well snug against the processor.

Thermal spread can make the difference between 70c and 50c. Give it a shot and let us know how it ends up.

Good luck!!

thats how i do it, works every time

 

[diegoocampo]

Hi!, I am a little confused with all I've read in this post.. I also own a i5-4670K and i thought everything under 90 ºC was fine.

First of all i must say I am not overclocking expert and i won't have my PC running games or apps that hit the 100% CPU usage all the time. I just wanted to overclock a little my CPU and enjoy a little better speeds in general and when I game from time to time.

Before my desktop PC i owned 3 different laptops, I used them around 3 or 4 years each until i decided to upgrade to a better one. All of them Intel. The last one a hp with Core i7-720QM. In all these laptops, like many laptops, even in idle cpu temps are about 70 ºC, when i used them to play games they use to go to more than 80-88 ºC and if i played emulators like dolphin for the Wii or PCSX2 for PS2 then they usually went up to 90 - 95 ºC. Then with heatsink cleanning and a cooler the thing improved a little bit. Anyway, what i am trying to say is that this high temps seems almost unavoidable for laptops, and at least my three laptops didn't die yet in 4 years and who wants a CPU for more than 4 years??.

So, are desktop CPU less durable, more weak? or is the overclocking community exagerating a little??.. maybe over 75 ºC is dangerous only if you are planning to be gaming 12 hours per day?.
I am not saying I don't believe what you guys say, just trying to understand.. i am a little dissapointed cause I thought i might do at least a little overclocking with my PC but even at 4.0 Ghz is reaching easily the 85 ºC with prime95 small fft... the thing is that when i play some emu games or whatever is not going so high at all, maybe 60 - 70ºC... Another thing i notice is that always core 1 run way hotter than the others under prime95 and core 4 colder. For example, in stock, without any OC and prime95 small FFT: core1: 76, core2: 70, core3:69, core4:67, almost 10 ºC of difference!

So what should I do??

By the way my specs are:

Tower ----- Zalman Z11 Plus
Power ----- Tacens Radix VI 750W
MoBo ------ Asrock Z87 Extreme4
CPU -------- Intel Core i5-4670K
Cooler ----- Noctua NH-D14
RAM ------- G. Skill Ripjaws X DDR3 2133 PC3-17000 2x4GB CL11
Graphics - Radeon HD 5750 1GB DDR5

I used a predefined profile from the MoBo UEFI to OC it from 3.4 to 4.0 Ghz. Probably this is not the best way.. but i don't know much about OC and i didn't want to spend hours researching as i am a quite busy these days 🙁. Also I read some people were fine with this profiles, even the 4.4 GHz profile.

I know its not a big PC config for overclocking but i bought noctua NH-D14 and the Z87 Extreme 4 thinking in at least a little of OC.

Thanks in advance, and sorry if I made mistakes as i am not english speaker...

 

[blaze2210]

Wow, that was a whole bunch of drama....I have a 4670k on an MSI Z87-GD65 board and its being cooled by a Hyper 212 Evo, your temps are fine....You might want to think about moving your tower into a more ventilated area, but other than that, you're fine....

 

[headhuntersix]

That is a lot of drama. Sounds like my temps are fine, too, then. I have the same chip on a UD5H inside an ATSC840 (why buy a new case every time you build a new computer?), OCed to 4.0. I'm using the 212 evo, too.

I ran OCCP for 20 minutes, and one core maxed at 85...but another one maxed at 77 (both in the first minute of the test). I think the average temp across all the cores was right around 80. I guess I'll go ahead and set it back on 3.4 and run it again for comparison. I am a little peeved that my idle temps are as high as they are...I'd take cooler off and redo my TIM, but I'm not sure how much difference it'd make. 35-36C is only 3-4 degrees higher than the case temp, and this case moves some air! It's 25 in the room, but the computer is in a corner with a desk (solid side) on one side, so airflow outside the case is almost certainly an issue. That'll change when I move in 3 months.

 

[blaze2210]

That is a lot of drama. Sounds like my temps are fine, too, then. I have the same chip on a UD5H inside an ATSC840 (why buy a new case every time you build a new computer?), OCed to 4.0. I'm using the 212 evo, too.

I ran OCCP for 20 minutes, and one core maxed at 85...but another one maxed at 77 (both in the first minute of the test). I think the average temp across all the cores was right around 80. I guess I'll go ahead and set it back on 3.4 and run it again for comparison. I am a little peeved that my idle temps are as high as they are...I'd take cooler off and redo my TIM, but I'm not sure how much difference it'd make. 35-36C is only 3-4 degrees higher than the case temp, and this case moves some air! It's 25 in the room, but the computer is in a corner with a desk (solid side) on one side, so airflow outside the case is almost certainly an issue. That'll change when I move in 3 months.

