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If you're talking an $18 premium for 533MHz memory compared to 400MHz memory,
both 2x512MB, that is within reason... Ben Myers
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 12:10:55 -0400, "Paul Schilter"
<paulschilter@comcast,dot,net> wrote:
>Ben,
> Okay so if I've got this correct, a P4 3.0GHz w/ 800 FSB could utilize
>memory with a speed of up to 800 MHz. If I could put memory in it with 900
>MHz I'd just be wasting money on more expensive memory then what the
>processor can use. Since Dell only wants $18 for 1G (2x512M) for the 533 MHz
>over the 400 MHz that doesn't sound too bad.
>Paul
>
><ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
>news:41750228.2480164@news.charter.net...
>> Does the added price include a CPU operating with 533MHz FSB? If so and
>> the sum
>> of money is small, the answer is likely to be yes. But if the CPU is the
>> same,
>> FSB and all, whether 400 or 533 memory, you are not getting much of a
>> deal.
>> Still, for the long term when the prices of used P4 processors become like
>> dirt
>> and a CPU upgrade is very affordable for a small bump in performance, the
>> 533MHz
>> FSB memory makes a lot of sense... Ben Myers
>>
>> On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 06:36:34 -0400, "Paul Schilter"
>> <paulschilter@comcast,dot,net> wrote:
>>
>>>Ben,
>>> Okay, we're on the same page here. Now is the few bucks they want to
>>>upgrade to the 533 MHz memory worth it?
>>>Paul
>>>
>>><ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
>>>news:41747596.17666034@news.charter.net...
>>>> For the types of tasks you're talking about, I would save a bit of money
>>>> and buy
>>>> a system with less-than-the-fastest processor available. The savings in
>>>> the
>>>> price of the processor could go toward additional memory, probably not
>>>> from
>>>> Dell, but from Crucial or another well-regarded and less costly supplier
>>>> of
>>>> memory. Yeah, go for the 1GB of memory. Systems sure operate better
>>>> with
>>>> lots
>>>> of memory... Ben Myers
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 19:26:28 -0400, "Paul Schilter"
>>>> <paulschilter@comcast,dot,net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Ben,
>>>>> In your opinion is the Dell upgrade from 400 MHz to 533 MHz. ram
>>>>> worth
>>>>>it? If one is not a game player, probably the most cpu intensive task I
>>>>>do
>>>>>is ripping CD's to MP3's, What speed processor and ram amount / speed
>>>>>would
>>>>>you recommend, (here I favor a minimum of 1 gig)? For example I favor
>>>>>the
>>>>>8400 series for its PCI Express buss and its larger case for future
>>>>>expandability but I'm not so sure that the fastest cpu would be worth
>>>>>the
>>>>>extra money for my application. Yours or others thoughts?
>>>>>Paul
>>>>>
>>>>><ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
>>>>>news:41743548.1202110@news.charter.net...
>>>>>> My old friend, Dave Methvin, who wrote many years for Ziff-Davis
>>>>>> magazines, used
>>>>>> the same double-the-speed rule of thumb. Double the speed or darn
>>>>>> close
>>>>>> to it.
>>>>>> With Intel's current and recent past technology, doubling the speed is
>>>>>> damned
>>>>>> difficult. PowerLeap's adapters are fairly impressive, because they
>>>>>> do
>>>>>> offer
>>>>>> the prospect of doubling CPU speed, albeit at a very high price. But
>>>>>> today,
>>>>>> there is no 5.06GHz Pentium 4 available. Not even close. The CPUs
>>>>>> which
>>>>>> operate with a 533MHz bus top out at around 3GHz (if I recall
>>>>>> correctly),
>>>>>> only a
>>>>>> 20% improvement... Ben Myers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:23:18 GMT, Sparky <nemo@moon.sun.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mike wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> O.K. I talked myself out of upgrading from 512 Megs to 1024 Megs of
>>>>>>>> RDRAM after some input from folks in this newsgroup. I came to this
>>>>>>>> conclusion because I did not think I would see much of a
>>>>>>>> performance
>>>>>>>> increase in my game playing and or rendering times. Someone had
>>>>>>>> mentioned a CPU upgrade. After some searching I've learned that the
>>>>>>>> highest speed CPU my system will allow is a 3.06 GHz (533 MHz)
>>>>>>>> processor. At the moment I have a 2.53 GHz processor (850E
>>>>>>>> chipset).
>>>>>>>> Not having ever used a computer faster than my current configuration
>>>>>>>> would I note much of an increase in loading times for my games or
>>>>>>>> shortened rendering times in my 3D applications with this upgrade ?
>>>>>>>> Thanks for the input!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Not worth it - the only improvement would be seen by benchmarking
>>>>>>>software and that would be small. I doubt that you'd notice any
>>>>>>>difference at all. IIRC the ROT for CPU upgrades is that you have to
>>>>>>>double the CPU speed to make a noticeable improvement.
>>>>>>
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