D-Link admits DI-624 will not renew client IP address from..

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Only for an hour during that quick test I did using the 1 hour lease. In
normal use, the router works quite well other than won't renew the lease
from my ISP (Comcast). That is a 4 day lease, still tolerable. Yes,
current firmware v2.42. Thanks.


"Kevin" <kebuchan@c_eh_n_eh_d_eh.com> wrote in message
news😀_jyc.8806$_V4.1767@read1.cgocable.net...
> Steve,
>
> So basically you boot up and are connected for an hour then youre internet
> connection is useless (freezes up).
>
> Interesting. I wonder if it's just your router. DI-624 is listed as the
> most popular router out there in its class.
>
> Did you apply all the patches? I'm assuming you did as one of them is a
> DHCP patch.
>
> Kevin
>
> "Stevef" <news@stevefarthing.junk> wrote in message
> news😱6-dnaIEQ4BHkFTdRVn-jw@comcast.com...
> >
> > <dold@D-LinkXadm.usenet.us.com> wrote in message
> > news:caapbu$m2s$1@blue.rahul.net...
> > > Stevef <news@stevefarthing.junk> wrote:
> > > > Today I tried connecting the router's WAN port to LAN port 1 and
> setting
> > a 1
> > > > hour lease time as a quick test and the router leased itself an IP
> > address
> > > > but never renewed it.
> > >
> > > That's downright cute. I might try that with a router I have sitting
> > here.
> > > How are you deciding that the address is not getting renewed?
> >
> > No renewal entries in the log file and the IP address stops working -
> can't
> > be pinged. If you manually renew or reboot the router, it logs messages
> > when it requests and receives an IP address. Upon expiration, there were
> no
> > renewal messages in the log.
> >
> > >
> > > The question I usually ask myself when shooting what seems to be a
> > > fundamental flaw:
> > > And how is it that everyone with a DI-624 isn't having trouble?
> > > 1- most are PPPoE
> >
> > Must be a factor.
> >
> > > 2- some have static addresses
> >
> > Probably.
> >
> > > 3- ?
> >
> > Maybe more people are having trouble but haven't figured it out. ( Look
at
> > how long it took doctors to figure out just to wash their hands before
> > surgery. And they resisted the evidence.) The evidence here is that
> mine
> > won't renew and D-Link agrees it does not have the capability. It is
> > curious how many think it does. So maybe there is still some
unidentified
> > setup option that makes the difference. Or D-Link slipstreams their
> > firmware versions so the same version number could have different
versions
> > that have been released. Who knows. I am still curious to find out for
> > sure. Although, with a four day lease from Comcast, I don't clicking on
> the
> > renew button every once in awhile. But it still seems like it should be
> > automatic for the router.
> >
> >
>
>

 

[Guest]

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You should also see the lease expiration date-time on the WAN status page of
your router.

Ron Bandes, CCNP, CTT+, etc.

"Stevef" <news@stevefarthing.junk> wrote in message
news😱6-dnaIEQ4BHkFTdRVn-jw@comcast.com...
>
> <dold@D-LinkXadm.usenet.us.com> wrote in message
> news:caapbu$m2s$1@blue.rahul.net...
> > Stevef <news@stevefarthing.junk> wrote:
> > > Today I tried connecting the router's WAN port to LAN port 1 and
setting
> a 1
> > > hour lease time as a quick test and the router leased itself an IP
> address
> > > but never renewed it.
> >
> > That's downright cute. I might try that with a router I have sitting
> here.
> > How are you deciding that the address is not getting renewed?
>
> No renewal entries in the log file and the IP address stops working -
can't
> be pinged. If you manually renew or reboot the router, it logs messages
> when it requests and receives an IP address. Upon expiration, there were
no
> renewal messages in the log.
>
> >
> > The question I usually ask myself when shooting what seems to be a
> > fundamental flaw:
> > And how is it that everyone with a DI-624 isn't having trouble?
> > 1- most are PPPoE
>
> Must be a factor.
>
> > 2- some have static addresses
>
> Probably.
>
> > 3- ?
>
> Maybe more people are having trouble but haven't figured it out. ( Look at
> how long it took doctors to figure out just to wash their hands before
> surgery. And they resisted the evidence.) The evidence here is that
mine
> won't renew and D-Link agrees it does not have the capability. It is
> curious how many think it does. So maybe there is still some unidentified
> setup option that makes the difference. Or D-Link slipstreams their
> firmware versions so the same version number could have different versions
> that have been released. Who knows. I am still curious to find out for
> sure. Although, with a four day lease from Comcast, I don't clicking on
the
> renew button every once in awhile. But it still seems like it should be
> automatic for the router.
>
>

