Question Dead computer. Many questions.

inZane86

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Hi, I hope everyone is well.

About 2 weeks ago my pc died. There was an electrical disturbance (lights flickering and dimming for a good couple seconds) which I presume was either a surge or a brown out. So I immediately went to my pc which was still running and fine, and hit the off button to initiate shutdown. I turned my screen off so I didn't actually see it shutting down but it appeared to do so normally. I then unplugged it from the wall for 15 minutes. When I plugged everything back in there was a complete dead screen. My hdds and dvd-r seemed to come on as well as my fans, but everything else was dead. The next thing I tried was unplugging my screen from my gpu and into my on board graphics, still nothing. I unplugged everything from my mobo minus the ram and psu using on board graphics, still dead. I then took the pc to the garage where I sprayed it lightly with compressed air (using a water trap), took it back down and tried again, still dead. At this point I tried swapping and re seating the ram, no difference. At this point I'm sure either the cpu, mobo, or psu is dead. So I approach the cpu heats ink and i immediately notice it's loose, which i found odd since I hadn't touched it. I took it off and noticed the thermal paste had turned scaley but couldn't do much more at the time and put it back. I then tried 2 separate spare power supplies. Still dead. I should probably mention that before I sprayed compressed air into my case, the fan rpm seemed muh higher than after, another thing I noticed is that afterward it would auto shutdown after a few seconds. I took the pc to a specialist who plugged my cpu into a mobo of his which had the same pin configuration and manufacturer, still nothing. This after cleaning the ram, disconnecting the power switch and jump starting it, also applying new thermal paste.

I'm at the obvious conclusion I need to replace the cpu, mobo and ram but I'm left very confused as to what happened. I have surge protection but it's 2nd hand and I don't know for sure it works or how to check. My psu still turns on but I'm scared plugging a new mobo into it might cause problems. My psu is a corsair cs650m gold at 5 years old. It's not too bad of a psu to my knowledge but could there be any danger here in keeping it? I have no way of knowing if my other components survived either. Bear in mind the other spare psu's I tried did the exact same thing.

Should I keep my psu? Could everything else be dead?

Could someone give me some advice? Would be greatly appreciated!
 
I think that the most likely scenario is the voltage went high at the wall....the suppressor didn't suppress it well for whatever reason....and the output voltage(s) on the supply spiked and fried things.

I wouldn't risk using the PSU in the future.

Something in it may have been damaged during the event.
 

inZane86

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I think that the most likely scenario is the voltage went high at the wall....the suppressor didn't suppress it well for whatever reason....and the output voltage(s) on the supply spiked and fried things.

I wouldn't risk using the PSU in the future.

Something in it may have been damaged during the event.

Do you think the standard paper clip multimeter test would prove this? Do you think there's a chance my drives survived?
 

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One thing that did puzzle me is the loose cpu fan/heatsink. I read somewhere that Intel cpus measure the temp where it makes contact with the heat sink, whereas amd measures true core temp. My cpu was intel. Is there anything to this possibly? Like could it have been overheating but the shutdown wasn't happening because it wasn't detecting it as too high?
 
One thing that did puzzle me is the loose cpu fan/heatsink. I read somewhere that Intel cpus measure the temp where it makes contact with the heat sink, whereas amd measures true core temp. My cpu was intel. Is there anything to this possibly? Like could it have been overheating but the shutdown wasn't happening because it wasn't detecting it as too high?
I'm not sure about this.
 

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Update: further testing done. Everything else was okay but my board was broken in a weird kind of way. It would start if you took the ram out, booted up without it then powered off, put the ram back in again then switched on. However if you boot up again without touching anything it would be dead again. Thus the only way to get it to work would be to swap the ram every time I want to run it. I tried other ram and a different psu but same thing.