Dead mobo, replace or get a new system

[niz]

And the quad-cores from AMD will beat just about anyhting Intel will make in the 07.

Proof?

The AMD quad-cores will be NATIVE quad-cores, not like the two C2D Intel is planning on sticking together and call it a quad core.
There isnt much info on Intels road map for the next year (just their 80 core dream years from now, but that isnt next year) so this is just a supposition given the actual information.

Please explain what you understand to be the difference between 'native' and 'just stuck together' and why AMD would necessarily be faster. I need a laugh.

OH BTW here's both AMD and Intel's roadmaps. Now who did you say has not much going on in 2007?

Intel Roadmap
Conroe-L - Single Core Conroe, 65nm (2006 - 2007)
Penryn - Mobile chip and successor to Merom, 45nm (2007)
Wolfdale - Conroe Shrink, 45nm, 3Mb L2 (H2 2007)
Ridgefield - Conroe Shrink, 45nm, 6Mb L2 (H2 2007)
Millvale - Single Core Conroe Shrink, 45nm (H2 2007)
Yorkfield - Eight Core CPU, 45nm, 12Mb L2 (2007)
Clovertown - Quad Core Xeon, 65nm (2006 - 2007)
Bloomfield - Native Quad Core, 45nm (2007 - 2008)
Nehalem - Next Gen "Core 3," 45nm (2008)
Tukwila - Itanium 2, and the debut of CSI, 45nm (2008)
Poulson - Itanium 2, a "major uArch change," according to Intel (2009)
Gesher - Next Gen "Core 4," 32nm (2010)


AMD Roadmap -

Rev. G 65nm Parts - They were supposed to be here by now. Where are they?
Brisbane - Mainstream Dual-Core CPU, 65nm (2007)
Sparta - Entry Level Dual Core, 65nm (2007)
Deerhound - Not sure about this one. May be server K8L...
Bulldozer - AMD's next mobile offering. That's all I know.

 

[kamel5547]

And the quad-cores from AMD will beat just about anyhting Intel will make in the 07.

Proof?

The AMD quad-cores will be NATIVE quad-cores, not like the two C2D Intel is planning on sticking together and call it a quad core.
There isnt much info on Intels road map for the next year (just their 80 core dream years from now, but that isnt next year) so this is just a supposition given the actual information.

Native does NOT mean better... If an x2 can't outperform a Core 2 it is doubtful that the quadcores will perform any better as it is not a major architecture change, "just" a revision (i.e. Rev.G/K8L). I would expect AMD to be behind until they change their architecture from the Athlon 64 base it is now.

This is not unlike the fact that x2's outperformed Pentium D's... it wasn't because one was native and the other wasn't, it was because the single core 64 out performed the Pentium 4, if you don't change the core design much you aren't going to magically boost your performance relative to the competition.

Face it, Intel has the advantage for the near future (1 year out) unless AMD drastically changes its plans. THis is much like the fact Intel could not get ahead until they changed their architecture recently.

 

[Assman]

Hey rwaritsdario, thanks for the reply.

I did try to switch PSUs yesterday, but that problem persists.

It looks I'm out out of luck, since I could get my computer to work after a while when this problem first presented itself...

Anyhow, as far as I know, the 65nm Athlons wouldn't be able to beat C2D, and I will probably get a 7600GS so I can afford to get a DX10 when the time comes.

Finally, I do want to hear some recommendations, because I'm leaning towards a C2D E6400, with 2GB ram.

Avi.

There is no reason to get a E6400. Pick up the E6300 and overclock it. Make sure to get at least a 500W PSU if you have to replace that as well.

I agree, very good bang 4 the buck

 

[DemonOne]

Thanks for the info guys, 939 sounds promising, though I'm fixed for some reason on the NF2-4 chipset for the mobo... have no idea what ULi is.

Anyhow, I'm going to pass through 2 pc retailers/labs near my place before work tomorrow morning, so I may ask them to run a check on my hardware, and I hope they have a Socket A system around.

Worst case, I'll go for the 939 solution, which means I'll have to return the x1600 AGP I bought almost two weeks ago for 90% of the original price rebate... probably get a 7600GS PCI-E instead.

The only problem now is that I don't want to spend more than about $150, but I can't help but to think about needing more RAM, though the fact I have a dual channel setup has finally got me.

 

[DemonOne]

Man, newegg.com only delivers within the US, and furthermore, they only receive american credit cards.

This sucks.

Might have to ask some relatives of mine to pick up the check...