DiamonDisc DVDs Last 1,000 Years

[exfileme]

Although the DiamonDisc DVD may last for 1,000 years, they're not exactly cheap.

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[ubernoobie]

no thanks, 35 dollars a disk is like a cheap flash drive

 

[goodguy713]

i think the world would end before that ! only thing watching them would be aliens or roaches.. lol

 

[backin5]

Considering the fact that hard-drives come in Terabytes these days, shouldn't they spend their efforts on a larger capacity media?

Though it would be nice if software, games, music and movies came on durable media. Especially considering the fact that making backups of your legally purchased discs has been made illegal by greedy corporates who want you to buy another copy if your disc should ever fail.

 

[maigo]

sounds like a good deal to me, assuming it actually has more than 50 years of shelf life. I might even get my gold plated punch cards converted

 

[lashabane]

...physically etches your information into the...stone disc

We're back to etching things in stone?

"Hey Moses! Bring me those tablets and a chisel!"

 

[Guest]

But hey didn't they say that when the first DVD's or CD's came out?? They were going to last 100+years?? Maybe this will be the same thing but hey they will have your money. Like the remark above storage is huge nowadays. For backing up? Splitting up huge files, to get on 4.7G parts. When you want to restore these files 10 years later you wont be able to find the decompressor anymore or file stitcher. Even if you put the program on the backup itself it won't run under the OS you will use then.

 

[Shadow703793]

[citation][nom]lashabane[/nom]We're back to etching things in stone?"Hey Moses! Bring me those tablets and a chisel!"[/citation]
No. It should read: "Hey Moses! Bring me those diamond disks and a laser!" :lol:

 

[Shadow703793]

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[Honis]

[citation][nom]Shadow703793[/nom]What's Twitter? /sarcasmI don't think I want to follow you tweeting[/citation]Think of all the spelling and grammatical errors!


Cool media! It definatly has its uses in the industrial sector to replace arcane tape backups.

 

[nonxcarbonx]

They last 1000 years?

So does a whopper.

 

[matt2k]

diamond? the diamond bearings i worked with were a coupla grand a pop, no etching. this be no diamond!
but seriously, only for hardcore back ups i guess

 

[jimmysmitty]

[citation][nom]ubernoobie[/nom]no thanks, 35 dollars a disk is like a cheap flash drive[/citation]

And considering that most TVs these days can access a flash drive and show the contents such as musci, video and photos that would be a 16GB flash drive....

 

[beayn]

Who says a disc lasts 2 to 5 years? I've got some CDs here I've had for more than 15 years and all work fine. I have some DVDs I've had for 6 years and they still work fine. I've yet to have any problems with any of my super old discs.

 

[beayn]

Who says that discs only last 2 to 5 years? I've got some CDs here that I burned about 15 years ago that still work (burned on my 1x burner). I've got some DVDs burned about 6 years ago that still work fine. I've yet to have any problems with any of my oldest discs.

 

[tuannguyen]

[citation][nom]Honis[/nom]Think of all the spelling and grammatical errors!Cool media! It definatly has its uses in the industrial sector to replace arcane tape backups.[/citation]

"definatly" --- oh the irony...

 

[mlopinto2k1]

[citation][nom]tuannguyen[/nom]"definatly" --- oh the irony...[/citation]Don't let these guys get to ya. Anyway, seriously... about that 2 to 5 year remark... I've heard the same thing that disc's, when taken care of.. can last a pretty long time, 100+ years?

 

[hakesterman]

2 to 5 years for a DVD, I think your either on Dope or are haveing some kind of memory loss. A standard DVD will last up to 100 years under normal conditions. Who is going to need a DVD after that length of time? Most people don't live to be 100 years. So they have a disk that will last up to 1000 years, great call me when it's the same price of current blank DVD's.

 

[buwish]

Aaah nothing like having a disk to pass down through 10+ generations of family members. By the time it gets to the last person in 3009, they won't even know what a DVD player was.

 

[christop]

It's not even a double layer for 30.. Crazy. How is it you say a standard dvd will last only 2 to 5 years. I find that hard to believe maybe if you store it outside in the weather it would make it's life span short but if it was in a controlled environment I think it would last 100 years or so..

 

[FloKid]

No. It should read: "Hey Moses! Bring me those diamond disks and a laser!"

Why? So they can't read them for another 6,000 years? They are not guarnteed for that FYI. Anymore words of wisdom, son?

 

[Vermil]

[citation][nom]christop[/nom]It's not even a double layer for 30.. Crazy. How is it you say a standard dvd will last only 2 to 5 years. I find that hard to believe maybe if you store it outside in the weather it would make it's life span short but if it was in a controlled environment I think it would last 100 years or so..[/citation]
I'm afraid that may be far too optimistic. I have a number of CDs and DVDs that have stopped working. And they're not even burned, but pressed originals. One DVD wasn't even more than a few years old. I also have quite a few CDs that are quite old and still in shape. But there seem to be a some deal of uncertainty. As for storage, all in case and clean, dry, constant temperature indoor conditions. None subjected to sun or fumes of any kind.
My family albums are stored on Kodak Ultima Gold CDs and on multiple harddrives on multiple computers. I think that is the key to preservation, at least for now. Redundancy and keep copying to new digital storage.

 

[jestern]

@Vermil (Damn quotes aren't working!)

Actually you may not have burned your discs satisfactorilly. Even though whatever software you are using to burn your discs may have reported a successful burn, your disc(s) probably were burned with a number of errors (Some of them critical which renders the disc unusuable instantly) and some which lead to unusability over a short period of time with 'minimal' disc degredation. Even using a not so good dvd/cd drive with poorer error correction and reading ability can nix that borderline burnt disc.

I remember trying to install a program off of an old cd and getting an abortive error which I couldn't get around. A disc scan using Nero CD/DVD software showed just one very high error reading in one part of the disc that was the cause.

You should scan *all* your discs after burning for critical errors before deleting any vital nfo, esp. with the flakiness of DVD-R/+R media today. If you do this and keep your discs free from excess moisture and temperature they shouldn't have any problems lasting until the next archive format rolls around (15+ years easy).

If your pressed media goes bad then it was probably borderline to begin with; probably poorly pressed at the factory (I'm sure not every cd/dvd is pressed to the same quality. You figure at the speeds they probably press these discs something is gonna go off).

 

[Vermil]

@jestern. Yes, I agree to all points. But actually, my old burned CDs are good, and I expect them to remain so, because of the silver/gold alloy and the durable dye Kodak used. I use Nero.
My understanding is that detoriation in the aluminum layer is one of the problems. So it doesn't help when discs are factory pressed and don't rely on fugitive dyes. And as I said, my problems have mainly been with pressed discs. I always assumed that the aluminum layer would hold up if I just stored my music CDs well, and didn't expose them to humidity etc. Well, that turned out to be an illusion. This is an important realization, since it concerns DRM and justified copying. I hate pirate scums and I have some understanding for DRM. But this is crucial issue: The original is not permanent. I imagine movie DVDs and Blueray will run into the same problem eventually.
(and, of course, none of my discs are scratched. That's not the problem. They look pristine.)

 

[WheelsOfConfusion]

People talking about small capacity or high cost are missing the point, I think. The whole idea is to emphasize longevity. There are times when that's more appropriate than storage size. Some of the magnetic tapes used by NASA decades ago are no longer readable, not because of a lack of tape drives but because parts of the tape can degrade over time (especially if stored improperly).