Question Do I need to upgrade my PC and if so what should I focus on?

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Approximate Purchase Date: Any time over the next few months

Budget Range: 1,000

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming > Movies > googling

Are you buying a monitor: No

Parts to Upgrade:
CPU:
Intel® Core™ i9-10900KF Processor (10X 3.70 GHz /20MB L3 Cache)

RAM: 32 GB [8 GB X4] DDR4-3600 Memory Module - G.SKILL Trident Z (RGB LED)

mobo: MSI MAG Z590 TOMAHAWK WIFI, WiFi 6E, ARGB Header (2), USB 3.2 Ports (1 Type-C, 6 Type-A), M.2 Slot (3)

Re-using:

Processor Cooling
: CORSAIR Hydro Series H115i RGB PLATINUM 280mm Liquid CPU Cooling

Case: be quiet! Dark Base PRO 900 Tempered Glass Gaming Case - Orange with Wireless Charging and LED Lighting

GPU: NVIDIA Founders Edition GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card

Power Supply: 1200 Watt - Thermaltake Toughpower Grand RGB - 80 PLUS Platinum, Full Modula


Do you need to buy OS: No

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Amazon but open to other sites

Location: Chicago, IL

Parts Preferences: Intel, no preference for the motherboard or RAM

Overclocking: I don’t want to mess with overclocking. I always screw things up. Looking for best out of the box.

SLI or Crossfire: No

Your Monitor Resolution: 4K

Additional Comments: I like RGB features

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: I want higher FPS when gaming at 4K. I feel like I am not getting anywhere near the best performance from my 4090. I originally built my pc with a 3080 and a year and a half ago I picked up a 4090 on sale. It was a huge improvement but I still have to spend hours messing around with game settings to get my desired FPS which is 90+ minimum. I see streamers with 4090 getting 90-120 fps where I am only getting 60- 90 FPS with the same game, settings and resolution. Basically I want to check the Max settings boxes(not extreme 10 years out settings) for every game and not have to adjust anything other then raytracing.
 
Wow I did not know these kinds of bundles existed and I didn't know there was a physical store in Chicago. This is exactly the kind of thing I'm looking for.

Which bundle do you recommend? Which one will give me the best performance when it comes high demanding games? I would prefer not to have to upgrade anything for at least two years.
 
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Parts to Upgrade:
CPU:
Intel® Core™ i9-10900KF Processor (10X 3.70 GHz /20MB L3 Cache)
RAM: 32 GB [8 GB X4] DDR4-3600 Memory Module - G.SKILL Trident Z (RGB LED)
Your Monitor Resolution: 4K
And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: I want higher FPS when gaming at 4K. I feel like I am not getting anywhere near the best performance from my 4090.
I see streamers with 4090 getting 90-120 fps where I am only getting 60- 90 FPS with the same game, settings and resolution.
Check if your ram is working at XMP frequencies.
Probably still have it at 2133mhz.

Use CPU-Z. Show screenshots from CPU-Z - memory and spd sections.
(upload to imgur.com and post link)
 
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Wow I did not know these kinds of bundles existed and I didn't know there was a physical store in Chicago. This is exactly the kind of thing I'm looking for.

Which bundle do you recommend? Which one will give me the best performance when it comes high demanding games? I would prefer not to have to upgrade anything for at least two years.

Yea Microcenter is amazing, I am in Southern IL, so I go to the one over near St.Louis, when I can.

Of the available bundles, I would choose this one.

https://www.microcenter.com/product...ies-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-bundle
 
Parts to Upgrade:
CPU:
Intel® Core™ i9-10900KF Processor (10X 3.70 GHz /20MB L3 Cache)

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: I want higher FPS when gaming at 4K. I feel like I am not getting anywhere near the best performance from my 4090.

Yeah... that 10900KF is definitely gimping your experience.

Go with the 7800x3D bundle and you're golden.
 
Yea Microcenter is amazing, I am in Southern IL, so I go to the one over near St.Louis, when I can.

Of the available bundles, I would choose this one.

https://www.microcenter.com/product...ies-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-bundle
I'm really wanting to pull the trigger on this and pick this bundle up this weekend. I was looking at the reviews for this bundle and several buyers were saying the motherboard was bad. When I look at the reviews for the motherboard on it's own, everyone says it's great. Should I be concerned? Or is there a better alternative even if it is more expensive?
 
A lot of people hate on Asus, and for good reason, after Gamer's Nexus exposed their terrible customer service twice in two years. I am not a fan of them myself. Might be good to ask those working there, regarding return rate on those boards. Looking at the Chicago store, only 2 open box boards I would say is a good sign that they are not junk. There was an MSI board that was paired up with the 7800x3d earlier this year that was total trash. My store often had many open box boards from the bundle on a shelf. Sometimes more open box than they had new.

If I were to build now, buying from your store, ignoring the bundle deal, I would choose this.

https://www.microcenter.com/product/660136/asrock-b650e-steel-legend-wifi-amd-am5-atx-motherboard

with this ram

https://www.microcenter.com/product...sktop-memory-kit-flesd532g6000hc30dc01-silver


With a 7800x3d, it is showing $586.10, when adding to cart.
 
A lot of people hate on Asus, and for good reason, after Gamer's Nexus exposed their terrible customer service twice in two years. I am not a fan of them myself. Might be good to ask those working there, regarding return rate on those boards. Looking at the Chicago store, only 2 open box boards I would say is a good sign that they are not junk. There was an MSI board that was paired up with the 7800x3d earlier this year that was total trash. My store often had many open box boards from the bundle on a shelf. Sometimes more open box than they had new.

If I were to build now, buying from your store, ignoring the bundle deal, I would choose this.

https://www.microcenter.com/product/660136/asrock-b650e-steel-legend-wifi-amd-am5-atx-motherboard

with this ram

https://www.microcenter.com/product...sktop-memory-kit-flesd532g6000hc30dc01-silver


With a 7800x3d, it is showing $586.10, when adding to cart.
Personally, I would get a different kit of RAM, especially one on the QVL for the motherboard. Like this kit.
 
A lot of people hate on Asus, and for good reason, after Gamer's Nexus exposed their terrible customer service twice in two years. I am not a fan of them myself. Might be good to ask those working there, regarding return rate on those boards. Looking at the Chicago store, only 2 open box boards I would say is a good sign that they are not junk. There was an MSI board that was paired up with the 7800x3d earlier this year that was total trash. My store often had many open box boards from the bundle on a shelf. Sometimes more open box than they had new.

If I were to build now, buying from your store, ignoring the bundle deal, I would choose this.

https://www.microcenter.com/product/660136/asrock-b650e-steel-legend-wifi-amd-am5-atx-motherboard

with this ram

https://www.microcenter.com/product...sktop-memory-kit-flesd532g6000hc30dc01-silver


With a 7800x3d, it is showing $586.10, when adding to cart.
I ended up going with this. Picked up everything and sat on it for a week procrastinating having to backup everything and rebuild my rig. Fast forward to today and everything is installed and working flawlessly. First game I fired up(Elden Ring) was running at 40 fps higher. Went from 80 - 90 fps to a constant 120fps. I started playing Space Marine 2 tonight. Set everything to max settings without issue. Safe to say I'm very pleased with this build! Thank you for all the help and for making this very easy!