DirectX 11 GPUs - Is the first gen worth waiting & buying?

[mactronix]

The price/perf is where AMD are at as a company at this moment in time and it would be very stupid of them to start raising prices over and above reason now, especially as money isn't exactly flowing freely for most people right now.
What i would expect them to do is keep prices down and performance up with these next set of cards with the profiteering coming into play with the refresh or next set of cards if/when DX11 has proven itself.
If they crank up prices now and the cards are the same as with the DX10 cards, which were by the way pitiful performance wise compared to the older gen cards as paranoidmage eluded to, on purpose or having a little dig i don't know, but it has happened before. Well if that happens again they will just be giving the green team back for gratis all the ground they made up with the 4 series.
For that reason alone i cant see the cards just being the same as a 4890 but with DX11 support, if that's where the performance is then the price needs to be lower as well or they will be pointless without DX11 support from games etc.
AMD may have turned a corner but they still need to keep the low price high perf ratio going to consolidate market share in my opinion.

More speculation perhaps but its just what makes sense to me, then again when did anything make sense in this game 😉

Mactronix

 

[olkka]

Woaa 😀! Thanks to Hindesite, Mactronix and others for theirs answers!

Yeah, I'll probably wait a few months as DX11 cards pop up. Then see some reviews/benchmarks and DX11 cards impact on DX10 (48xx) cards!

 

[josherrr]

wait 4 a 5870x2 F.T.W

 

[OvrClkr]

The price/perf is where AMD are at as a company at this moment in time and it would be very stupid of them to start raising prices over and above reason now, especially as money isn't exactly flowing freely for most people right now.
What i would expect them to do is keep prices down and performance up with these next set of cards with the profiteering coming into play with the refresh or next set of cards if/when DX11 has proven itself.
If they crank up prices now and the cards are the same as with the DX10 cards, which were by the way pitiful performance wise compared to the older gen cards as paranoidmage eluded to, on purpose or having a little dig i don't know, but it has happened before. Well if that happens again they will just be giving the green team back for gratis all the ground they made up with the 4 series.
For that reason alone i cant see the cards just being the same as a 4890 but with DX11 support, if that's where the performance is then the price needs to be lower as well or they will be pointless without DX11 support from games etc.
AMD may have turned a corner but they still need to keep the low price high perf ratio going to consolidate market share in my opinion.

More speculation perhaps but its just what makes sense to me, then again when did anything make sense in this game 😉

Mactronix

Makes perfect sense to me as well but unfortunately that is not the case.... The pricing will remain the same as it is now... The cards will have a significant boost in performance and most likely will cost more due to that alone... Ati cards will be cheaper than the Nvidia cards but not by much.... Most peeps here on Tom's are drooling over the whole DX11 crap when it is obvious that we wont see it's true potential till maybe mid next year when there are a couple of games that can really benefit off of it....

 

[Hindesite]

wait 4 a 5870x2 F.T.W

$$$

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

And by saying itll be a year is pure speculation as well. No one knows but a few game devs, some ATI employees and M$ employees. So, your answer of not better is as good as itll be better. Time to wait. It wont be that long

 

[OvrClkr]

Looks like you have high hopes there Jay !!!

Im guessing it will be the same as when DX10 came out....many peeps expecting earth-shattering perfomance boosts and eye-candy and once it came out most were not happy with the outcome.... Hopefully this time we will see real gains....

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Im of the mind itll be me having to wait, and others being surprised, sorta in between

 

[mactronix]

Im wondering, because i have a short memory with these things.
When was the last time ATI/AMD botched a launch that was actually thier fault ?

Mactronix

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

[:jaydeejohn:6] Not sure what you mean....

 

[Mousemonkey]

Im wondering, because i have a short memory with these things.
When was the last time ATI/AMD botched a launch that was actually thier fault ?

Mactronix

Botched a launch? or released something that wasn't worth a toss?

 

[mactronix]

Both work i guess
Mactronix

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Both the 1800 and the 2900 were delayed If I remember right. The 2900 was botched due to the 80nm node leakage, and they couldnt hit their desired clocks, that and the DX10 debacle didnt help. Without fixed function AA, the 2900 did quite well. Turning it on under DX10 howver.....

 

[FLanighan]

The 8800 series were the first gen DX10 cards and are still considered decent for gaming despite having been released 2+ years ago. If the same is true for DX11 GPU's then you could pay $400-600 now and not have to upgrade for 2-3 years.

 

[mactronix]

Both the 1800 and the 2900 were delayed If I remember right. The 2900 was botched due to the 80nm node leakage, and they couldnt hit their desired clocks, that and the DX10 debacle didnt help. Without fixed function AA, the 2900 did quite well. Turning it on under DX10 howver.....

So as i said not exactly their fault. the 2900 that is
My point is that i dont think a launch that turns into a damp squib is very likely especially as the tech is all but being used anyway, sure there are a few things that are new and may need some bedding in but i dont see them missing the mark on Both performance and price.
More than one poster has said it may turn out like teh DX10 launch but i just dont see how that can happen.
Worst case scenario i see is DX11 is not what was prommised but we still get a faster card.

Mactronix

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Totally agree. And is that so bad?

 

[mactronix]

Nope not at all 😉

Mactronix