Dead motherboard - Keep the PSU or nah?

Exeynora

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A few days ago, while loading up a game, my PC decided to lose all video signals and the GPU fans started spinning at max speed. No big deal, it has happened before. A restart usually fixes it.

Except this time it didn't. There was still no signal.

I opened the case and it smelled like burnt plastic, badly. I thought it was the PSU (a Seasonic S12II-620w), so I obviously got worried. Eventually managed to get video signal back, but upon booting into Windows (10 if it matters), it would instantly shut down and kinda act like its struggling to start up (starts turning on and instantly dies again). All the while it worked fine in BIOS and Safe Mode (go figure..).The voltage in the BIOS seemed kinda off, low 11s/high 10s. The burnt smell never went away too, so I decided not to risk it and get a new power supply.

Cue 2 days later. New PSU arrives, a Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 650w. I get everything connected, turn the PC on aaaaaand nothing. The fans are spinning, the peripherals are on, but there's no video signal. There's also a clicking noise from the PSU. When I say i've tried everything, i really mean it. 3 different GPUs, cleaning the CPU, the CMOS jumper, a NEW CMOS battery just in case. It just wouldn't POST. While it was at least booting earlier (with the old PSU). Used a multimeter to measure the voltage and when connected to the motherboard, they would jump between 12 and 9, as if something was straininig it. So the verdict was either a dead motherboard (or a dead CPU, hopefully not both).

I've already ordered a new motherboard, that's not really the problem. What I can't decide on is if I should even keep the new PSU? I've jumped the old one and measured the voltage on most of the pins, it all seems perfectly good (there's this one blue cable that is 11.60w but afaik that's within reason). I opened it and there is no visible damage inside, i've also left it running for about half an hour and there's no smell whatsoever.

I'm not opposed to keeping the new PSU but there's no reason to throw away the old one if its not even to blame the motherboard simply decided its time for it to go.

TR;DR:

PC shut down, bought a new PSU cuz i thought the old one was at fault. PC went from booting (barely) into BIOS/Safe Mode to not POSTing at all. Turns out mobo is fried and old PSU might be perfectly fine. Should I keep it or change it for the newer one just in case?

Relevant Parts List:
Intel Xeon e3-1231v3
ASRock B85M-DGS
OLD power supply - Seasonic S12II-620w
NEW power supply - Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 650w
 

Barty1884

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How old is the S12II-620W? And what new hardware do you propose running moving forward?

The fact your board got fried, involves the PSU in some way - and if it were me, I'd replace it.

The S12II, while a dated platform is still a capable unit in it's own right. When it's known, working without issues, of course.
It's a no-contest between the S12II and Focus+, with the Focus+ being a higher quality unit and with modern protections.
 

shknawe

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Your new power supply is superior to your old one. It has twice the amperage at 12v rail and is higher efficiency gold rated, etc etc. Makes more sense to put new power supply to new motherboard in case your old power supply was the culprit in killing your motherboad.
 

Barty1884

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No it doesn't? The S12II-620W has a max, combined 48A over dual 12V rails.
https://seasonic.com/s12ii#specification

The Focus Plus is 54A.
https://seasonic.com/focus-plus-gold#specification



Agreed.

There is also 10 year warranty with the Focus Plus (vs 5 on the S12), so a better option all-round.
 

Exeynora

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I got it some time in 2015. The motherboard i'm gonna be using (assuming the CPU/RAM isn't also toast) is gonna be a n ASRock H81M-VG4 R3.0. Seems like a pretty budget motherboard but Socket 1150 mobos are ridiculously hard to find where I live, so its either that or the ASRock H81 Pro BTC, which seems to be pricier because of all the PCI slots.

I'll probably stick to the Xeon until either it or the new motherboard gets fried (or something tempting comes out on the market, i suppose). Don't really feel like upgrading when i'll have to also replace the RAM, considering the current prices.

Anyway, I also feel like using the new PSU, its probably not worth risking it and 4 years isn't too bad.
 

shknawe

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Yes two into 48 is 24a per rail. The gold rated rail is 54a. So it is twice the amperage per rail I was pointing out.