Question Do better pc cases have less resonance?

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Jason H.

Jason H.

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Okay so quick explination to my question..

I recently built a PC with a gtx 1060. Randomly after about 1 month I started to hear a weird low tone hum. But not just a steady hum, more like a "rolling hum" where it sounds like it revs up then down, up then down, at 65% fan usage on the GPU.

I bought a new pair of fans for the GPU and installed them. Although the hum is MUCH less loud, I can still hear it even with the new fans. Thing is the hum wasnt there 1 week ago... and now its still there with new fans so how is this even possible?

Idk much about cases but I have a cougar mx330 its a decent little budget case.

Would a cheaper case cause this hum/resonance? And would a better case eliminate it?

PC Specs

CPU- RYZEN 5 2600
GPU- GIGABYTE GTX 1060 3GB
MOBO- MSI TOMAHWAK B450
RAM- 2X4GB DDR4 3000MHZ 1.35V
SSD- SAMSUNG 860 EVO 250GB
HDD- WD BLUE 500GB
WINDOWS- WIN 10 HOME
CPU COOLER- COOLER MASTER HYPER T2
CASE FANS- ANTEC X3 120MM PRIZM FANS
 
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Jason H. said:
I hate to say this but its a bit late lol. Ive done all of that and I have a custom curve and the issue only happens at around 58-65% fan usage. Which I bought new fans and installed them. The issue was cured only about 80% as some of the resonance still remained.

Read through the comments <3
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I did read through the comments and that of your custom fan curve which the curve temp vs rpm speed would dynamically change between that small thermal gap where you have audible humming. The sound is very slight variation in the video, thought to suggest to hold the graphics card or the mounting screw to see if the humming stops, thats if the vibration is going through from the face of the gpu to the case. If it helped i was going suggest try put rubber washer, O ring or similar under the screw head to minimise metal to metal vibration.

Anyway, sorry for that. Think you'll have fun buying another case, enjoy.
 
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boju said:
I did read through the comments and that of your custom fan curve which the curve temp vs rpm speed would dynamically change between that small thermal gap where you have audible humming. The sound is very slight variation in the video, thought to suggest to hold the graphics card or the mounting screw to see if the humming stops, thats if the vibration is going through from the face of the gpu to the case. If it helped i was going suggest try put rubber washer, O ring or similar under the screw head to minimise metal to metal vibration.

Anyway, sorry for that. Think you'll have fun buying another case, enjoy.
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it may sound slight in the video but trust me, its pretty loud even overpowering my 2 interface powered monitor speakers in low level youtube situations.

Heres the thing. My fan curve is very stable, trust me there is no "coincidental" reving up and down moments due to biased temp vs fan curve transitions.

This is not a fan curve issue at all. In fact I had to change my fan curve before installing the new fans to make the curve skip 58-65% usage COMPLETELY so I didnt have to hear this weird hum.

I installed the new fans and the hum ALMOST, about 80% went away. When I tip the whole pc on its side, the hum COMPLETELY goes away.

This leads me to believe 1, the fans are NOT stable upside down at all... and 2.. you did not read the comments as you would understand this. However idk you nor your native language or anything so I do not pass judgement on you based on not understanding the full information given at all.
 
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You putting the case on it's side, that's what gave me the idea about holding the graphics card as tipping case may have put more pressure on some areas and or the graphics card. Never mind. English is my only language, maybe you're speaking Chinese. I'm joking. Sorry for the confusion.
 
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boju said:
You putting the case on it's side, that's what gave me the idea about holding the graphics card as tipping case may have put more pressure on some areas and or the graphics card. Never mind. English is my only language, maybe you're speaking Chinese. I'm joking. Sorry for the confusion.
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lol its all good man but as stated in previous comments I already tried bracing the gpu.

Also the issue was there before and after I removed the shroud and replaced the fans so couldnt be a issue.
 
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boju said:
Had another listen. Have you tried lifting the case off the desk?
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yessir I have as its made of wood and loosely screwed screws and I felt the under side could be creating a resonance. ( is a table ive had since 16, 28 now, and had all my friends sign it then I spray painted it black to get my pc off the floor)

SO I put it on the carpeted floor, and tbh was almost worse than on the table, but this was before the new fan installation.
 
