[SOLVED] Do I need to upgrade my grandson's pc? Advice Needed!

[epconrad]

My 11 yo grandson has asked me to upgrade his pc so I can gift him some games he wants (what's a grandad for after all?) Below is the current configuration which needs to be upgraded to i7a-7700K and GTX-1080 (according to what is listed as minimum requirements). What do I need to accomplish this (new motherboard needed, different case because of the new motherboard, etc.)? He plays with Oculus Quest VR and looking to play "The Wizards Dark Times VR" , "Boneworks", and "Asgards Wrath".
Any and all help would be greatly appreciated so that I can maintain my "hero" status in his eyes!!
He has the Oculus Quest and has been playing games with the current configuration, but he wants MORE POWER!
UPDATE: Motherboard is Asus Z97-K Power Supply: Corsair CX600
I've also taken a few photos that better minds than mine can interpret...

CPU-Z TXT Report
Processors
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Number of sockets 1
Number of threads 4
APICs
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Socket 1 ID = 0
Number of cores 4 (max 4)
Number of threads 4 (max 4)
Manufacturer GenuineIntel
Name Intel Core i5 4690K
Codename Haswell
Specification Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4690K CPU @ 3.50GHz
Package (platform ID) Socket 1150 LGA (0x1)
CPUID 6.C.3
Extended CPUID 6.3C
Core Stepping C0
Technology 22 nm
TDP Limit 88.0 Watts
Tjmax 100.0 °C
Core Speed 4299.0 MHz

L1 Data cache 4 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L1 Instruction cache 4 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L2 cache 4 x 256 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L3 cache 6 MBytes, 12-way set associative, 64-byte line size

Turbo Mode supported, enabled
Max non-turbo ratio 35x
Max turbo ratio 43x
Max efficiency ratio 8x

BIOS
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UEFI Yes
BIOS Vendor American Megatrends Inc.
BIOS MSG 63-0100-000001-00101111-080913-Chipset
BIOS Date 08/09/13
Mainboard Vendor 000001
Chipset
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Northbridge Intel Haswell rev. 06
Southbridge Intel Z97 rev. 00
Graphic Interface PCI-Express
PCI-E Link Width x16
PCI-E Max Link Width x16
Memory Type DDR3
Memory Size 24 GBytes
Channels Dual
Memory Frequency 1066.5 MHz (1:8)
CAS# latency (CL) 11.0
RAS# to CAS# delay (tRCD) 11
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 11
Cycle Time (tRAS) 30
Row Refresh Cycle Time (tRFC) 278
Command Rate (CR) 2T
Uncore Frequency 3899.1 MHz
Host Bridge 0x0C00

Memory SPD
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DIMM # 1
Size 8192 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC3-10700 (667 MHz)

DIMM # 2
Size 4096 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC3-12800 (800 MHz)

DIMM # 3
Size 8192 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC3-10700 (667 MHz)

DIMM # 4
Size 4096 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC3-12800 (800 MHz)
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Hardware monitor Nuvoton NCT6791D

Hardware monitor NVIDIA NVAPI
Clock Speed 0 139.00 MHz [0x8B] (Graphics)
Clock Speed 1 405.00 MHz [0x195] (Memory)
Clock Speed 2 n.a. (Processor)

Display adapter 0
ID 0x1090306
Name NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
Codename GP106-400
Cores 1280
ROP Units 48
TM Units 80
Technology 16 nm
Memory size 6 GB
Memory type GDDR5
PCI device bus 1 (0x1), device 0 (0x0), function 0 (0x0)
Core clock 139.0 MHz
Memory clock 405.0 MHz

Monitor 0
Model BenQ XL2720T ()
Max Resolution 1920 x 1080 @ 60 Hz
Horizontal Freq. Range 30-140 kHz
Vertical Freq. Range 56-120 Hz
Max Pixel Clock 330 MHz
Gamma Factor 2.2

Monitor 1
Model 27MP34 (LG Electronics (GoldStar))
Max Resolution 1920 x 1080 @ 60 Hz
Horizontal Freq. Range 30-83 kHz
Vertical Freq. Range 56-75 Hz
Max Pixel Clock 150 MHz
Gamma Factor 2.2

Software
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Windows Version Microsoft Windows 10 (10.0) Home 64-bit (Build 19041)
DirectX Version 12.0

 

[LeiHeJun]

@epconrad
I'd say do incremental upgrades so there's also something to do for next Christmas.

This year now, only get ssd and psu. That should make your pc quite a lot faster and prepared for further devices.

Next Christmas upgrade will be cpu, mobo and ddr5 rams.

I say 850w power again. Two reasons: you currently own 600w so why replace with a new one that is only 50w more? Reason 2 : you're breaking it into two Christmases, so get a more powerful one that can take powerful devices for future (or you want to get a new one each time just 50w higher?)

For ssd, @Why_Me suggestion is a slower option. If you choose the hp or Samsung I said it will be 6 times faster than @Why_Me and don't forget you're not buying cpu, mobo, ram this year. So that saves a lot:

NVMe vs. SATA: Which SSD Technology Is Faster?

