Custom watter cooling vs water cooling vs air cooling in my situation

[icegod]

Hello guys, im currently working on something of my own, and ill build a small case that will only leave at maximum 9CM of height for a cpu cooler, and i do want to overclock it, so i need people opinions

1. Would it be better to buy a cpu air cooler (name one small as i said before)
2. Should i buy a normal watter cooling setup (when i say normal i am saying something like corsair H100i, and again, suggest me one)
3. Should i go for a custom loop?

 

[rubix_1011]

You shouldn't need a 'backup' in the first place. If you are not 100% certain or completely comfortable with water cooling, you should probably do some more research or maybe avoid it altogether. In all the years I have water cooled, I have had 1 leak - and it was my own fault, and not due to failed pumps or hardware. It was a fitting on a GPU block that I didn't secure well enough and caused a leak to drip on my 2nd SLI card. I RMA'd it to EVGA and they sent me a new card - one reason I almost always buy EVGA GPUs...they will RMA a card for just about any reason.

Point of the story - most leaks (probably 95%+) from watercooling come from operator / installer error, not components leaking. This is why we make it a big focus to learn and take your time.

Closed loop coolers have been known to leak in the past, and even this wasn't commonplace, but most don't have these issues nowadays. In the early models, such as the Corsair H50, they did have some issues, but several re-designs have corrected many flaws.

I guess what I am trying to say is that watercooling and leaks are often the over-hyped fear that the uninitiated have before they understand what they are doing. It's also the #1 item that people who don't understand the cooling solution will try and use as a fear tactic to someone else.

 

[icegod]

You shouldn't need a 'backup' in the first place. If you are not 100% certain or completely comfortable with water cooling, you should probably do some more research or maybe avoid it altogether. In all the years I have water cooled, I have had 1 leak - and it was my own fault, and not due to failed pumps or hardware. It was a fitting on a GPU block that I didn't secure well enough and caused a leak to drip on my 2nd SLI card. I RMA'd it to EVGA and they sent me a new card - one reason I almost always buy EVGA GPUs...they will RMA a card for just about any reason.

Point of the story - most leaks (probably 95%+) from watercooling come from operator / installer error, not components leaking. This is why we make it a big focus to learn and take your time.

Closed loop coolers have been known to leak in the past, and even this wasn't commonplace, but most don't have these issues nowadays. In the early models, such as the Corsair H50, they did have some issues, but several re-designs have corrected many flaws.

I guess what I am trying to say is that watercooling and leaks are often the over-hyped fear that the uninitiated have before they understand what they are doing. It's also the #1 item that people who don't understand the cooling solution will try and use as a fear tactic to someone else.

First, i see alot of people saying that the pump died after a while, so im afraid of that ofc

 

[rubix_1011]

Can you link some examples? I'd like to read 4-5 of them, because pump failure isn't as common as everyone seems to think without some sort of user error, like running the pump without water.

 

[toolmaker_03]

well I use D5 pumps, I always have used D5 pumps, for the 20 years that I have been water cooling my systems, and they last for 5+ years consistently, and that is running 24/7, I do not shut down my system(except for cleaning ect..) and for a $100 I think it lasts long enough, but that is only my opinion.

 

[icegod]

Can you link some examples? I'd like to read 4-5 of them, because pump failure isn't as common as everyone seems to think without some sort of user error, like running the pump without water.

Not really want to do some research again, but i saw like 3/4 guys complaining

 

[icegod]

well I use D5 pumps, I always have used D5 pumps, for the 20 years that I have been water cooling my systems, and they last for 5+ years consistently, and that is running 24/7, I do not shut down my system(except for cleaning ect..) and for a $100 I think it lasts long enough, but that is only my opinion.

Thanks for saying that, it relieves me hearing it

 

[rubix_1011]

Can you link some examples? I'd like to read 4-5 of them, because pump failure isn't as common as everyone seems to think without some sort of user error, like running the pump without water.

Not really want to do some research again, but i saw like 3/4 guys complaining

As in 3 or 4 or 3/4 (75%)? And I'd be very curious to where you were seeing this? Tom's Hardware is one of the forums on the web with the fewest watercooling folks and I rarely see much on here about this kind of displeasure.

 

[icegod]

Can you link some examples? I'd like to read 4-5 of them, because pump failure isn't as common as everyone seems to think without some sort of user error, like running the pump without water.

Not really want to do some research again, but i saw like 3/4 guys complaining

As in 3 or 4 or 3/4 (75%)? And I'd be very curious to where you were seeing this? Tom's Hardware is one of the forums on the web with the fewest watercooling folks and I rarely see much on here about this kind of displeasure.

3 or 4*
I didnt saw many guys complaining, and i dont know if you can post links of other forums here, but if you search "h220-x pump died" on google you see some people trashtalking about that watercooling kit and etc

 

[toolmaker_03]

icegod, the reviews about faulty pumps come from first release units, that had a smaller pump, than the standard MPC30, that comes with them today.
swiftech is pretty good about replacing pumps that do not last, I have had them replace a pump that only worked for 6 months, I sent them the old pump that died, and they sent me a new one, free of charge, or as in this case, swiftech gave new pumps to all the people that bought fist release units.

 

[icegod]

icegod, the reviews about faulty pumps come from first release units, that had a smaller pump, than the standard MPC30, that comes with them today.
swiftech is pretty good about replacing pumps that do not last, I have had them replace a pump that only worked for 6 months, I sent them the old pump that died, and they sent me a new one, free of charge, or as in this case, swiftech gave new pumps to all the people that bought fist release units.

Thanks for the info!