Dell Inspiron 580 with Xeon X3440

[kevinjss1]

I have a Dell Inspiron 580 with lga1156 I want to install a Xeon X3440 I found a good deal on everywhere seems to say that it can only support core i3 and i5's for the record they are both LGA 1156

 

[photonboy]

Your motherboard site will have a CPU support list.

Unfortunately with a DELL pre-built I don't know if you can get access to the list.

*Keep in mind the socket must support it yes, but the BIOS must also contain an entry for the CPU. If Dell didn't put in such an entry (and they may not since there's no reason to) it might not boot.

(Perhaps that's what other people mean by saying it only supports i3 or i5 but I don't know... you MUST know exactly which CPU's are supported)

 

[kevinjss1]

I know it's a Foxconn motherboard, the closest I have to a model number is 115XDPB or 9AX2 any idea if I could find that anywhere, would Foxconn be able to tell me? And is it possible for me to add an entry myself, the only issue being if it's corrupted, it most likely dosent have an autorestore function.

-- EDIT the motherboard is a Foxconn DH57M02 Optiplex

 

[bambiboom]

I have a Dell Inspiron 580 with lga1156 I want to install a Xeon X3440 I found a good deal on everywhere seems to say that it can only support core i3 and i5's for the record they are both LGA 1156

kevinjss1,

Looking at Passmark user benchmarks, of 89 tested, there are no Inspiron 580's with a Xeon of any designation.

The highest CPU score is 4246 for an Inspiron 580 using an i5-760 ( 4-core @ 2.8 /3.33 GHZ)

http://ark.intel.com/products/48496/Intel-Core-i5-760-Processor-8M-Cache-2_80-GHz

Which might be quite usable for general purposes, but not brilliant. The 580 apparently does get quite good results from a GTX 750 ti- 3D scores of 3500-3600.

A used i5-760 costs about $70 and you might look into selling the 580 and buying an Dell or Compaq with an i7. $150 can go quite a ways.

Cheers,

BambiBoom

 

[photonboy]

I know it's a Foxconn motherboard, the closest I have to a model number is 115XDPB or 9AX2 any idea if I could find that anywhere, would Foxconn be able to tell me? And is it possible for me to add an entry myself, the only issue being if it's corrupted, it most likely dosent have an autorestore function.

-- EDIT the motherboard is a Foxconn DH57M02 Optiplex

1) No you can't add it yourself.

2) Evidence suggest only i3 and i5 as you said. No i7 and definitely not XEON apparently.

3) Ask Foxconn?
You can try... no site for the board that I can find.

 

[csandreas1]

Did you find if it is supported? I want to upgrade to a xeon 3470 but i don't know if it's compatible

 

[csandreas1]

Your motherboard site will have a CPU support list.

Unfortunately with a DELL pre-built I don't know if you can get access to the list.

*Keep in mind the socket must support it yes, but the BIOS must also contain an entry for the CPU. If Dell didn't put in such an entry (and they may not since there's no reason to) it might not boot.

(Perhaps that's what other people mean by saying it only supports i3 or i5 but I don't know... you MUST know exactly which CPU's are supported)

Can he upgrade the bios version and use the cpu he wants?

 

[bambiboom]

Your motherboard site will have a CPU support list.

Unfortunately with a DELL pre-built I don't know if you can get access to the list.

*Keep in mind the socket must support it yes, but the BIOS must also contain an entry for the CPU. If Dell didn't put in such an entry (and they may not since there's no reason to) it might not boot.

(Perhaps that's what other people mean by saying it only supports i3 or i5 but I don't know... you MUST know exactly which CPU's are supported)

Can he upgrade the bios version and use the cpu he wants?

csandreas1,

The Inspiron 580 uses the Intel Ibex Peak H57 chipset and here is the definitive list from Intel as to the processors supported, which = 0 Xeons.

There are 119 Inspiron 580's tested on Passmark. the highest CPU rating is 4246.8 using an i5-760 (2.8 .3.2GHz), WDC WD1001FAES drive, and with a GT 640 and 8GB of RAM. Highest 3D rating is 4169 from GTX 950 and the best Disk Mark is 2689 from a Samsung 840 Pro. The 300W power supply will be limitation in GPU choice.