Which type of solid-state drive should you choose for your PC? Let's talk the pros and cons of NVMe and SATA.

www.howtogeek.com

Besides @Why_Me is downgrading your ram. Just keep the ram you currently have, and upgrade it next Christmas with ddr5.

So you'll be getting 150$ power supply and 130$ SSD. That's it for this year.

 

[Why_Me]

@epconrad
I'd say do incremental upgrades so there's also something to do for next Christmas.

This year now, only get ssd and psu. That should make your pc quite a lot faster and prepared for further devices.

Next Christmas upgrade will be cpu, mobo and ddr5 rams.

I say 850w power again. Two reasons: you currently own 600w so why replace with a new one that is only 50w more? Reason 2 : you're breaking it into two Christmases, so get a more powerful one that can take powerful devices for future (or you want to get a new one each time just 50w higher?)

For ssd, @Why_Me suggestion is a slower option. If you choose the hp or Samsung I said it will be 6 times faster than @Why_Me and don't forget you're not buying cpu, mobo, ram this year. So that saves a lot:

NVMe vs. SATA: Which SSD Technology Is Faster?

Which type of solid-state drive should you choose for your PC? Let's talk the pros and cons of NVMe and SATA.

www.howtogeek.com

Besides @Why_Me is downgrading your ram. Just keep the ram you currently have, and upgrade it next Christmas with ddr5.

So you'll be getting 150$ power supply and 130$ SSD. That's it for this year.

Downgrading his RAM? He's currently running DDR3 unlike the factory OC 3600 MHz DDR4 I posted. I went with the SATA SSD for price and the fact its plenty fast for a gaming build and will run circles around a mechanical HD. As far as the PSU goes I posted that in regards to a build done within this next month .. not next year. That was the entire point of the build I posted on here.

 

[Prad_Bitt]

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Crucial BX500 1TB 3D NAND SATA 2.5-Inch Internal SSD $84.99

Total: $605 (not including rebates)

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GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 3060 Ti $399.99

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@epconrad
I'd say do incremental upgrades so there's also something to do for next Christmas.

This year now, only get ssd and psu. That should make your pc quite a lot faster and prepared for further devices.

Next Christmas upgrade will be cpu, mobo and ddr5 rams.

I say 850w power again. Two reasons: you currently own 600w so why replace with a new one that is only 50w more? Reason 2 : you're breaking it into two Christmases, so get a more powerful one that can take powerful devices for future (or you want to get a new one each time just 50w higher?)

For ssd, @Why_Me suggestion is a slower option. If you choose the hp or Samsung I said it will be 6 times faster than @Why_Me and don't forget you're not buying cpu, mobo, ram this year. So that saves a lot:

NVMe vs. SATA: Which SSD Technology Is Faster?

Which type of solid-state drive should you choose for your PC? Let's talk the pros and cons of NVMe and SATA.

www.howtogeek.com

Besides @Why_Me is downgrading your ram. Just keep the ram you currently have, and upgrade it next Christmas with ddr5.

So you'll be getting 150$ power supply and 130$ SSD. That's it for this year.

Eh. Most likely DDR5 will be super expensive at rhe beginning and will take time to become mainstream.

I'd say PSU SSD now. GPU CPU whenever possible, obviously the RAM and mobo with the cpu (because ryzen stocks vanish within seconds) . I don't think a 11-12 yo kid would be that patient lol. Besides, a year's worth of incremental upgrades while cumulatively spending a whole lot more cash is..... not such a great decision imo, but to each their own

I'd suggest this

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ryxDnL
(The 5600X is $300 MSRP)

This is what I believe is the best, performance/price wise. If you want to save some cash, I'd suggest this

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vrYy8J

Both of these builds are well performing. The top one is more future proof, very slightly. But it has a much powerful CPU, which should easily work another 5 years, probably not the best then, but will meet the minimum specs

You should be able to find a 3060 Ti Founders edition for $400, that's good enough. But I don't think the $480-490 for a custom card like the msi trio is a bad deal, I think it's pretty good actually lol.

If you want, you can add additional fans in the case, cheap ones without rgb for functionality, and better airflow. Reuse the ones that are currently in the case of your grandson's old build. Put them as exhaust as the case I've suggested doesn't come with an exhaust fan, only 3 front intakes which look super pretty

 

[Why_Me]

Eh. Most likely DDR5 will be super expensive at rhe beginning and will take time to become mainstream.

I'd say PSU SSD now. GPU CPU whenever possible, obviously the RAM and mobo with the cpu (because ryzen stocks vanish within seconds) . I don't think a 11-12 yo kid would be that patient lol. Besides, a year's worth of incremental upgrades while cumulatively spending a whole lot more cash is..... not such a great decision imo, but to each their own

I'd suggest this

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ryxDnL
(The 5600X is $300 MSRP)

This is what I believe is the best, performance/price wise. If you want to save some cash, I'd suggest this

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vrYy8J

Both of these builds are well performing. The top one is more future proof, very slightly.

You should be able to find a 3060 Ti Founders edition for $400, that's good enough. But I don't think the $480-490 for a custom card like the msi trio is a bad deal, I think it's pretty good actually lol.

