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Hi so I've been off and on for about a week now trying to make sure everything for my internet is stable, I've replaced our old modem and router with brand new store bought ones (modem=arris sb6190 v3) (router=netgear n900 dual band).. both of these seem to be working fine and should be over kill for what my internet service plan allows (150-200mbps).

All of last week while playing ffxiv stormblood I've been getting 90k error (disconnected from server) and what seems like slight rubberbanding. My internet doesn't show that it's dropped and i can still watch videos on youtube during these times, listen to radio podcasts without them buffering or stopping, etc. I tried playing smite to see if i'd have any issues with a different game a few days ago and while i didn't get disconnected from that game there was some bad server lag going on, sort of like slight rubberbanding.

I've been trying to do all sorts of tests to figure out if the issues I'm getting is coming from my internet or if it's purely something else? I've already had two techs come out and check our cables and splitters, our main coax line goes from the cable box to a 4 way splitter which has cables going to our tv boxes and either one of those 4 cables goes to our modem or it goes into another splitter (2 output) which then goes into our modem and the other cable doesn't go anywhere (it's just there plugged in).

Now the first tech replaced the old 2 way splitter with a new one and replaced the coax cable leading from the splitter to our modem, aside from that he said his health checks seem fine aside from some issue he can't figure out.. we had a 2nd tech double check what he did and he put a new coax cable going from the cable box to leading to our splitters.

While the last 2 days seem to have been okay when i play ffxiv (minus one d/c or two in those days), I've been keeping a log of speedtests all on the same server living about two hours from chicago and using a comcast server each time. What I seem to notice is the first day i would do a test each hour and the stable numbers i'd be at is (ping=16-17, down=125-156mbps, up=24mbps) now below i'll explain the logs more..

first day (start time 9am to end time 3am)

solid stable numbers from 9am-2pm
upload speeds went from 24 to 7-11mbps from 3pm-4:30pm
my brother was downloading a game on steam from 5-6pm (download went to around 27-45mbps, upload around 9-20mbps)

after his game was finished downloading everything from 6:30pm-3am was stable looking again.

now.. second day (start time 2:20pm-2am)

stable numbers from 2:20pm-5pm
around 5:30pm-5:50pm upload went from stable 24mbps to around 10mbps.
things looked stable again but i d/c'd from ffxiv at 6:33pm where upload showed 21mbps, otherwise from 6:20-7:40pm things were back to solid.

from 8:15pm-9:10pm i was watching a steam as i played ffxiv but only speed difference i saw was download went from 125-126 to 123-124, upload was solid 24 still.

after that everything was solid to 2am..

now today so far (start time 21:37pm-3pm)

stable numbers from 12pm-1pm.
around 1:38pm I got d/c'd from ffxiv and happened again and again from 1:38pm-2pm

1:38pm (ping 17, down=126mbps, up=23mbps)
1:43pm (ping 16, down=126mbps, up=21mbps)
1:52pm (ping 17, down=126mbps, up=1.76mbps)
2pm (ping 17, down=125mbps, up 4.97mbps)

after that things seemed stable again from 2pm-3pm so far, around 2:30pm i was at 125mbps down, 23mbps up and testing it at 3pm showed 126mbps down, 22mbps up.

3:22pm.. I got d/c'd from ffxiv again, down=122mbps, up 24mbps.


Now that the logs are out of the way.. Does this seem like there's still an issue with something on my end? I've been thinking that I should try unpluggin the main coax cable leading from the cable box, putting it directly into the modem coax cable by using a adapter/extender to bridge the two cables.. that way i can make sure the issue isn't being caused from any of the splitters or extra cables, etc. I believe my modem signals seem fine for me to go ahead and do this.. I'm just at a loss.. our provider is comcast and i hate to say it but i fear most of their techs don't seem to care about stuff. I'll link a picture of my modem signals below..

http://imgur.com/a/TUno2

All speedtests were by using speedtest.net

Anything I can do aside from that to figure out if my internet is okay? I'm willing to do anything to make sure I'm solid.. it just seems weird that speeds stay really stable but then sometimes i catch it dipping really really low and i understand times of the day and internet traffic, etc. but why would my upload speeds be changing so much like that?

 
Solution
No, those losses are normal. You'll always have some losses but they'll be minimal and those latencies look good too. If you ran this for 10 hours and constantly had these results, then you're good. But that should be obvious in your gaming. Are you having issues while playing or in voice chat?
Yeah this is exactly why I stopped going with the bigger networks in our area and went for a smaller independent one. Well that and shady practices of hidden fees and price gouging, price increases without notice, changes in services without notice and so on 😛 But also cause they were useless when connection was iffy.
Granted, we're not exactly spoiling for choice in providers here, it's pretty much a monopoly between 2 big ones, but still there are a couple small ones, and they have been awesome tech support wise.
 


I wish our area had options but sadly comcast has bought out the area, I'm starting to wonder if these issues aren't more on the games end of issues.. I ping to 8.8.8.8 all day along side ffxiv's server ping and at most i'll lose 1 packet out of 40,000 or so.. and ms at max goes to 120ms from 25-30ms (most likely stuff i've got running in background on computer for that cause).

Going to try to contact tech support once again tomorrow around noon in hopes of having someone in the states fully understand what's up and at the very least just a 24 hour monitor of network would work.. lol.
 


I might have figured out the issue at hand.. some people thought that my sb6190 modem was the issue at hand, I guess there's all sorts of issues with the cpu/chip set they used for that modem and after returning that modem for a cm600 it's been one day so far but my ping tests to ffxiv and google servers are below.

Ping statistics for 204.2.229.10:
Packets: Sent = 38055, Received = 38047, Lost = 8 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 67ms, Maximum = 111ms, Average = 74ms

Ping statistics for 8.8.8.8:
Packets: Sent = 38320, Received = 38316, Lost = 4 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 21ms, Maximum = 57ms, Average = 26ms

(at least 3 packet losses were from me changing settings in my router which triggered it to refresh the connection quick.)

My only concern now is with the tests above if that low packet loss is considered normal or a slight issue still? Had these ping tests running side by side for about 8-10 hours.
 
No, those losses are normal. You'll always have some losses but they'll be minimal and those latencies look good too. If you ran this for 10 hours and constantly had these results, then you're good. But that should be obvious in your gaming. Are you having issues while playing or in voice chat?
 
Solution


So far no issues while playing or while in voice chat, so I guess in the end it was due to the sb6190 modem in case anyone else has issues with that setup. Just wanted to double check if the slight packet loss was normal though before leaving my worries behind me, etc. lol.

Thanks for all the help with everything which helped lead me towards the main issue at hand, hopefully anyone else experiencing these issues and owns a sb6190 can test that as the issue and get it fixed.
 
Thanks for leaving the feedback. I never would have thought about the modem and now thinking back I remember once running into similar issue and my ISP right away upgraded my modem but of course totally forgot about this until now.
 


eyup hope if others try searching around this info helps out, one of my tech friends I play ffxiv with even said the modem would've been one of the last things they would've thought was the issue at hand. Another day of ping testing and had a very small amount of packet loss with it only happening one packet before going straight back to normal, etc.

I suggest if anyone has any issues to double check this list below which lists any modems that use the puma 6 processor that's known for these issues (might not be an issue with all brands, etc.)

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r31122204-SB6190-Puma6-TCP-UDP-Network-Latency-Issue-Discussion