 

[Guest]

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Nothing on the status page. D-Link doesn't show that. Maybe because they
don't renew it? But the DHCP page would show it if I had looked during my 1
hour 'loopback DHCP' test. Maybe I will try it again. Thanks.

"Ron Bandes" <RunderscoreBandes @yah00.com> wrote in message
news:zbjyc.9574$0g3.1726616@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
> You should also see the lease expiration date-time on the WAN status page
of
> your router.
>
> Ron Bandes, CCNP, CTT+, etc.
>
> "Stevef" <news@stevefarthing.junk> wrote in message
> news😱6-dnaIEQ4BHkFTdRVn-jw@comcast.com...
> >
> > <dold@D-LinkXadm.usenet.us.com> wrote in message
> > news:caapbu$m2s$1@blue.rahul.net...
> > > Stevef <news@stevefarthing.junk> wrote:
> > > > Today I tried connecting the router's WAN port to LAN port 1 and
> setting
> > a 1
> > > > hour lease time as a quick test and the router leased itself an IP
> > address
> > > > but never renewed it.
> > >
> > > That's downright cute. I might try that with a router I have sitting
> > here.
> > > How are you deciding that the address is not getting renewed?
> >
> > No renewal entries in the log file and the IP address stops working -
> can't
> > be pinged. If you manually renew or reboot the router, it logs messages
> > when it requests and receives an IP address. Upon expiration, there were
> no
> > renewal messages in the log.
> >
> > >
> > > The question I usually ask myself when shooting what seems to be a
> > > fundamental flaw:
> > > And how is it that everyone with a DI-624 isn't having trouble?
> > > 1- most are PPPoE
> >
> > Must be a factor.
> >
> > > 2- some have static addresses
> >
> > Probably.
> >
> > > 3- ?
> >
> > Maybe more people are having trouble but haven't figured it out. ( Look
at
> > how long it took doctors to figure out just to wash their hands before
> > surgery. And they resisted the evidence.) The evidence here is that
> mine
> > won't renew and D-Link agrees it does not have the capability. It is
> > curious how many think it does. So maybe there is still some
unidentified
> > setup option that makes the difference. Or D-Link slipstreams their
> > firmware versions so the same version number could have different
versions
> > that have been released. Who knows. I am still curious to find out for
> > sure. Although, with a four day lease from Comcast, I don't clicking on
> the
> > renew button every once in awhile. But it still seems like it should be
> > automatic for the router.
> >
> >
>
>

 

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gary <pleasenospam@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> If the DI-624 stops using the address after the lease expires, the ISP won't
> notice or care. If the average lease time exceeds the average
> time-to-reboot, then many cable users might not notice a lease problem.

The time-to-reboot really only affects the user that has their PC plugged
directly into the cable modem, possibly the bulk of the audience.
Steve could get by if he power cycled his router along with his PC on that
same line of thought.

"Stevef" <news@stevefarthing.junk> wrote in message
> The evidence here is that mine won't renew and D-Link agrees it does not
> have the capability. It is curious how many think it does.

That seems like such a "big" problem. But maybe there just aren't that
many cable users of this router. Who else would really know? If someone
had DHCP trouble on an internal network, they would probably just assign a
static address and forget about it.

So it does work for four days until the lease expires?
If I were you, I'd just set a static address equal to the one assigned by
the DHCP when it worked. That should really work fine. Even after it
expires, it won't be reissued as long as your router is still alive and
responding to ping at that address. I've heard that some ISPs go out of
their way to detect the use of expired addresses, but I'd worry about that
after it happened.

You would have to set your router to respond to WAN pings.
You might even try that first, to see if it magically fixes the DHCP.



