Do I really need fast ram for ryzen?

[Sokrey]

I wanted to ask do I really need fast ram memory for ryzen?
What memory should i choose?
this one https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kkL7YJ/kingston-memory-hx421c14fbk28 or this one
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gnnG3C/corsair-memory-cmk8gx4m1a2400c14

 

[Supahos]

Need? No, but it certainly improves performance s good bit. Both of those kits are slow so between the two of them it doesn't matter.

 

[Sokrey]

Need? No, but it certainly improves performance s good bit. Both of those kits are slow so between the two of them it doesn't matter.

should i get the 2400mhz kit and oc it to 2666mhz?

 

[Supahos]

There's no guarantee the 2400 MHz kit will do 2666 or that the 2133 kit won't do 3000 MHz. As I said it doesn't much matter between the two of them

 

[Sokrey]

There's no guarantee the 2400 MHz kit will do 2666 or that the 2133 kit won't do 3000 MHz. As I said it doesn't much matter between the two of them

Will i be able to get nice gaming performance with one of those ram speeds?

 

[Supahos]

Of either set only runs at rated speeds it'll hurt performance a good bit. Only having 8gb of RAM will hurt too in a lot of cases. Mind posting your entire pcpper list and I'll see if I can get you a better setup?

 

[Sokrey]

Of either set only runs at rated speeds it'll hurt performance a good bit. Only having 8gb of RAM will hurt too in a lot of cases. Mind posting your entire pcpper list and I'll see if I can get you a better setup?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/m6Yrjc

 

[Supahos]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($156.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard ($76.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($121.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($83.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Video Card ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $659.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-19 06:44 EDT-0400


Problems solved. Got you 16gb 3000mhz ram for $50 more than your build and gave up zero performance or quality.

 

[Chugalug_]

I would say you need 3000MHz+, since under that performance is kinda meh, it helps Ryzen a tonne.
Ditch the SSD for performance.
Total budget including RAM?

 

[Lannister in the North]

Yes you do;
From the horses mouth:
https://community.amd.com/community/gaming/blog/2017/07/14/memory-oc-showdown-frequency-vs-memory-timings

Be aware that only a select few models of ram will work with ryzen at their rated speeds out of the box.

I have G.Skill Trident Z's and i have had to do some manual tweaking to the timings (and secondary timings which were only accessible since AGESA 1.0.0.6e) to make them run at their rated speed (3200Mhz) on a ryzen chipset.

 

[cats_Paw]

To original OP, I will counter your question with a question:
Need for what? Are you trying to get the best fps possible in games? If so Intel might be a better choice.

Do you have a 60Hz monitor and no plans to get a 120Hz+ monitor? Then probably not.
Are you going to be streaming games? Then probably not AND you want ryzen.

There are a lot of variables we simply dont know so its hard to even tell you that you need a PC.... (maybe you want to cook eggs on top of your ram... who knows?).

In terms of What ram module to get for Ryzen, its not as simple as it seems. Yes, the official ram sticks for AM4 should do 3200 MHz, but they still default at 2133, and everything else is considered overclocking so its not covered by warranty nor its guaranteed.

I will give you an example of what I did:

I needed 32Gb for Unreal Engine 4 so... I googled and found out Samsung B-Die seemed to OC nicely.
I waited for a new BIOS update, and checked this: http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_ryzen_7_agesa_1006_performance_update_review,1.html

Turns out my memory can 3200MHz, so I will try to do that myself. But there is no guarantee.

Use your motherboards QVL or compatibility list to see exact models that have been tested to work with your ram and to see what speeds they are supported to (OC is another matter entirely).

 

[Sokrey]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from Sokrey : "Would this ram work with Ryzen?"

Would this ram http://www.corsair.com/en-gb/vengeance-lpx-8gb-1x8gb-ddr4-dram-2400mhz-c14-memory-kit-red-cmk8gx4m1a2400c14r work with Ryzen 5 1400 using a MSI B350M GAMING PRO
and would it run at 2400mhz?

 

[Lucky_SLS]

Unless u have a cooler, don't go for 1400. Low stock speed and terrible stock cooler = low overclocking potential. Step up to a 1500x.