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Jason H. said:
Nvidia needs to up their game lol
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It's not Nvidia, unless you bought a reference/founders edition card rather than an aftermarket model. Since you have a Gigabyte, and dual fans, it is not a reference design. So like I said before, it's potentially the fact that on a lower end 3GB model of card Gigabyte made the decision to use a cheaper cooling configuration that likely includes less expensive fans, a cheaper fan mounting system and less into the actual design and testing of the card to ensure problems like bad harmonics don't exist from the start.

One thing you might be able to do, if you wanted, but I don't think it's worth the investment really, is looking into a DIFFERENT cooling configuration for that card. Personally, if it were me, I think I'd probably think about a higher end graphics card as well at some point especially if changing cases doesn't fix the problem OR just keep the current case and get a better graphics card and THEN change cases if you still have an issue.

I guess either way there's a chance you might still end up needing to get two different components, or else accepting the fact that it's going to have bad harmonics and put headphones on. LOL.
 
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Darkbreeze said:
It's not Nvidia, unless you bought a reference/founders edition card rather than an aftermarket model. Since you have a Gigabyte, and dual fans, it is not a reference design. So like I said before, it's potentially the fact that on a lower end 3GB model of card Gigabyte made the decision to use a cheaper cooling configuration that likely includes less expensive fans, a cheaper fan mounting system and less into the actual design and testing of the card to ensure problems like bad harmonics don't exist from the start.

One thing you might be able to do, if you wanted, but I don't think it's worth the investment really, is looking into a DIFFERENT cooling configuration for that card. Personally, if it were me, I think I'd probably think about a higher end graphics card as well at some point especially if changing cases doesn't fix the problem OR just keep the current case and get a better graphics card and THEN change cases if you still have an issue.

I guess either way there's a chance you might still end up needing to get two different components, or else accepting the fact that it's going to have bad harmonics and put headphones on. LOL.
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Can my system run a 1070 8gb?

550w psu
 
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Noctua fans are often difficult to hear when sitting right next to them....1 foot distance...even with the case open. You most certainly will NOT hear them inside a case...(unless the case has harmonic resonating vibrating side covers, etc..; normally you can determine if that is what you are hearing simply by touching/pressing a case's side/top covers, as applicable)
 
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Darkbreeze said:
Not the greatest quality PSU, but should work ok with a GTX 1070 for however long it holds up.
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Yea I just grabbed it cuz it was on sale and Im not pushing it very hard with my current setup.

I ran a Logysis 450w uncertified on a gtx 750 and a a8 5600k for 4 years lmao... was livin life on the edge.

But ty for all the help man! Im gonna be upgrading my video card soon and selling this one.

What would the resale value be seeing as I replaced the fans already lol?

I still have the originals as well.
 
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My feeling? I think a 25% drop in price from retail is appropriate for it being used and a further 10% drop in price for it being from a previous generation of card. Keep in mind, by "retail" I mean what it last sold for when it was being sold right before the current generation came out.

That means it was selling for about 160 bucks back in December through February based on the PCPP historical price history, so that minus 35% means that IMO about 104 bucks is probably fair. Given the fact that you have an extra pair of fans for it, if you include them, you might add maybe half of what you paid for the fans to the price but keep in mind that extra fans for a card that works might not have much value to any potential buyer.
 
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Darkbreeze said:
My feeling? I think a 25% drop in price from retail is appropriate for it being used and a further 10% drop in price for it being from a previous generation of card. Keep in mind, by "retail" I mean what it last sold for when it was being sold right before the current generation came out.

That means it was selling for about 160 bucks back in December through February based on the PCPP historical price history, so that minus 35% means that IMO about 104 bucks is probably fair. Given the fact that you have an extra pair of fans for it, if you include them, you might add maybe half of what you paid for the fans to the price but keep in mind that extra fans for a card that works might not have much value to any potential buyer.
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Yea I figured about 100 bucks.. I paid 184 for it haha + 28 for the fans
 
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