What type of TIM are you using? From my personal experiences, I recommend Shin-Etsu or Antec Formula 7.

 

[headhuntersix]

Tuniq TX4

 

[blaze2210]

If you feel like your temps are getting too high, you can always try lowering your voltages and see what the lowest stable setting is. Also, whenever running stress-testing software, make sure that your voltage is not set to "adaptive", as the CPU will be getting too much power and will heat up as a result.

 

[headhuntersix]

If you feel like your temps are getting too high, you can always try lowering your voltages and see what the lowest stable setting is. Also, whenever running stress-testing software, make sure that your voltage is not set to "adaptive", as the CPU will be getting too much power and will heat up as a result.

That's not a terrible thought. Whenever I start playing a game that pushes my chip, I'll try undervolting (plenty of room to do that at 4Ghz!). Right now, I'm only playing one game, and it doesn't push my core temps above 60, even though it pushes my GPU temps to 67 (also not terrible).

 

[blaze2210]

As far as your GPU is concerned, you can get MSI Afterburner and set a custom fan curve. That way, you control when the fans ramp up.

 

[comatone1982]

My rig....

4670k
Asus Z87 K
Corsair TX750W
XSPC custom loop
GTX 760 oc'd to +90/+350mhz @ 106% power

Im running 4.55Ghz on my cpu at 85 degrees under testing loads. Voltage set at 1.375. Stable, no problems. I dont think your temps are a problem at all. And i dont plan on keeping this CPU past 1 to 2 years either.

 

[Layarion]

OK, but the discription said it supports CPU´s of 140 W, but i got my money back and getting another one.
do you know if the ASUS B85M-G works well with a i5 4670k and a HD 7870 XT?

Sure, if you don't overclock it will support them, also, the VRMs on that board are not stout enough for something like the 8350.

The B series motherboards don't support overclocking...if you intend to overclock you need a Z77 and 3570k. The only reason to go to 4670k is if you will never overclock.

Also, I don't see a reason to swap out your 8350. If you got a decent motherboard it would be fine. The Intel boards you'll need are much more expensive than the ones that work for that 8350 anyway.

EDIT: You realize the 4670k is $70 more expensive by itself right? Before you buy the more expensive motherboard you need to pair with it. If you're on a budget, it's much wiser to go AMD.

Intel cpu's are 50% faster with single threads...so i would go with Intel because even though it's 2014 Most games even AAA ones are still single threaded.

 

[8350rocks]

OK, but the discription said it supports CPU´s of 140 W, but i got my money back and getting another one.
do you know if the ASUS B85M-G works well with a i5 4670k and a HD 7870 XT?

Sure, if you don't overclock it will support them, also, the VRMs on that board are not stout enough for something like the 8350.

The B series motherboards don't support overclocking...if you intend to overclock you need a Z77 and 3570k. The only reason to go to 4670k is if you will never overclock.

Also, I don't see a reason to swap out your 8350. If you got a decent motherboard it would be fine. The Intel boards you'll need are much more expensive than the ones that work for that 8350 anyway.

EDIT: You realize the 4670k is $70 more expensive by itself right? Before you buy the more expensive motherboard you need to pair with it. If you're on a budget, it's much wiser to go AMD.

Intel cpu's are 50% faster with single threads...so i would go with Intel because even though it's 2014 Most games even AAA ones are still single threaded.

As a game developer...I can personally tell you that you are wrong.

 

[boogzLA]

Im using that processor in a Z97 board and getting those idles with a stock cpu fan...

ps. overclocked to 4.3

 

[andyouf]

Hey I see no specifics on why 8350 thinks IB is better at all, so probably just opinion or that is what he has. I don't have exact answer to your question as I was looking up same thing for my 4700mq, but I do know that Haswell is known to operate at higher temperatures. I'm sure the engineers at Intel have their reason. Awesome processor, btw.

 

[andyouf]

The newer processors are designed to operate hotter. Completely safe, maybe not 10 years ago not now fine. Might need to update your personal temp ranges.

 

[ESA1178]

I only just found this post...
I don't understand why your temps are so high under load.
I just replaced my GPU with a Titan 6GB, along with the same CPU and fan as you.
When I am playing FSX, with graphics set at maximum with addon scenery and aircraft, my average temp
is 44C.

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