Not to throw a wrench into the works, but perhaps your friend would consider selling the Inspiron 580 and looking a good Dell Precision T3500, which have 525W PSU's- these can use two GPU's up to 150W each, supports 2, 4, and 6-core Xeons up to turbo speeds of 3.8Ghz, 24GB of RAM, and where $250 goes a long way.

I bought for $53:

Precision T3500 (2011) (Original) Xeon W3530 4-core @ 2.8 /3.06GHz > 4GB (2X 2GB) DDR3-1333 ECC > GeForce 9800 GT (1GB)> WD Black 500GB
[Passmark system rating = 1963, CPU = 4482 / 2D= 609 / 3D=805 / Mem= 1409 / Disk=1048]

And about $200 later plus some parts around:

Dell Precision T3500 (2011) (Revision 2) Xeon X5677 4-core @ 3.46 / 3.73GHz > 12GB (6X 2GB) DDR3-1333 ECC > Quadro 4000 (2GB) > PERC 6/i + Seagate 300GB 15K SAS ST3300657SS + WD Black 500GB > 525W PSU> Windows 7 Professional 64-bit > 2X Dell 19" LCD
[Passmark system rating = 2751> CPU = 7236 / 2D= 658 / 3D=2020 / Mem= 1875 / Disk=1221]

The LGA1366 was a particularly good Xeon series with many choices . These Precisions are ultra-reliable- no components failures since 2009. Relative quiet too.

Just a thought.

Cheers,

BambiBoom

HP z620_2 (2017) (Rev 1) > Xeon E5-1680 v2 (8-core@ 4.3GHz) / z420 Liquid Cooler / 64GB DDR3-1866 ECC Reg / Quadro P2000 5GB / HP Z Turbo Drive M.2 256GB + Intel 730 480GB + Seagate Constellation ES.3 1TB / ASUS Essence STX PCIe sound card / 825W PSU / z420 Liquid Cooling > Windows 7 Prof.’l 64-bit > 2X Dell Ultrasharp U2715H (2560 X 1440) / Logitech z2300 2.1 Sound
[Passmark Rating = 6322 / CPU rating = 17178 / 2D = 852 / 3D= 8998 / Mem = 3017 / Disk = 14227 / Single Thread Mark = 2339 [7.3.17]

 

[csandreas1]

Your motherboard site will have a CPU support list.

Unfortunately with a DELL pre-built I don't know if you can get access to the list.

*Keep in mind the socket must support it yes, but the BIOS must also contain an entry for the CPU. If Dell didn't put in such an entry (and they may not since there's no reason to) it might not boot.

(Perhaps that's what other people mean by saying it only supports i3 or i5 but I don't know... you MUST know exactly which CPU's are supported)

Can he upgrade the bios version and use the cpu he wants?

csandreas1,

The Inspiron 580 uses the Intel Ibex Peak H57 chipset and here is the definitive list from Intel as to the processors supported, which = 0 Xeons.

There are 119 Inspiron 580's tested on Passmark. the highest CPU rating is 4246.8 using an i5-760 (2.8 .3.2GHz), WDC WD1001FAES drive, and with a GT 640 and 8GB of RAM. Highest 3D rating is 4169 from GTX 950 and the best Disk Mark is 2689 from a Samsung 840 Pro. The 300W power supply will be limitation in GPU choice.

Not to throw a wrench into the works, but perhaps your friend would consider selling the Inspiron 580 and looking a good Dell Precision T3500, which have 525W PSU's- these can use two GPU's up to 150W each, supports 2, 4, and 6-core Xeons up to turbo speeds of 3.8Ghz, 24GB of RAM, and where $250 goes a long way.

I bought for $53:

Precision T3500 (2011) (Original) Xeon W3530 4-core @ 2.8 /3.06GHz > 4GB (2X 2GB) DDR3-1333 ECC > GeForce 9800 GT (1GB)> WD Black 500GB
[Passmark system rating = 1963, CPU = 4482 / 2D= 609 / 3D=805 / Mem= 1409 / Disk=1048]

And about $200 later plus some parts around:

Dell Precision T3500 (2011) (Revision 2) Xeon X5677 4-core @ 3.46 / 3.73GHz > 12GB (6X 2GB) DDR3-1333 ECC > Quadro 4000 (2GB) > PERC 6/i + Seagate 300GB 15K SAS ST3300657SS + WD Black 500GB > 525W PSU> Windows 7 Professional 64-bit > 2X Dell 19" LCD
[Passmark system rating = 2751> CPU = 7236 / 2D= 658 / 3D=2020 / Mem= 1875 / Disk=1221]

The LGA1366 was a particularly good Xeon series with many choices . These Precisions are ultra-reliable- no components failures since 2009. Relative quiet too.