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[Five]

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In article <uIvxc.18762$IQ2.9470731
@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>, "Ron Bandes"
<RunderscoreBandes @yah00.com> says...
> Cablevision's Optimum Online is exactly the same. The sharper technicians
> there don't even ask me if I have a router; they see it.

So turn on "BLOCK WAN REQUEST" and they won't see it.

>
> Ron Bandes, CCNP, CTT+, etc.
>
> "Stevef" <news@stevefarthing.junk> wrote in message
> news:3aqdnUtwyOT0kFvd4p2dnA@comcast.com...
> > FYI - Comcast doesn't support routers, only cable modems. If you call for
> > support, one of the first questions is 'Do you have a router?' and if so,
> > please connect your PC directly into the cable modem and exclude the
> router
> > from the situation. They don't object to using a router, they just don't
> > want to be involved in troubleshooting it.
>
>
>

 

[Five]

Archived from groups: alt.internet.wireless (More info?)

In article <KPKdnUuiteCNQFTdRVn-vg@comcast.com>,
news@stevefarthing.junk says...
> Only for an hour during that quick test I did using the 1 hour lease. In
> normal use, the router works quite well other than won't renew the lease
> from my ISP (Comcast). That is a 4 day lease, still tolerable. Yes,
> current firmware v2.42. Thanks.
>


I have firmaware 2.37 and don't have thoes issues.
My wan ip address always stays the same and I don't
pay for static ip address.

>
> "Kevin" <kebuchan@c_eh_n_eh_d_eh.com> wrote in message
> news😀_jyc.8806$_V4.1767@read1.cgocable.net...
> > Steve,
> >
> > So basically you boot up and are connected for an hour then youre internet
> > connection is useless (freezes up).
> >
> > Interesting. I wonder if it's just your router. DI-624 is listed as the
> > most popular router out there in its class.
> >
> > Did you apply all the patches? I'm assuming you did as one of them is a
> > DHCP patch.
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> > "Stevef" <news@stevefarthing.junk> wrote in message
> > news😱6-dnaIEQ4BHkFTdRVn-jw@comcast.com...
> > >
> > > <dold@D-LinkXadm.usenet.us.com> wrote in message
> > > news:caapbu$m2s$1@blue.rahul.net...
> > > > Stevef <news@stevefarthing.junk> wrote:
> > > > > Today I tried connecting the router's WAN port to LAN port 1 and
> > setting
> > > a 1
> > > > > hour lease time as a quick test and the router leased itself an IP
> > > address
> > > > > but never renewed it.
> > > >
> > > > That's downright cute. I might try that with a router I have sitting
> > > here.
> > > > How are you deciding that the address is not getting renewed?
> > >
> > > No renewal entries in the log file and the IP address stops working -
> > can't
> > > be pinged. If you manually renew or reboot the router, it logs messages
> > > when it requests and receives an IP address. Upon expiration, there were
> > no
> > > renewal messages in the log.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > The question I usually ask myself when shooting what seems to be a
> > > > fundamental flaw:
> > > > And how is it that everyone with a DI-624 isn't having trouble?
> > > > 1- most are PPPoE
> > >
> > > Must be a factor.
> > >
> > > > 2- some have static addresses
> > >
> > > Probably.
> > >
> > > > 3- ?
> > >
> > > Maybe more people are having trouble but haven't figured it out. ( Look
> at
> > > how long it took doctors to figure out just to wash their hands before
> > > surgery. And they resisted the evidence.) The evidence here is that
> > mine
> > > won't renew and D-Link agrees it does not have the capability. It is
> > > curious how many think it does. So maybe there is still some
> unidentified
> > > setup option that makes the difference. Or D-Link slipstreams their
> > > firmware versions so the same version number could have different
> versions
> > > that have been released. Who knows. I am still curious to find out for
> > > sure. Although, with a four day lease from Comcast, I don't clicking on
> > the
> > > renew button every once in awhile. But it still seems like it should be
> > > automatic for the router.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: alt.internet.wireless (More info?)

It's good to know there's no inherent problem with the DI-624. I was going
to buy one, then thought I'd look around, especially if their DHCP routines
are messed up.

