defrag

[zeroyb]

how are you supposed to defrag in win 2k? or it has some filing system that doesn't require defrag?

 

[lhgpoobaa]

no...
win2k does require defragging.
though possibly not as often as 98/ME.

a fully defragmented system does give you better performance.

use the inbuilt win2k defragger, which happens to be a decent one, or get an external one like
O&O defrag (i use this, its good)

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[OldBear]

You can use your "Windows desktop"...right click on the drive you want to defrag...choose "properties"...then "tools"... and defrag away.

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[btvillarin]

How come you use O&O Defrag compared to Diskeeper?

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[lhgpoobaa]

well i think its a bit faster (maybe)
definately more options and stuff

but what i like most is its graphical displays. i like watching the files move around

boot time defrag is also nice


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[mbetea]

oh man, i'm sure glad w2k and diskeeper isn't how nt4 and diskeeper were. every single time on a boot-time defrag with nt4 would get a blue screen, then have to reinstall :frown: . hehe i never did quite figure it out, but after the 3rd time i stopped boot-time defrag. reinstalling an OS ain't so bad these days, but man back then, i had all my backups on a parallel port zip drive, oh gawd that sucked!

 

[btvillarin]

Alright...I see...

I've been looking it up, and here's some comparison charts.
<A HREF="http://www.oosoft.de/english/products/oodfamily/cp-dk.html" target="_new">O&O Defrag vs. Diskeeper</A>
<A HREF="http://www.diskeeper.com/diskeeper/dk-comparison.asp" target="_new">Diskeeper 7.0 vs. Disk Defragmenter in Win2K</A>

I find it stupid that Diskeeper doesn't compare itself to O&O Defrag. So, it seems to me that O&O Defrag is better than Diskeeper...

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[lhgpoobaa]

well had some mderal luck this weekend...
i was getting the occasional bootup parity and controller error with my hard drives... so i tried replacing the 60cm rounded cables with better 48cm ones.
so no more control errors by the looks of it

i use win2k hibernate mode 99% of the time now. so having a boot time defrag isnt too much hastle. when i DO have to reboot, its usually for newly installed apps, so a defrag at the same time is a good idea.

ive also tied in my on/off button to automatically hibernate, which is pretty cool. no more start -> shutdown -> hibernate... just "sput the button" and it autohibernates.

APCI is pretty cool. and boottime defrag keeps things tidy on the odd ocasions i have to reboot.

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[mbetea]

do defrag programs have different algorithms or something that they use to determine what's fragmented and what isn't? i tried O&O defrag(just space defrag) at least by the cute little blocks it still looked pretty fragmented. so i uninstalled it and tried dk 7. analyzed the same drive and was coming up as heavily fragmented. ran it and came back with not one fragmented file. hmm, should try and run O&O again and see what it says.

 

[lhgpoobaa]

well o&o has 3 different methods.
pure defrag just recombines split files and moves everything close to the start of the drive... good for cleanups, nice and fast.

the other two, sort by name or date rearrange almost everything in your drive, arranging all the files in each directory by its name or date. takes much longer, but gives good results.

as for the blocks that look fragmented... i bet they are either pink, purple or green right?
they are locked files, swapfile or system files respectfuly, and cannot be moved while IN win2k.
to move them u gotta do a boot time defrag of all system files.

when i last reinstalled win2k it was a mess, and it took some time to boot up. after a ful defrag and boot time one it now goes alot quicker.

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