Hey guys I really wanna buy a 3080 but I’m seeing mixed emotions online bout the 3080 being paired with a 3600 what’s your guys thoughts I’m looking to play cod mainly and streaming
You don't need PCIE 4.0 for a faster GPU like an RTX 3080. Right now not many product can take advantage of PCIE 4.0 and most end users have no need for PCIE 4.0 except in certain situations, like if you want to use both an M.2 NVMe SSD and add-on PCIE cards like a video capture card. When you install an M.2 NVMe SSD on your B450 motherboard, all of the PCIE x1 and x16 slots, except for the top x16 slot for your GPU, will be disabled and all that bandwidth is used by the NVMe SSD. You would need an X570 or B550 motherboard with PCIE 4.0...The thing is tho since I have a b450 I don't have PCIe gen 4 support meaning in the future ill need a new mobo Right? if not ill honestly just ditch the whole new GPU idea and just cop a new CPU
Honestly if that is the only reason, you are better off spending less money for a lower end card that will use far less power like an RTX 3060 TI or RX 6000 equivalent for half the cost of an RTX 3080 since you are only playing at 1080p. Buy a new mid-high end card with enough GPU performance for what you want to do for the next 3-4 years instead of a single expensive power guzzling card like the RTX 3080 that you can only really use 50% of it's total performance at 1080p. In 3-4 years you can spend about the same amount for another mid-high end card that will be as fast as or faster than the RTX 3080. GPU upgrades are far less disruptive than a full motherboard and CPU swap like you were sugesting with Ryzen 6000.You have a point but I don’t want to have to upgrade for a long while that’s why
Understandable. I get some folks 'wanting to have the best', 'owning something top of the line', or 'just wanting to treat themselves'.You have a point but I don’t want to have to upgrade for a long while that’s why
A popular want, or belief - depending on POV... on the contrary, it often doesn't work out like that.I just wanna buy a gpu and vice for like 4 years even possibly 5 to 6
ItI’m kinda stupid but your saying even tho I plan on upgrading my cpu witching the next like 6 months I still shouldn’t do it because If not mistaken A bottleneck is when a CPU is being used anywhere from 70% to 100% and the GPU only 50 to 70% so if my CPU isn’t being maxed out where is the bottleneck?
A typo, but I know what you meant.So your suggesting that I don’t get a new cpu but to get a new cpu
Erase the futureproofing concept from your memory, because things just don't work out that way.I mean I just don’t want to invest money on a cpu when if I were to ever have to upgrade I will never have a upgrade path so I was going to just wait for ryzen 6000 and get a new motherboard with it to future proof the new socket
You don't need PCIE 4.0 for a faster GPU like an RTX 3080. Right now not many product can take advantage of PCIE 4.0 and most end users have no need for PCIE 4.0 except in certain situations, like if you want to use both an M.2 NVMe SSD and add-on PCIE cards like a video capture card. When you install an M.2 NVMe SSD on your B450 motherboard, all of the PCIE x1 and x16 slots, except for the top x16 slot for your GPU, will be disabled and all that bandwidth is used by the NVMe SSD. You would need an X570 or B550 motherboard with PCIE 4.0 to avoid losing PCIE slots when installing an M.2 NVMe SSD and any other add-on cards that are not using top PCIE x16 slot.The thing is tho since I have a b450 I don't have PCIe gen 4 support meaning in the future ill need a new mobo Right? if not ill honestly just ditch the whole new GPU idea and just cop a new CPU
You don't need PCIE 4.0 for a faster GPU like an RTX 3080. Right now not many product can take advantage of PCIE 4.0 and most end users have no need for PCIE 4.0 except in certain situations, like if you want to use both an M.2 NVMe SSD and add-on PCIE cards like a video capture card. When you install an M.2 NVMe SSD on your B450 motherboard, all of the PCIE x1 and x16 slots, except for the top x16 slot for your GPU, will be disabled and all that bandwidth is used by the NVMe SSD. You would need an X570 or B550 motherboard with PCIE 4.0 to avoid losing PCIE slots when installing an M.2 NVMe SSD and any other add-on cards that are not using top PCIE x16 slot.
It seems like you are rushing to upgrade without knowing what you need or why you think you need it, other than trying to get higher fps. If you think you will need both an NVMe SSD and add-on cards, your best option would be to upgrade the motherboard when you get the CPU. Otherwise if you just want to upgrade the CPU to Ryzen 5000, hold on and wait for the bios update to be released for your B450 motherboard and see if anyone has issues. If you still want to upgrade the GPU, wait a couple month or more when there is more stock of both Nvidia and AMD cards and prices are more stable.
That may be for your board, but not all the B350 and 450 boards have that option. I actually had a look at the manual for the OPs B450 Tomahawk, which what I meant when I said "your motherboard", but it looks I had actually been looking at the wrong motherboard manual on my hard drive (was for my MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC) when I said that, because the Tomahawk has only a single M.2 slot that disables two SATA ports. Dual M.2 motherboards actually do disable PCIE slots to use those PCIE lanes for the NVMe drives. The MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC is one of those boards with dual M.2. I'm going to be upgrading to an X570 when I get my Ryzen 7 5800X, because of these issues.Thats not actually true, I have a B350 board with an sx8200 pro and it only disables a single 4 x pci express slot.
Everything else remains useable on the board.
Thx lol I think at the end of the day I’m over thinking all of this stuff
You're chatting(?) it up with a bunch of strangers on the other side of a screen, all with different views and opinions.Thx lol I think at the end of the day I’m over thinking all of this stuff
I, at least, think you should wait.
Also, perhaps start giving new products a few months 'grace period'. Let all the impatient ones do the 'beta testing'.
Early adopter problems happen without fail. Look at what happened with the Series X/S and PS5: storage and disc drive failures are a couple of them. Plus, with the shortages, folks with defective units are boned.
Keep waiting. You can't buy an RTX 3080 or RX 6800 XT yet anyway. Everything is out of stock everywhere and will probably be out of stock for months as people buy up whatever becomes available.well currently there is alot of benchmarks out and I'm seeing some different numbers some vids show 6800xt some show 3080 based off the fact that I stream whats the move in your guys opinions ?