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After reading through what you wrote I do not have that high a power of
parsing what they say. I assume unsupported means "un-worked on." If you
see a distinction there that's a new one on me and I refuse to go down that
road unless Microsoft says the two are different. But I can tell you Donald
I have spoken with Microsoft many times and unsupported means not currently
being "worked on." If it were true as you think. than IMHO Microsoft should
make the distinction for in my book the two are synonymous.
--
George Hester
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"Donald McDaniel" <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 9 Sep 2005 16:29:47 -0400, "George Hester"
> <hesterloli@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >"ONE documented example that they are lying to the public when they say
they
> >are working on something...."
> >
> >Would you prefer I give you any 'ole example of a lie. You are not
> >listening. I did not say Microsoft "lied" about anything what I said
here
> >is that unsupported means no more work on the software which is
unsupported.
> >I can provide much documentation that says that. By why should I that is
> >easily arrived at? As for a lie well since I never said anything about a
> >lie but about "unsuppoprted." I really do not see your point. Finally
if I
> >said, "lie" well No. You first.
>
> Let me quote you from a previous post in this thread:
> (From one of your replies to me on Sept 6, 2005, at 1:09 PM)
> "You are wrong. If Microsoft says they are working on the issue you
> can bet your bottom dollar it has been forgotten. Would you like to
> see a Knowledge Base article that discusses an issue in MS-DOS or in
> Internet Information Services 2.0 or Windows NT 3.51 that says the
> exact same thing? No you wouldn't because you think I am making it
> all up. Well so you say."
>
> This surely looks to me as if you are making a BLANKET statement that
> "if Microsoft says they are working on the issue you can bet your
> bottom dollar it has been forgotten." Since you do not modify your
> statement to only characterize unsupported products, I can only take
> you at your own words.
>
> As I said in my last post, it is only common sense that if an article
> was entered into the Knowledge Base before a product was declared
> "Unsupported", and it is no longer supported, it goes without saying
> that they probably stopped working on that issue. Although we don't
> really know that they have truly stopped working on even a product
> which is no longer supported, since we could only know that if
> Microsoft themselves said that the issue was no longer being worked
> on.
>
> Also, many older issues are continuing to be worked on in the newer
> product lines, because the issues are ones which are universal to
> versions of one or more of Microsoft's software products.
>
> Again, you cannot say with any authority that "if Microsoft says they
> are working on the issue, they are lying.", since you are not privy to
> what goes on in the Microsoft software labs. In addition, such a
> statement can easily fit the legal definition of "slander", since you
> have made this statement in a public forum with the intention of
> causing harm to Microsoft's reputation.
>
> If Microsoft wanted to, they could bring you before a court of law,
> and take everything you have if they won the case.
>
> I seriously doubt that Microsoft will do that, since you really do
> very little harm with your baseless accusations, other than rile up a
> few Microsoft bashers and other weak-minded users. However, you are
> spreading "FUD" among new and marginal users, and users with little or
> no knowledge of computers and software. This is never good. Instead,
> you should be giving them accurate knowledge, so they can come
> up-to-speed on XP, and properly maintain their installations.
>
After reading through what you wrote I do not have that high a power of
parsing what they say. I assume unsupported means "un-worked on." If you
see a distinction there that's a new one on me and I refuse to go down that
road unless Microsoft says the two are different. But I can tell you Donald
I have spoken with Microsoft many times and unsupported means not currently
being "worked on." If it were true as you think. than IMHO Microsoft should
make the distinction for in my book the two are synonymous.
--
George Hester
_________________________________
"Donald McDaniel" <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:glt3i1hvo9q710djg1r0506aq6u27b5a5k@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 9 Sep 2005 16:29:47 -0400, "George Hester"
> <hesterloli@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >"ONE documented example that they are lying to the public when they say
they
> >are working on something...."
> >
> >Would you prefer I give you any 'ole example of a lie. You are not
> >listening. I did not say Microsoft "lied" about anything what I said
here
> >is that unsupported means no more work on the software which is
unsupported.
> >I can provide much documentation that says that. By why should I that is
> >easily arrived at? As for a lie well since I never said anything about a
> >lie but about "unsuppoprted." I really do not see your point. Finally
if I
> >said, "lie" well No. You first.
>
> Let me quote you from a previous post in this thread:
> (From one of your replies to me on Sept 6, 2005, at 1:09 PM)
> "You are wrong. If Microsoft says they are working on the issue you
> can bet your bottom dollar it has been forgotten. Would you like to
> see a Knowledge Base article that discusses an issue in MS-DOS or in
> Internet Information Services 2.0 or Windows NT 3.51 that says the
> exact same thing? No you wouldn't because you think I am making it
> all up. Well so you say."
>
> This surely looks to me as if you are making a BLANKET statement that
> "if Microsoft says they are working on the issue you can bet your
> bottom dollar it has been forgotten." Since you do not modify your
> statement to only characterize unsupported products, I can only take
> you at your own words.
>
> As I said in my last post, it is only common sense that if an article
> was entered into the Knowledge Base before a product was declared
> "Unsupported", and it is no longer supported, it goes without saying
> that they probably stopped working on that issue. Although we don't
> really know that they have truly stopped working on even a product
> which is no longer supported, since we could only know that if
> Microsoft themselves said that the issue was no longer being worked
> on.
>
> Also, many older issues are continuing to be worked on in the newer
> product lines, because the issues are ones which are universal to
> versions of one or more of Microsoft's software products.
>
> Again, you cannot say with any authority that "if Microsoft says they
> are working on the issue, they are lying.", since you are not privy to
> what goes on in the Microsoft software labs. In addition, such a
> statement can easily fit the legal definition of "slander", since you
> have made this statement in a public forum with the intention of
> causing harm to Microsoft's reputation.
>
> If Microsoft wanted to, they could bring you before a court of law,
> and take everything you have if they won the case.
>
> I seriously doubt that Microsoft will do that, since you really do
> very little harm with your baseless accusations, other than rile up a
> few Microsoft bashers and other weak-minded users. However, you are
> spreading "FUD" among new and marginal users, and users with little or
> no knowledge of computers and software. This is never good. Instead,
> you should be giving them accurate knowledge, so they can come
> up-to-speed on XP, and properly maintain their installations.
>
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