News Data suggests RTX 5090 prices are slowly stabilizing — The average selling price on eBay has dropped to $4,000

It’s even lower in other websites but still, I’m not pulling the trigger at $3,500.

I was able to get a RTX 5070 and I’ll play on that until the prices return to normal. Enough with the
Scalpers.
 
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Could the scalpers "buy" their own $10k 5090's with alternative accounts to make it seem like people actually will pay that much? Even at $4K, I would think only east asian AI would pay that much.
 
Could the scalpers "buy" their own $10k 5090's with alternative accounts to make it seem like people actually will pay that much? Even at $4K, I would think only east asian AI would pay that much.
Ebay will get their cut and unless they get really creative and pretend to ship it outside the country ebay will collect sales tax based on the city it is shipped to. I bet there is a least 20% or more in tax and fees.
 
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Right now, there are 4 different versions of 5090 available, here, in Greece.

The cheapest one (MSI Ventus 3X OC), costs $3,969. The rest of them, are priced at $6,488 (Gigabyte Xtreme Waterforce), $6,891 (Palit GameRock) and $6,703 (MSI Gaming Trio OC) respectively.

Yeah, they 're stabilizing alright! 🤣
 
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I've stated this a million times, and this article proves me right to some degree..

But eBay and it's leniency towards scalping are a huge problem and the main cause of stock shortages such as this. eBay is essentially a "silent" partner in a massive consumer price gouging operation. Scalpers obtain then effortlessly list an item with the soul purpose of limiting consumers purchasing options.. This limiting of retail purchasing options creates a monopoly in which eBay & scalpers price fix the item with impunity. eBay is enriched via exorbitantly high seller/listing fees, thus looks the other way. eBay definitely has the capability to limit these scalping auctions as they do so for other listing activities they deem against their policies.

I my opinion, Nvidia and other companies should pressure eBay to implement the following..

Limit and Restrict 3rd party listing sites such as eBay from offering these types of low inventory, just released items. By enforcing a post-release minimum 90 day ("≤" retail value) policy; on final sale price. So if an items MSRP is $100, it's eBay final sale price can't exceed $100 during that "blackout period". furthermore, including said items in "bundled listings" is also prohibited, example; a 3rd party seller can not list a "custom pc" that includes the restricted item.

This would deter scalpers for at least 90 after the card was released and allow people that actually want to use the cards breathing room.

You see we've all been blinded to the real culprit to this mess.. Mother F-in EBAY and the likes.. If scalpers had no easy way to list and sell their cards to the mass public, most wouldn't even bother putting up the initial capital nor the time need to sell "in person".

We can either implement the above or just go nuclear and straight up begin a class action lawsuit against eBay for its complete disregard for consumer rights protection in its participation in what is basically extortion via product limiting price gouging scheme.
 
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I've stated this a million times, and this article proves me right to some degree..

But eBay and it's leniency towards scalping are a huge problem and the main cause of stock shortages such as this. eBay is essentially a "silent" partner in a massive consumer price gouging operation. Scalpers obtain then effortlessly list an item with the soul purpose of limiting consumers purchasing options.. This limiting of retail purchasing options creates a monopoly in which eBay & scalpers price fix the item with impunity. eBay is enriched via exorbitantly high seller/listing fees, thus looks the other way. eBay definitely has the capability to limit these scalping auctions as they do so for other listing activities they deem against their policies.

I my opinion, Nvidia and other companies should pressure eBay to implement the following..

Limit and Restrict 3rd party listing sites such as eBay from offering these types of low inventory, just released items. By enforcing a post-release minimum 90 day ("≤" retail value) policy; on final sale price. So if an items MSRP is $100, it's eBay final sale price can't exceed $100 during that "blackout period". furthermore, including said items in "bundled listings" is also prohibited, example; a 3rd party seller can not list a "custom pc" that includes the restricted item.

This would deter scalpers for at least 90 after the card was released and allow people that actually want to use the cards breathing room.

You see we've all been blinded to the real culprit to this mess.. Mother F-in EBAY and the likes.. If scalpers had no easy way to list and sell their cards to the mass public, most wouldn't even bother putting up the initial capital nor the time need to sell "in person".