Thanks,

Kevin

"Five" <Niko@fiveminutesof____.com> wrote in message
news:VkEyc.88435$Ly.64918@attbi_s01...
> In article <KPKdnUuiteCNQFTdRVn-vg@comcast.com>,
> news@stevefarthing.junk says...
> > Only for an hour during that quick test I did using the 1 hour lease.
In
> > normal use, the router works quite well other than won't renew the lease
> > from my ISP (Comcast). That is a 4 day lease, still tolerable. Yes,
> > current firmware v2.42. Thanks.
> >
>
>
> I have firmaware 2.37 and don't have thoes issues.
> My wan ip address always stays the same and I don't
> pay for static ip address.
>
> >
> > "Kevin" <kebuchan@c_eh_n_eh_d_eh.com> wrote in message
> > news😀_jyc.8806$_V4.1767@read1.cgocable.net...
> > > Steve,
> > >
> > > So basically you boot up and are connected for an hour then youre
internet
> > > connection is useless (freezes up).
> > >
> > > Interesting. I wonder if it's just your router. DI-624 is listed as
the
> > > most popular router out there in its class.
> > >
> > > Did you apply all the patches? I'm assuming you did as one of them
is a
> > > DHCP patch.
> > >
> > > Kevin
> > >
> > > "Stevef" <news@stevefarthing.junk> wrote in message
> > > news😱6-dnaIEQ4BHkFTdRVn-jw@comcast.com...
> > > >
> > > > <dold@D-LinkXadm.usenet.us.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:caapbu$m2s$1@blue.rahul.net...
> > > > > Stevef <news@stevefarthing.junk> wrote:
> > > > > > Today I tried connecting the router's WAN port to LAN port 1 and
> > > setting
> > > > a 1
> > > > > > hour lease time as a quick test and the router leased itself an
IP
> > > > address
> > > > > > but never renewed it.
> > > > >
> > > > > That's downright cute. I might try that with a router I have
sitting
> > > > here.
> > > > > How are you deciding that the address is not getting renewed?
> > > >
> > > > No renewal entries in the log file and the IP address stops
working -
> > > can't
> > > > be pinged. If you manually renew or reboot the router, it logs
messages
> > > > when it requests and receives an IP address. Upon expiration, there
were
> > > no
> > > > renewal messages in the log.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The question I usually ask myself when shooting what seems to be a
> > > > > fundamental flaw:
> > > > > And how is it that everyone with a DI-624 isn't having trouble?
> > > > > 1- most are PPPoE
> > > >
> > > > Must be a factor.
> > > >
> > > > > 2- some have static addresses
> > > >
> > > > Probably.
> > > >
> > > > > 3- ?
> > > >
> > > > Maybe more people are having trouble but haven't figured it out. (
Look
> > at
> > > > how long it took doctors to figure out just to wash their hands
before
> > > > surgery. And they resisted the evidence.) The evidence here is
that
> > > mine
> > > > won't renew and D-Link agrees it does not have the capability. It
is
> > > > curious how many think it does. So maybe there is still some
> > unidentified
> > > > setup option that makes the difference. Or D-Link slipstreams their
> > > > firmware versions so the same version number could have different
> > versions
> > > > that have been released. Who knows. I am still curious to find out
for
> > > > sure. Although, with a four day lease from Comcast, I don't
clicking on
> > > the
> > > > renew button every once in awhile. But it still seems like it
should be
> > > > automatic for the router.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >

 

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dold@d-linkxadm.usenet.us.com wrote:
> Stevef <news@stevefarthing.junk> wrote:
>> It would be great if D-Link actually displayed the lease expiration time for
>> the DI-624. That would shed a lot of light on this situation. But they


I discovered two things today about my SMC router connected to a Surfboard
4100 cable modem.

It wasn't playing nice. The internet seemed to be fine, then dfreeze, then
fine, as if the cable modem were having some trouble. I brought up the log
at http://192.168.100.1/logs.html expecting to see some reboots.
There was one, but about an hour ago.

I looked at the SMC router logs, and I can see the DHCP address renweal
occuring every two days, just as expected (one half of the lease time).

06/12/2004 19:19:59 DHCP Client: Receive Ack from 12.223.4.34,Lease time=345600

I did a release/renew. I picked up the same IP address, but now the
internet access seems to be much more stable.

What does that mean? In my case, release/renew "fixes" something that a
regular DHCP renewal doesn't seem to affect.

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---
Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8-122.5