Do I need a soundcard if I'm making music

Bollo

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Do I need a soundcard if I'm making music other than the standard onboard one? I would only be able to spend like £20-30.
I never understood if a soundcard helps with CPU or jus produces a better quality sound
Will be using cubase various vsts like
Massive, FM8 ect


Thanks :)
 
I would also like to know!

Many peeps are saying spend $100+ for a soundcard lol, no point on the cheaper ones idk, lets hope someone can help us!

 
I would ignore Shaun_Shaun. Not being rude, but if you want to get into professional Audio buying an Audiophile card is an lesson in stupidity.

Just so you know, I produce for a living so I will be somewhat biased.

Why goes something like this. Having the best 'sounding' sound is not what you want, having the most accurate sound is. When you make a track that sounds great on your system then take it to your friends/label A+R/potential clients system etc you'll understand why. And 'Audiophile card' adds tot eh mix, coloring the sound and making it sound unlike the actual waves you're working on inside your PC, this makes you make bad decisions. For a simple example you could mix a track with too little bass because your card boosts bass and you EQ down the bass in your mix to compensate.

If you want to produce I suggest getting an Audio Interface, not a sound card. They are not hugely expensive, but most come as external units due to the considerations that have to be made when making this Mac compatible (due to Logic and Digital Performers large user base this is a big consideration). You look for 'reference' sound, clear and untouched at the output stages. You also want a pair of studio monitors. 5 inches is fine for someone starting out, but I'll recommend Rokit 6's to a newb with the intention of upgrading when you decide it's worth the investment as they are great for truly "opening your ears". (They sound awesome when you first buy them but after a few months you start to listen to a lot more details in your mix and start being able to pick faults in your music as you get used to them)

May I recommend Focusrite Saffire 6 for the budding noob or Echo Audiofire for the guy who wants a 2 track out that he will still be coming back to the day he can justify a $30000 Pro Tools rig.

As for why not to use a cheaper soundcard there are a huge array of reasons. First one is quality, but that is self explanatory. Second is noise. Noise is a big one. All $30 cards and integrated ones have huge amounts of electrical noise in the background. This distorts the sound coming out in everything you play them out of. When you get to the stage where you have decent monitors, they will hiss like a mutha--ker too. The hiss adds all kinds of crazy problems to your sound Phase Issues, Nyquist crushing, hard saturation, small degrees of digital distortion and color. It's not even subtle when you hear the difference between them and even a simple Lexicon Omega (which is what I would buy if I was severely finance limited).

If all else fails, the only internal card I can say is usable is the old Black with gold parts full size PCI Creative X-Fi Units. They have Burr Brown converters and are actually waaaay too much bang for their buck but finding them would be extremely hard now and I heard they had issues with drivers on Vista (probably fixed now).
 


At that price you should be considering an outboard unit. Taking the circuits away from all the electrical noise inside your case is the way to go when going for a clean sound.

Try: https://www.google.com/shopping/product/11642148201036651536?q=focusrite+2i2&biw=1869&bih=1135&prds=paur:ClkAsKraX1-WjVuCxEQ9H2UUe63FlEyYJMRvIf7K-IquxnMLMosHkb0Ypvp420vXCSQ1-l7Hx7u6M_uobbQmZyGM2TpdqO1Q-T8h-oxf8YVYuNblSR5dniaGKRIZAFPVH723qkZ9vU3papNlNS7PZ7h1TOonng&sa=X&ei=cpwMVZSeBZDhaLqcgZAI&ved=0CFsQ8wIwAA

or maybe:

http://www.midi-store.com/Akai-Professional-EIE-Pro-Audio-Interface-p/SKU211531.htm if you can afford to stretch a little, but don't get the non-pro as it lacks a killer feature that is very important to production: ASIO.
 
These options look a little hardcore for my needs. I just want to buy something that will be able to give me a taste of mixing/making my own music. The card I am looking at that I showed you will still be useful to me even if I do not end up continuing with making my own music. I want the card to be able to deliver great sound for music and gaming as well as providing the ability to dabble into more advanced audio options. Such as music creation/mixing and possibly recording audio. From what I've seen so far this card seems to encompass all of these for a fair price. Thank you for the options that you have given and I will keep them in mind in the future should my music interest remain strong. :)
 
Suit yourself, but you Xonar decision seems like a waste of money to me. Both options will be "just as useful to you" if you decide to stop mixing because both options have exactly the same output options (but the audio interfaces have ins as well). 192khz is actually a marketing scam and the cheapness of DAC and clock that will be sampling out to 192khz will actually be jittery as hell, effectively ruining your sound.

But don't listen to me, I'm just do it for a living. Truth is if you're learning to mix, you won't be able to tell the difference between your onboards, the Xonar, and an Interface for the first 6 months, but when you get it, you'll stop mixing entirely unless you have the right kit because you'll notice that you can't get rid of annoying issues in the mix because it's not the mix: it's your sound card.

If you want 7.1, etc etc get a basic Soundblaster and save your money. I have 3 Interfaces and all of them have a system attached to them and get used, even though I'm the only one in my house that mixes.