We can either implement the above or just go nuclear and straight up begin a class action lawsuit against eBay for its complete disregard for consumer rights protection in its participation in what is basically extortion via product limiting price gouging scheme.
Nvidia and AMD both deal with high demand products (GPUs), and they could apply pressure to eBay to enforce these types of policies, the difficulty lies in eBay’s business model...they profit from listing fees, so they are not going crack down on scalpers willingly.

The idea of restricting these third party listings may work, but I dont think they would be forced to, given how ingrained this practice is on their platform that users and sellers agree to.

In 2014, eBay was hit with a class action lawsuit from users who claimed that the platform facilitated fraudulent and deceptive sales. All it did was cause funds to be refunded to the users involved but I dont think it was anything to write home about. And remember, as long as people are knowingly paying more, and willing, there isn't any fraud.

The FTC has known about these types of exchanges on eBay and has done nothing in the last 30 years.

Maybe a class action lawsuit against eBay would be an answer. That would require a large group of affected consumers to come together and take legal action, and after all they just want a gpu, some will put up their first born for one.

It could create some publicity, and definitely be news worthy, and that could cause eBay to act. That would take a lot of time and resources, but it needs to start somewhere. I just dont thing the "gamer crowd" is interested in putting the effort in it.
 
In the EU there seems to be no issue getting the 50 series (nor the 9070 series) from retail, all models are in stock from various OEMs. There is no need to resort to eBay at all.

Prices including 19% VAT start at (Monday March24th): €2950 (RTX 5090), €1400 (RTX 5080), €960 (RTX 5070ti), and €660 (RTX 5070) on geizhals.eu, a nice price/feature comparison portal.

Current EU MSRP are €2230/€1120/€880/€620 according to videocardz.com so the gap is closing.

Got myself both a 5070 (at €700) and an RX 9070XT (€900 at launch, €770 now) and I am returning the RX 9070 XT for a full refund, thanks to EU e-commerce legislation.

Perhaps the fact that e-commerce retailers have to absorb the price drop during the mandatory two week free return period avoids a bit of the scalping if supply isn't too scarce.

While the 9070XT may have more raw graphics horse power, its electrical power demands are way beyond the official 303 Watts and would require upgrading the PSU to 750 Watts for the target system. It sucked more then 370 Watts in spikes even when I set a 250 Watt limit.

Also IMHO the AMD GUI is a nightmare, FSR and framegen often enough create visual hallucinations or huge FPS variations, which have me feel perpetually drunk as scenes are blurry while moving/turning and they ony become sharp after resting the view for a second...

I've had huge issues with the latest Nvidia drivers on 40* series hardware, so I went back to the December CUDA drivers on those. Not failures or black screens, but monitor refresh and bit depth wouldn't be recognized properly with my KVM setup.

Yet the newest drivers on the 5070 seem to work much better, hopefully QA will catch up with the older hardware before long.

Boy am I glad that Nvidia still puts most of what I need into a good old fashioned control panel, the gamification of those GPU GUIs/Apps is a terrible aberration.
 
Nvidia and AMD both deal with high demand products (GPUs), and they could apply pressure to eBay to enforce these types of policies, the difficulty lies in eBay’s business model...they profit from listing fees, so they are not going crack down on scalpers willingly.

The idea of restricting these third party listings may work, but I dont think they would be forced to, given how ingrained this practice is on their platform that users and sellers agree to.

In 2014, eBay was hit with a class action lawsuit from users who claimed that the platform facilitated fraudulent and deceptive sales. All it did was cause funds to be refunded to the users involved but I dont think it was anything to write home about. And remember, as long as people are knowingly paying more, and willing, there isn't any fraud.

The FTC has known about these types of exchanges on eBay and has done nothing in the last 30 years.

Maybe a class action lawsuit against eBay would be an answer. That would require a large group of affected consumers to come together and take legal action, and after all they just want a gpu, some will put up their first born for one.

It could create some publicity, and definitely be news worthy, and that could cause eBay to act. That would take a lot of time and resources, but it needs to start somewhere. I just dont thing the "gamer crowd" is interested in putting the effort in it.

correct ebay gets money from listing fees so why would they stop it lol.