Just a thought.

Cheers,

BambiBoom

HP z620_2 (2017) (Rev 1) > Xeon E5-1680 v2 (8-core@ 4.3GHz) / z420 Liquid Cooler / 64GB DDR3-1866 ECC Reg / Quadro P2000 5GB / HP Z Turbo Drive M.2 256GB + Intel 730 480GB + Seagate Constellation ES.3 1TB / ASUS Essence STX PCIe sound card / 825W PSU / z420 Liquid Cooling > Windows 7 Prof.’l 64-bit > 2X Dell Ultrasharp U2715H (2560 X 1440) / Logitech z2300 2.1 Sound
[Passmark Rating = 6322 / CPU rating = 17178 / 2D = 852 / 3D= 8998 / Mem = 3017 / Disk = 14227 / Single Thread Mark = 2339 [7.3.17]

Nice, how can you see the passmark tests? I have an rx 460 on dell inspiron is i7 870 a good cpu for that card?

 

[bambiboom]

Nice, how can you see the passmark tests? I have an rx 460 on dell inspiron is i7 870 a good cpu for that card?

csandreas1,

Unfortunately, there are no results shown for the i7-870 in an Inspiron 580. It seems as though it should work as it is compatible to the chipset and also 45nm, but in fact, there are no results for any i7 for the Inspiron 580. The specifications for the Inspiron 580 are the very first edition and it states sort of generically that Intel Pentium, Intel Core i3 , and Intel Core i5 are the CPU's offered. I was not able to find a specific CPU list. Possibly the limitation Pentiums, i3's, and i5's is a Dell line marketing decision, at the time, to have an i7 meant buying an Optiplex or similar.

I tried a search for the RX 460 and the nearest result is for i5-6402P with a 5080 G3D - really good for a CPU of that generation- but which may not be a fair estimate of performance in the Inspiron.

To do advances searches of Passmarks baselines means having the program. There is a 30-day free trial, but purchasing is only $27- one of the great software bargains for anyone pursuing computer performance. I find Passmark incredibly useful as when buying, upgrading, ot building, it's possible to look for the best CPU, motherboard, drive, GPU, optimal amount of RAM, and best drives. If you're building a system you can input the selected components in an advanced search and have an idea of the eventual performance.

Cheers,

BambiBoom

 

[csandreas1]

Nice, how can you see the passmark tests? I have an rx 460 on dell inspiron is i7 870 a good cpu for that card?

csandreas1,

Unfortunately, there are no results shown for the i7-870 in an Inspiron 580. It seems as though it should work as it is compatible to the chipset and also 45nm, but in fact, there are no results for any i7 for the Inspiron 580. The specifications for the Inspiron 580 are the very first edition and it states sort of generically that Intel Pentium, Intel Core i3 , and Intel Core i5 are the CPU's offered. I was not able to find a specific CPU list. Possibly the limitation Pentiums, i3's, and i5's is a Dell line marketing decision, at the time, to have an i7 meant buying an Optiplex or similar.

I tried a search for the RX 460 and the nearest result is for i5-6402P with a 5080 G3D - really good for a CPU of that generation- but which may not be a fair estimate of performance in the Inspiron.

To do advances searches of Passmarks baselines means having the program. There is a 30-day free trial, but purchasing is only $27- one of the great software bargains for anyone pursuing computer performance. I find Passmark incredibly useful as when buying, upgrading, ot building, it's possible to look for the best CPU, motherboard, drive, GPU, optimal amount of RAM, and best drives. If you're building a system you can input the selected components in an advanced search and have an idea of the eventual performance.

Cheers,

BambiBoom

Thanks for your help. Can you answer my main question here?: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-3469954/intel-core-760-870-xeon-x3460-x3470-gaming-socket-1156-chipset-h57.html