If you want, you can add additional fans in the case, cheap ones without rgb for functionality, and better airflow. Reuse the ones that are currently in the case of your grandson's old build. Put them as exhaust as the case I've suggested doesn't come with an exhaust fan, only 3 front intakes which look super pretty

You people are going nuts with your builds. Especially for a build that doesn't include a gpu. That's an insane amount of money to be spending on a gaming build meant for 1920 x 1080 resolution.

 

[Zerk2012]

You people are going nuts with your builds. Especially for a build that doesn't include a gpu. That's an insane amount of money to be spending on a gaming build meant for 1920 x 1080 resolution.

He plays with Oculus Quest VR and looking to play "The Wizards Dark Times VR" , "Boneworks", and "Asgards Wrath".

That is dual 1440 X 1600

 

[Prad_Bitt]

You people are going nuts with your builds. Especially for a build that doesn't include a gpu. That's an insane amount of money to be spending on a gaming build meant for 1920 x 1080 resolution.

Well it is for VR. It eats low end GPUs for breakfast and mid range 20 series for lunch

 

[LeiHeJun]

@Why_Me
I don't know how you missed the VR, but there are two monitors BenQ and LG.

 

[Why_Me]

@Why_Me
I don't know how you missed the VR, but there are two monitors BenQ and LG.

My bad ... bump up the card to an RTX 3070 and the psu to a 750w.

 

[Prad_Bitt]

My bad ... bump up the card to a 3070 and the psu to a 750.

LOL

 

[Why_Me]

My bad ... bump up the card to an RTX 3070 and the psu to a 750w.

https://www.newegg.com/seasonic-focus-750-gold-ssr-750fm-750w/p/N82E16817151201
Seasonic FOCUS GM-750, 750W 80+ Gold, Semi-Modular $121.00

https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-rtx-3070-rtx-3070-ventus-2x/p/N82E16814137605
MSI GeForce RTX 3070 DirectX 12 RTX 3070 VENTUS $499.99

 

[LeiHeJun]

@Why_Me
650w and 850w are 25$ apart. You're worried of being electrified by more power?

May be one day you can grab a cheap rtx3090 not psu again.

@Prad_Bitt
You're aircooling processor while gentleman already has liquidcooling. Why a new case? Who will see RGB fans behind a headset? Break RAM into two purchases, save some for birthday party.
So again, wait for ddr5, get 16, not enough but has decade of future and price will wane. I prefer 2 large sticks one by one, leave some slots empty for next xmas. You ideas about ddr5 will change after you see Lisa Su on January 12. I can see her smiling holding cookie sized cpu and this guys supports ddr5 yay. (Ok she wouldn't do that this January, but quote "Hey I can dream can't I?")

 

[Prad_Bitt]

@Why_Me
650w and 850w are 25$ apart. You're worried of being electrified by more power?

May be one day you can grab a cheap rtx3090 not psu again.

@Prad_Bitt
You're aircooling processor while gentleman already has liquidcooling. Why a new case? Who will see RGB fans behind a headset? Break RAM into two purchases, save some for birthday party.
So again, wait for ddr5, get 16, not enough but has decade of future and price will wane. I prefer 2 large sticks one by one, leave some slots empty for next xmas. You ideas about ddr5 will change after you see Lisa Su on January 12. I can see her smiling holding cookie sized cpu and this guys supports ddr5 yay. (Ok she wouldn't do that this January, but quote "Hey I can dream can't I?")

Case is pretty unnecessary, I agree. But the aio is pretty old I think. Not long until the pump dies, it probably doesn't support the new cpu socket either

 

[USAFRet]

@Why_Me
650w and 850w are 25$ apart. You're worried of being electrified by more power?

May be one day you can grab a cheap rtx3090 not psu again.

@Prad_Bitt
You're aircooling processor while gentleman already has liquidcooling. Why a new case? Who will see RGB fans behind a headset? Break RAM into two purchases, save some for birthday party.
So again, wait for ddr5, get 16, not enough but has decade of future and price will wane. I prefer 2 large sticks one by one, leave some slots empty for next xmas. You ideas about ddr5 will change after you see Lisa Su on January 12. I can see her smiling holding cookie sized cpu and this guys supports ddr5 yay. (Ok she wouldn't do that this January, but quote "Hey I can dream can't I?")

Reliable DDR5 at a reasonable price, and all the associated parts, is a year away from store shelves.
He wants the kids system this year, not next year.

Wait for the new shiny, and you're waiting forever.

Why not put it off until DDR6 and PCIe 5.0 drives?

 

[LeiHeJun]

Reliable DDR5 at a reasonable price, and all the associated parts, is a year away from store shelves.
He wants the kids system this year, not next year.

Wait for the new shiny, and you're waiting forever.

Why not put it off until DDR6 and PCIe 5.0 drives?

Now last time SSD lived for a century, but you know I wouldn't be waiting for ddr6.

He has 1060, can wait gpu. Has 24gb ram, can wait ddr5.

Kid's system will get faster by SSD a lot.