Discussion: Polaris, AMD's 4th Gen GCN Architecture

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Well, the 480 was the only announced card. $200 MSRP. 150W TDP. The only game they really showed was Ashes of Singularity, which is no surprise considering its Async Compute and AMD favoring. 2 R9 480s, according to them, produced more FPS than the GTX 1080 at <$500.

Of course, to be taken light as salt. The TDP is not as low as I was hoping, but it's still pretty good.
 


I feel like this is going to be an interesting Nvidia vs AMD battle. For one thing, it is clear than Async computer favors AMD, even over the Pascal architecture. So we may see some games with way higher FPS on AMD hardware over Nvidia, just blowing it out of the water. And on the other hand, we may see some games where Nvidia blows AMD out of the water. Perhaps the games all won't be so similar and close but rather performance will vary distinctly. Just a thought.

If what they say FPS-wise about Ashes of Singularity is true, then Polaris I'm guessing has been ultra-optimized for Async computer perhaps? I don't know.
 

It's suspicious more than anything. On Tom's review, that performance is right about the level of a FuryX (~60 FPS). So two RX 480's equal to a FuryX is a bit less impressive sounding. A lot of it depends on perspective. And yes, good ol' Ashes of the Singularity has been a very good friend to AMD.

I just can't imagine they were planning to sell these cards for $200 a month ago. That can't be good for their bottom line, but I guess they have their very existence on the line so anything goes.
 


Now that I look back at the Toms review of the 1080, why is the 390X so low? I thought the 380/390/390X were Asynch Computer beasts?
 
Hahah, I'm dying of laughter. They're like, "We have a special video on Zen". The video just goes: "I" *pause* "Am" *pause* "Zen" - and then it's over. :lol:

They said Zen coming in a few weeks for consumers, though probably Q3 until you can really get your hands on one.

Oops, this is Polaris discussion 😀

Is Polaris the same as the RX GPUs?
 
must be the same as it is all they talked about. was not expecting much and got pretty much what i expected.

wish they could have teased a price or benchmark for zen cpu's. 16 threaded zen should benchmark pretty nicely if they were so inclined to tease us
 
Huge problem is the game selection.

That is not an accurate representation, but rather to show how poorly NVIDIA cards run DX12. As long as there aren't multiple titles available that properly use DX12, then we can't go by anything when comparing it to other games. Ashes is so far the only one...
 
I get enjoyment reading the comments fly by on Youtube. It's quite hilarious actually. Now, let's think of this logically: Nvidia will release the 1060. It'll have a lower TDP than the 380 (since the 960 was a 120W GPU, I expect the 1060 to be about the same or less. 380 is 150W). So Nvidia will definitely win the power fight. The only thing we don't really know is how Polaris performs, though. The only piece of knowledge we have is that two Polaris 480 GPUs perform better than a 1080 in Ashes of Singularity, according to them.

One thing that confuses me is he said the GPUs were also only at 50% utilization so they have even way more potential that what was seen. That does not make any sense to me, does it make sense to you? Vsync had to have been off, so why would GPU utilization be so low? Did they stick it with a dirt old bottlenecking CPU?
 
the picture looked a lot better foe the 1080. might have been my eyes but i could see more detail in the 1080 side.

@suzuki and of course amd will use a game that suits their product. where is the whining that nvidia DOES NOT use that game to show off their cards? they chose games that they helped make which happen to make their cards look a lot better. get a clue, the idea is to show yourself in the best light so why would they pick a game that makes them look bad? anyone who bases anything on these pr stunts deserves to be deceived anyway. anyone with a lick of sense waits for real world reviews and benchmarks.
 


Actually AMD has marketed the ($229) 8GB version as a 1440p card. While the ($199) 4GB version I guess is aimed more for 1080p. Article re the launch of the RX480 on wccftech, which was actually a refreshing read. Worth a looksy imho. Tom's will likely be featuring a similar article soon enough though.
 

Ashes of the Singularity uses the same engine as the Star Swarm demo, created by Oxide over two years ago as a showcase for AMDs Mantle. It is the very definition of an "AMD game", developed by AMD, promoted by AMD, used as marketing for AMD, and most importantly, optimized for AMD (Hitman is the other one). The AotS benchmark results probably shouldn't be interpreted directly as a gauge of async compute performance and DirectX 12 in general. It's equally as likely that AotS performance results are due to AMD specific optimizations baked into the game engine over several years' development. In any event, we need some other, more neutral DirectX 12 game benchmarks before anyone can pass judgement.
 


Nobody is whining, relax.
 
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