Note1: I'm not expert, but I've read and dabbled in these products for about a year now, so take my advice as you see fit.
Note2: I own or have used Spyder HDTV 3 & 4, X-Rite i1Publish with i1Pro 2 meter, Colormunki Photo, & SpectraCal CalMAN with C6 meter.
You mentioned to warm up your monitor, which is rightfully said. But don't forget to warm up your room lighting as well (for the same purposes) if you plan on using the ambient light sensor reading or making any manual adjustments at the end of the calibration process!
Someone Somewhere :
It would be nice to have the option to calibrate the monitor instead of just using colour profiles though. It can get irritating to run the same test on multiple OSs or computers attached to the same monitor.
I agree. But higher-end monitors come precalibrated, meaning any source which doesn't alter the image/color data will be reproduced properly on one of these displays (or at least as good as the factory calibration provides).
master9716 :
The Before Picture looks More Realistic
Looking at any before and after pictures on your monitor is a pointless exercise, for two reasons: 1) your monitor would have to be calibrated in the first place (which means you don't need this product), and 2) even if your monitor is calibrated the change in any image on the review's monitor is specific only to his monitor and it is sending a different color to his monitor than what the image data says, so that when his monitor reproduces the (altered) color it actually appears as the intended (original) color as found in the image data (actually this argument holds even if your monitor isn't calibrated).
For example, if the color in the image is gray (R128,G128,B128), and the Spyder meter reads a green-ish color (R110,G128,B110), the color profile will alter the original gray color (to perhaps R140,G128,B140) as it leaves the video card. The monitor then receives a signal/color with more red and blue to compensate for the lack of red and blue in the color reading from the sensor reading, which makes the color displayed to the user closer to the intended gray (R128,G128,B128).
Integr8d :
It's not about what looks more realistic. It's about reproducing, as closely as possible, what the photographer or designer or director saw on his or her monitor. In other words, of you're calibrated and they're calibrated and the picture still looks like crap, you can actually blame it on the other person for having such bad taste.
Following my answer to the quote directly above, perhaps it's that your monitor was correct at first and the changes to the review's profile made it worse for you (i.e., made the images duller and too red), but actually made it better for him (i.e., fixed his gamma and added the red his monitor was at first lacking). If you're correctly calibrated and an unaltered image looks worse, then the quoted comment above is valid. But perhaps instead of bad taste, maybe it was the artist's intent. Nevertheless, an artists "taste" can play a big role into what looks good or not as well.
Lastly, many people aren't used to viewing content (e.g., movies, images, your desktop background, etc.) on a properly calibrated display, therefore things will look different and even at times look "wrong" or "off." For example, images and movies might appear too "warm" (i.e., too red) because the user it used to viewing content too "cool" (i.e., too blue) without knowing it. Even the basic UI elements in Windows and Mac OS appear quite different on a properly calibrated display, and that's simply because I'm actually viewing it correctly now!
hp79 :
Where's the actual before and after photos? It would have been much better to add what you guys got after the calibration instead of just using their over exaggerated before-and-after marketing slide.
See my comments above.
Traciatim :
I've been looking at picking up a calibration tool set for a while so I liked reading this article. My question though is that I want to use my setup to calibrate TV's for friends, Monitors, Laptops, multi monitor setups, TV's with PCs and Multiple other devices attached . . . I was looking at getting the Spyder4 Elite and the TV HD upgrade but it seems like if I calibrate a TV with a PC attached using the TV HD version and then try to do the PC with the software then is that going to mess up the previous settings?
If anyone has any experience with these tools in multi-use and multi-display scenarios or has a better option on what tools to get I would really appreciate any info.
TV calibration works differently, at least it does in the terms of using Spyder's HD TV calibration (as far as I am aware, as I used Spyder's products in the past). With those products, you are actually drilling into the menus on the TV (e.g., hue, tint, brightness, contrast, temperature, etc.) and making the changes in the TV as you take readings. The changes are made and saved on the display device (i.e., the TV itself) and not on the connected computer; this is what the first quote above is referring to. Since the settings are saved on the TV (i.e., if you set your TV to "movie mode," turn it off, and turn it back on it'll still be in "movie mode") you can calibrate many TVs using the same software. Be aware that many TVs have settings for each input, so you might have to write down the final settings after calibration on the input you used and duplicate it on the other inputs (if that's your intent).
