[SOLVED] Do you know a good monitor around 560$?

[not you]

Good Day Everyone

Im trying to pick a gaming monitor for around 560$

i will use it alongside a 1920x1080 60hz tn panel 21 inch

the main reason why i would like to buy is because the current has terrible colours so i would prefer something ips with hdr technology
other important factors would be both displayport and hdmi capability and speaker function for my console

also i would like to stick with mainstream resolutions like 1080p or 1440p and if 144hz and g-sync could fit into the price that would be perfect

my gpu is the gtx 1080 ti
i plan on gaming on only one monitor at a time and use the other for wiki youtube or other sidestuff

monitor size is pretty much a non issue i can fit a big one too there is no shortage of space but its not mandatory

the monitor i found that is almost perfect except it has no g-sync is the:
Acer XV272UPbmiiprzx (UM. HX2EE. P01)

the games i would like to use it for are
shadow of war league of legends dishonored xcom stellaris remnant total war warhammer prototype divinity kingmaker pillars of eternity baldurs gate
pretty much mixed system requirements

any help is much appreciated

 

[Aeacus]

Within your budget, matching all your requirements including extras as G-Sync and 144/165 Hz, except HDR, there are few choices;
144 Hz, Acer Predator XB271HU bmiprz, amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Predator-XB271HU-bmiprz-2560x1440/dp/B06ZXZ3QBD
165 Hz, Asus ROG Swift PG279QZ, amazon: https://www.amazon.com/PG279QZ-Ergonomic-G-Sync-Gaming-Monitor/dp/B07HZSBW7V

Slightly out of budget;
165 Hz, Asus ROG SWIFT PG279Q, amazon: https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-PG279Q-DisplayPort-Adjustable-Ergonomic/dp/B017EVR2VM

All above monitors are/have: 27", 1440p, IPS panel, DP port, HDMI port, speakers, Vesa mountible.

This monitor has HDR with VA panel (almost as good as IPS panel) but it doesn't have G-Sync,
144 Hz, AOC Agon AG273QCX, amazon: https://www.amazon.com/AOC-AG273QCX-DisplayHDR-Adjustable-DisplayPort/dp/B07MJCF5N4

 

[not you]

Thank you

but as i live in Hungary i cant order from amazon 🙁
the monitors you showed:
the first cost 770$ here
the second is not available at all
the third cost 840$
the fourt costs about 480$

i dont mind missing g-sync that much since the 10xx and 20xx cards support freesync too xP
but the hdr on both the aoc ag273qcx and the acer xv272 seem to be the sloppy 400 varriant 🙁

can i ask what is your opinion on the ag273qcx vs acer xv272 given that the acer is a bit more expensive but nothing problematic

and do you think it would be worth extending the budget to around 900$ to get a true hdr screen (preferably not 4k but 1440p and g-sync not being a main concern)

 

[Aeacus]

Well, you wrote your budget being 560 $ and $ means Dollar. Either USD, CAD or AUD but when people write $ they usually mean USD. But since you live in Hungary, what you have in use there is Ft or HUF. So, giving wrong info about your currency type leads these kind of conflicts. I gave you info based on the $ sign, implying that you either are in USA or you can buy from Amazon.com, like i can, despite i'm living in Europe.

Tom's Hardware forums are international forums, despite the English language being only language on here. Next time, be honest with your currency/location to avoid such localization and availability issues.

As far as Acer and AOC go, main difference is that Acer is IPS panel while AOC is VA panel monitor. Sure, IPS panel has best color accuracy but it's contrast ratio is poor (1000:1). VA panel, in the other hand, has much better contrast ratio (3000:1), despite the color accuracy being a bit lower than IPS panel has it. But since making IPS panel costs more than same VA panel, IPS panel monitor also costs a bit more.

So, choice is up to you;
Acer - best color accuracy but poor contrast ratio (equal to TN panel), where black isn't black but gray or some form of blue.
AOC - almost perfect color accuracy with the deepest/richest blacks, where black is black.

Acer, specs: https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/model/UM.HX2AA.P03
AOC, specs: https://eu.aoc.com/en/gaming-monitors/ag273qcx/specs

I, personally, am using VA panel monitor since besides casual gaming, i do a lot of photo editing as well and i need high contrast ratio. Monitor i'm using is MSI Optix MAG241CR.

Further reading about contrast ratio: https://www.cnet.com/news/contrast-ratio-or-how-every-tv-manufacturer-lies-to-you/

As far as HDR goes, well, i'm undecided on that one. Does HDR make images better? Yes, on some occasions. But HDR can also ruin the image. Here's a good article about HDR in photography, when to use it and when not,
link: https://www.digitalphotomentor.com/to-hdr-or-not-when-and-if-you-should-use-hdr/

With HDR monitor, HDR is either constantly on or off (if you can toggle it) and it may ruin the natural color accuracy. E.g the K9 comparison in above article is nice example when not to use HDR. HDR is more of a personal preference than solid upgrade (e.g higher refresh rate). My monitor does have HDCR (High Dynamic Contrast Range) but i've turned it off since i don't want contrast to look strange and unnatural.

 

[not you]

Thank you for your answer

sorry about that usually ft doesnt mean much to people so i translate prices to $ so people can understand better xP
i had no intent to mislead quite the opposite x/

i dont think there was any problem thou thoes monitors you listed would have been great candidates and there can always be an obsecure ebay or second hand sale worth grabbing on one of thoes 😉

As i saw most va monitors (maybe even all of them) have 1:3000 and ips monitors that i saw always had 1:1000
is this a common theme between ips and va or is this ips a "lower quality" one

i have never actually seen a monitor above standard 60hz im not sure if ill like it or if it ll be an upgrade for me but im very curious about it xP

 

[Aeacus]

Just because IPS panel has contrast ratio max 1000:1 doesn't make it "lower quality". It's all about the design of the panel and what it's capable of. For example: no VA or IPS panels can do more than 165 Hz at current date. Only TN panel monitors can do 200-240 Hz. Does it make VA and IPS panels "lower quality"? No, it does not.

1st, there was TN panel (actually, CRT was long before that but no need to go back that far). While TN panel has best performance, it lacks on image quality and viewing angles. So, the IPS panel was created which basically is opposite of TN panel. Great color accuracy and viewing angles but poor performance. As time moved forwards, VA panel was created to take the best of both worlds (TN and IPS) and combine them. Sure, VA panels don't have perfect color accuracy nor best performance but they are in the middle of the two worlds. VA panels are like Jack of all trades but master of none.

 

[not you]

Thank you
the help and info you gave helped me greatly