Creating a Woodcrest Workstation, advice needed

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following that line of reasoning, if i were to upgrade in 6 months or a year (which i wouldn't be able to get the money to do), WHY would i get a woodcrest then??? Why wouldn't i get a Clovertown, which is a quad core woodcrest, since they'll be out by then? It would make no sense for me to get a woodcrest when clovertown would be available.
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Two reasons:
It’s very likely that quad core on 65nm will be expensive; 45nm quads should be another story. Also, even Intel’s new architecture doesn’t scale very well due to FSB limitations. AMD’s 65nm quad core socket F should be another story due to their better architecture.
 
Two reasons:
It’s very likely that quad core on 65nm will be expensive; 45nm quads should be another story. Also, even Intel’s new architecture doesn’t scale very well due to FSB limitations. AMD’s 65nm quad core socket F should be another story due to their better architecture.
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Ok, but u don't seem to get my point, if colvertown is available, i'm going to get clovertown, not woodcrest, it wouldn't make sense for me to get obsolete technology if better is available. So as you said, it would be more expensive to get clovertown then, than woodcrest now. And i've already said i don't do AMD. So again, it makes no sense for me to wait 6 months or a year and THEN get woodcrest, as woodcrest would be old and obsolete by then.
 
Ok, but u don't seem to get my point, if colvertown is available, i'm going to get clovertown, not woodcrest, it wouldn't make sense for me to get obsolete technology if better is available. So as you said, it would be more expensive to get clovertown then, than woodcrest now. And i've already said i don't do AMD. So again, it makes no sense for me to wait 6 months or a year and THEN get woodcrest, as woodcrest would be old and obsolete by then.
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My point is this: you can’t afford Clovertown and it’s probably not worth buying anyway, so just buy Woodcrest now or next year and move on.
You think Woodcrest will be old and obsolete in 6 months! You sir, are out of your tiny f***ing mind.
 
No i'm not but you probably cant read,,,

"Enermax Noistaker 500W PSU"

is what s posted.
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Obviously it's you that can't read. go to page two, the list of components..

"PSU Thermaltake ToughPower ATX/EPS 12V 650W $141.23"

the enermax is in MY FORUM SIGNATURE, as it is my CURRENT PSU...
 
My point is this: you can’t afford Clovertown and it’s probably not worth buying anyway, so just buy Woodcrest now or next year and move on.
You think Woodcrest will be old and obsolete in 6 months! You sir, are out of your tiny f***ing mind.
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AS SOON AS clovertown comes out woodcrest is obsolete. Just as when the Pentium 4 600 series came out, the 500 series was obsolete, or when the pentium D came out the pentium 4 was obsolete, and as when Core 2 comes out, the pentium D is obsolete. Clovertown is a newer version of woodcrest with more cores, that kinda implies obseletion of the latter. And if you want to get technical, woodcrest was obsolete before it was even released, as it is with any chip, as the next generations are already developed.
 
Yeh right so whats on page 1 in the first post pray tell?
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Read the post on page 2 and find out!

I made the following Spec sheet last nite of what i was thinking of, it's changed a bit since the first post. Items without a price are parts of my current system i intend to re-use. Again, please offer any advice or help (ANYONE):
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AS SOON AS clovertown comes out woodcrest is obsolete. Just as when the Pentium 4 600 series came out, the 500 series was obsolete, or when the pentium D came out the pentium 4 was obsolete, and as when Core 2 comes out, the pentium D is obsolete. Clovertown is a newer version of woodcrest with more cores, that kinda implies obseletion of the latter. And if you want to get technical, woodcrest was obsolete before it was even released, as it is with any chip, as the next generations are already developed.
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It’s not as straight forward as that at all.
I agree that Core 2 Duo makes Pentium D redundant, but Clovertown is extending the Woodcrest family, not replacing it. Clovertown is two Woodcrest CPU’s put together on a single package. It will extend the Bensley platform giving higher performance at the top end with higher pricing also. If Ford adds a super-charged V8 to their range, does it make the V8 redundant? Of course not, they are just extending their range.
You’ve made it clear that you have a limited budget, so why kid yourself that you will be able to afford one of these if you don’t move to the Bensley platform until next year. For me, Clovertown is yet another reason to postpone buying Woodcrest. When Clovertown is released it will very likely have the effect of stimulating price cuts on Woodcrest.

You come across as someone that has to have the latest thing regardless of whether it’s any good or you actually need it. Intel has released some very poor 1st generation new architecture chips over the years which were a waste of time. The Pentium 60/66 and Pentium 4 S423 really were redundant when they were released. Clovertown looks like being a dud also due to its hastily hacked together nature and the fact that Intel’s platform doesn’t scale very well due to bandwidth issues. BTW, I’m not suggesting that Woodcrest is a dud. In the seemingly unlikely chance that Clovertown turns out to be a good chip and is affordable to you, all the more reason for you to buy Conroe now and upgrade to the Bensley platform next year.

It’s a shame that you aren’t open to AMD server chips, as they may well have the best quad cores on the market next year. What’s your issue with AMD? For godsakes, even Dell are starting to use them now, although I see that you could use that as another reason not to buy them :)
 
Did not action man tell you how damned lazy I was?
Find something else to do.
Ok you are RIGTHT,,,, happy now?
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lol don't worry about it :). So back to the topic, IS 650W enough? Or should i spend umpteen million dollars on a kilowatt PSU?
 
650 Watt will just about do it with very little reserve imo.
I have a dual raid 0 rig with 7 HDs 1 FD & 1 DVD,,, 9 drives total & my 650 Watts has failed twice in 12 months wondering if I should repair it again ot just get a larger one.
If he does enough research & choose his components maybe he can come out good with the 650 Watts. there is a PSU calculator floating around on the net, had a link to it once but no more :

http://journeysystems.com/power_supply_calculator.phpPower_Supply_Calculator.php?cmd=AMD.

Maybe it still exists in a different form have not tried it in a while.
 
no 5140's tho, out of stock. 🙁
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NewEgg have Woodcrests, not the 5140 though. Worth keeping an eye on!

Have you decided which motherboard to use yet? Take a look at the forums at 2cpu.com for info on dual systems if you're still undecided.
 
no 5140's tho, out of stock. 🙁
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NewEgg have Woodcrests, not the 5140 though. Worth keeping an eye on!

Have you decided which motherboard to use yet? Take a look at the forums at 2cpu.com for info on dual systems if you're still undecided.

they must have JUST got those in, they weren't there when i checked yesterday!.. still waiting on the 5140 tho.

Which forum on 2cpu.com in particular? could u send me a link or tell me where to look?
 
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