Note however that if you're using a PC to generate the test images/colors for the calibration process, instead of a downloaded or bundled DVD or Blu-ray movie with the color patterns on it, make sure the first thing you do is disable any color profiles on your computer! If not, the colors on the TV will only be correct when using that PC, and wrong when the Blu-ray player, for example, is connected to that input.
If you have the same PC connected to a monitor as well as your TV, then you run into a bit of a problem. If you're simply using the PC to calibrate the TV, the just look at the warning in the above paragraph. But if you play your content from your PC and watch on the TV AND you have a monitor connected to the PC which you also use, then there's a possible issue. I'm not 100% sure about how Win8 handles multiple monitors and color profiles, but I believe it's the same as Win7. More specifically, it is that Windows has a limitation that only one color profile can be loaded at once and it is applied to all monitors (and TVs, as you're using the TV as a monitor) connected to the same computer. Perhaps it only applies to all monitors connected to a single video card (i.e., if you have two video cards, each with a monitor attached, then two color profiles can be used), but I'm not sure. On the other hand, Mac OS X handles multiple displays much better and you are able to specify a different color profile (or the same if desired) for each display independant of all others. What does this mean? Basically it means that you'll need two color profiles (one for the PC monitor and one for the TV) and only one display will be displaying colors correctly, depending on which color profile you have loaded. So you'll have to switch between the profiles depending on which display you want to be correct in that moment, or have one wrong all the time (i.e., the monitor will always be wrong so you TV can always be correct).
If you don't have the HD TV upgrade, then only the computer connected to the TV will be calibrated properly while the input used for your Blu-ray player will be wrong. With the HD TV upgrade, you are basically calibrating the TV for each input, regardless of what's feeding the input (e.g., Blu-ray/DVD player, cable/satellite set-top-box, XBox/PlayStation, etc.) So for best results with a PC connected to a PC monitor and a TV (with the TV's accuracy having higher priority), use the HDTV calibration process to get the TV to the best possible calibration, then calibrate the PC monitor but use the manual controls (hopefully your monitor has RGB controls). If you create a profile while using the PC monitor calibration, don't use it. At this point the monitor and the TV will be as close to each other as possible while only using control build into the displays themselves. Then go back to the TV and use the
monitor calibration process on the TV and use the profile that you just created. This way your TV will be accurate while your PC monitor will be close to it. Perhaps I'm way off in the deep end as I'm no expert, but that's how I think you could do it.
envy14tpe :
emccalment :
This morning I didn't know this existed!! Now I must have one!!!
Except that I'm too cheap to drop $250 for a slightly better picture. That, to me, still seems like a lot of money unless I'm replacing my transmission.
You can get the Spyder Express 4 for $100. However, it limits you to calibrating one monitor per computer.
There are 3 Spyder4 models: Express, Pro, and Elite.
See my multi-monitor limitation comment above; just search for "handles multiple monitors" in my answer immediately above.
Honis :
In future monitor reviews can you put up comparisons between profiles (when available.) My Dell U3011 came with RGB and Adobe color factory profiles and it would be nice to know how close those profiles are in terms of the manual calibration results.
Cheaper monitors come with the game, movie, etc profiles and comparing those would be great too.
Your display should have come with a personalized (i.e., specific to that monitor only) printout from the calibration process at the factory as my Dell monitor did. To achieve best results with one of these displays without owning a calibration device, make sure there is no color profile loaded in your OS settings (Mac defauls to "monitor" or something generic like that), then set the "Preset Mode" of your monitor to sRGB. You're all set/calibrated. Your average DeltaE 2000 error should be <= 3 which is great (this means any changes in color reproduction should no be noticable to a normal person). From the factory my DeltaE for the same monitor was about 2 (according to the print out), but after calibrating I got it down to 1.18 average. Changing any of the other modes will only make it less accurate.
I hope this helps everyone out.
-GWolfman