Dell XPS for $2500

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7900GS in a $2500 gaming system? Wow they really must be kidding!

It's Dell's revenge. Every AMD system is 100s less with more RAM and HDD and GPU.

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And the award for the most moronic post of the day goes to.........

suprise, suprise...Baron Matrix. How unusual.
 
The XPS is an alternative for Dell buyers that are not willing to make the switch to Alienware or another high end custom 'puter builder. It is an ego product. A bit like an Audi versus a Volkswagon, or a Lincoln versus a Ford. Sometimes the high end product is bigger, better, faster, sexier.

Sometimes.


XPS 700 might be big bucks, but the same guts in a standard Dell Dimension 9200 is a whole lot less.

For the record, there are differences in pricing models. Home buyers, small business buyers, and medium/large business buyers have a different price structure and the computers are stocked with different "accessories" and support services. There are volume discounts that the "Average Joe" will never see.

I just priced out a 9200 for $1301. Don't know if it is truly identical. But it looked roughly apples to apples.

An "identical" HP to that Dell 9200 was $1322..

Change the mix of "stuff" and the HP would be cheaper by those few bucks.

Sure I could buy the individual parts and make the computer for less.

Maybe.

My time costs money. I think I am very valuable. Do I want to spend my days (and nights) playing with computer parts to save a few $.

What if I was having to build computers for every member of my extended family .... and their friends and neighbors?

Those few $ that I saved doing my own suddenly don't appear so great.

And then there is support. Preloaded software and hardware, and a single contact point to correct problems is quite attractive. Especially if the problem is complex, such as no video display which could be related to a wide range of hardware and software sources (or a poor connection on a video cable ... from the voice of experience).


The computer that we are describing would be considered moderately high end.

Try buying the components for a low end computer and doing it cheaper than Dell, HP, Gateway etc. Good luck. Those $399 computers are extremely hard to beat.

The flip side to that coin are true high end computers ... dual CPU's, mega RAM, 5 HD workstations with advanced graphics cards supporting dual monitors. Building such a 'puter would be much cheaper than buying the 'puter from Dell or HP.

Not very many people build their own high end computers. But there sure are a lot of those high end computers sold each and every day.

Why not build your own high end 'puter? Because every body's time is worth $. And then there is that support issue for a complex device.

(and businesses and governement customers that buy 99% of the high end computers are not going to waste their time trying to build the computers that they need)


Between the low end price leaders and the ultra high end super PC's is the only point which the price of builiding your own is attractive and practical. If you want to compare your basic home made 'puter, then compare it to the off the shelf equivilent 'puter.

If you want to bash the Dell XPS, then compare that 'puter to other "custom" off the shelf 'puters, such as Alienware, Voodoo etc.
 
If you're referring to what I said about my friend, the newegg machine was 1100, the Dell machine was 1300, a difference of 200 dollars. And to my friend it was worth it because.
1) the system came ready to turn on, didn't need to be built or configured
2) OS was installed, sure it had other stuff on it that wasn't needed, but I think it's pretty easy to Start>Control Panel>Add/Remove Programs...
3) Tech support, not that great if you're speaking to a guy you can barely understand, but at least I don't have to call Seagate, Gigabyte, Intel, Crucial, or look up their numbers if one of my parts goes bad.

EDIT: BTW I'm a big advocate of building your own system if you have th time and know how. My friend had the know how, just not the time. In those situations I support buying a Dell, HP, Alienware, whatever... Sure it's a whole seperate entity trying to make money off your 1 purchase you just got to know what to buy to make it the best value for YOU. At newegg and such it's easy to do that because you have control over what goes into your system.

Sorry. I meant the difference between $1300 and $2500. (Yeah my math is a lil funny 😉 It's fuzzy logic :)