[SOLVED] CPU upgrade to compliment RTX 3080

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Currently running an i7 7700k and looking at upgrading to pair with the 3080 when its released. 6 or 8 cores? Some good bang for buck but also something that will last a good few years. Open to both intel and AMD.

I mostly just game and will be looking at playing all games at 1440p @ 144hz

Thanks in advance
 
Solution
Games are limited by cpu or gpu.
You should find out which for the games you play.

Do you already have a monitor capable of 1440p @ 144hz ?

If not, I suggest you buy the monitor first and see how you do with your current cpu.
What is your current graphics card?
It is likely that your graphics card will be your limiter to fast action gaming at 1440P.
A 3080 is likely to be a good upgrade for you.

Here is a simple test which may be applicable to you:
Run YOUR games, but lower your resolution and eye candy.
This makes the graphics card loaf a bit.
If your FPS increases, it indicates that your cpu is strong enough to drive a better graphics configuration.
If your FPS stays the same, you are likely more cpu limited.

Have you...
First of all I agree with dimtodim that your CPU is still fine for the games we have today.

And I would really hold the upgrade for two reasons, 1° we have no independent review of those GPUs yet, 2° we have no idea if PCIe v4 is really worht/need it or not, and 3° cause AMD and Intel should be launching thier new desktop CPUs not soo far away in time, the Ryzen 4xxx and Intel 11xxx series.

Now, If you want to go for Intel or AMD you will need a new motherboard no matter what you choose.

Im sorry but I don't agree with dimtodim on the CPU front, if you wana go with AMD, coming from the awesome Core i7 7700K, I would really go with at least the R5 3600/X (pick the X one if price its not that much higher than the non-X) as a minimum. But I would really try to aim to the Ryzen 7 3700X since for me is a really nice solution in performance/future wise. I do agree that you should aim for B550 or X570 mobos, and also add at least 2x8Gb DDR4 3200/3600 - CL14/CL16 (whichever you can pick at a good price).

As for intel I would pick the Core i5 10600K + Z490 (to be able to use high speed memory). For memory, similar to AMD, atleast 2x8GB DDR4 3200MHz CL14/16.

Remember when picking memory check the mobo QVL on the website to find out if the RAM kit you choosed was tested OK.

Oh I almost forgot, you should really check that your PSU is from a good brand, a decent model, strong enough for the new build.

Cheers
 
Games are limited by cpu or gpu.
You should find out which for the games you play.

Do you already have a monitor capable of 1440p @ 144hz ?

If not, I suggest you buy the monitor first and see how you do with your current cpu.
What is your current graphics card?
It is likely that your graphics card will be your limiter to fast action gaming at 1440P.
A 3080 is likely to be a good upgrade for you.

Here is a simple test which may be applicable to you:
Run YOUR games, but lower your resolution and eye candy.
This makes the graphics card loaf a bit.
If your FPS increases, it indicates that your cpu is strong enough to drive a better graphics configuration.
If your FPS stays the same, you are likely more cpu limited.

Have you overclocked your 7700K?
If not, you are leaving some 25% performance on the table.
As of 6/9/17
What percent can get an overclock at a somewhat sane 1.4v Vcore.

I7-7700K
4.9 83%
5.0 62%
5.1 29%
5.2 6%

If you are inclined to upgrade your cpu, I suggest a i5-10600K.
It has 12 threads which is likely more than you can use for gaming.
Most games can not effectively use more than 4-6 threads. Multiplayer is an exception.
To test this assertion for your games,
experiment with removing one or more cores/threads. You can do this in the windows msconfig boot advanced options option.
You will need to reboot for the change to take effect. Set the number of threads to less than you have.
This will tell you how sensitive your games are to the benefits of many threads.
If you see little difference, your game does not need all the threads you have.

Here is a review of the i5-10600K:
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i5-10600k-cpu-review
The main difference with the i7-10700K and i9-10900K is how many threads they have.
16 and 20 respectively.
All of the new K suffix processors, will have turbo and oc capabilities in the 5.0 range.
Ryzen is topping our more like 4.5.
 
Solution
Games are limited by cpu or gpu.
You should find out which for the games you play.

Do you already have a monitor capable of 1440p @ 144hz ?

If not, I suggest you buy the monitor first and see how you do with your current cpu.
What is your current graphics card?
It is likely that your graphics card will be your limiter to fast action gaming at 1440P.
A 3080 is likely to be a good upgrade for you.

Here is a simple test which may be applicable to you:
Run YOUR games, but lower your resolution and eye candy.
This makes the graphics card loaf a bit.
If your FPS increases, it indicates that your cpu is strong enough to drive a better graphics configuration.
If your FPS stays the same, you are likely more cpu limited.

Have you overclocked your 7700K?
If not, you are leaving some 25% performance on the table.
As of 6/9/17
What percent can get an overclock at a somewhat sane 1.4v Vcore.

I7-7700K
4.9 83%
5.0 62%
5.1 29%
5.2 6%

If you are inclined to upgrade your cpu, I suggest a i5-10600K.
It has 12 threads which is likely more than you can use for gaming.
Most games can not effectively use more than 4-6 threads. Multiplayer is an exception.
To test this assertion for your games,
experiment with removing one or more cores/threads. You can do this in the windows msconfig boot advanced options option.
You will need to reboot for the change to take effect. Set the number of threads to less than you have.
This will tell you how sensitive your games are to the benefits of many threads.
If you see little difference, your game does not need all the threads you have.

Here is a review of the i5-10600K:
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i5-10600k-cpu-review
The main difference with the i7-10700K and i9-10900K is how many threads they have.
16 and 20 respectively.
All of the new K suffix processors, will have turbo and oc capabilities in the 5.0 range.
Ryzen is topping our more like 4.5.

Thanks for the very detailed reply. Very much appreciated.

My current setup is

CPU: 7700k @4.9gz (i could prob push it more, currently have noctua d15s)
Mobo: z270f
Ram: 16gb DDR4 3200
GPU: 1070 ti (Although currently already sold it)
Monitor is 1440p @144hz
PSU: Corsair RM650x

Main games that i play tend to be all cod releases (before upgrading monitor i could easily achieve 160-180fps but since upgrading to 1440p im running at around 70-80fps)
I play a lot of world of warcraft and plan on playing cyberpunk when it releases.